I am kinda partial to Ambuldog's house myself because it is pretty central to everyone, and it is close to the poconos, and he has a knowledge of the good roads. I was figuring a one day thing myself, Buldog offered up his house for the few that need to stay the night. I am sure we can get some pick up points worked into the mix for late commers. Once we get the starting point worked out I will touch base with the closetest person to there area and try to get a actual map worked out for a ride, if that's what everyone wants. Basically the logistics are not figured out yet. Just trying to figure out were to start.