Obama finally did it!
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Their is one other point I would like to expand on a little bit. The leaders that wrote the documents that became the guiding philosophy for our nation did it because we are born to be free.
We inheritly know that collectively speaking. Most of us as kids before the video age simply want to go outside and play weather permitting. I know, its a very simple example... even so...
I believe it compares to riding our Busa's... we want to get out and be free! Those leaders ( Jefferson, Washington, Franklin, Hancock, and others ) were well aware of degrading treatment tyrants like
King George of England were capable of.
From that point ( 7-4-1776 ) the plan was not only to preserve what had been created, but to improve the conditions upon which our "social contract" or path, between the government and the people
would take. Many people consider America the greatest nation to ever evolve on this planet.
It started with documents that were designed to preserve the rights of man and keep government in check.
One thing for sure, it really got off to a good start with 2 oceans acting as a buffer against foreign invasion.
Their is nothing like fighting on your home turf and having all your big guns in position if the enemy come knocking. (the concrete gun bunkers still sit north of the Golden Gate overlooking the Pacific )
How do we know that the home turf advantage was true?
Nobody, no country, ever tried a foreign invasion ( boots on the ground ) in over a 100 years during the modern age of warfare as it has evolved to deadly levels never seen in centuries past.
Yes, we had 9-11, we had barracks attacked on foreign soil and the USS Cole and other attacks. That is nothing compared to Germany and Japan during WW2 and the beating they took that
decided those wars. Think Dresden Germany in 44 & 45... look at those pictures sometime and see how those people lived and died.
So, has Obama finally done it? Only time will tell if what has happened can be undone in the future. We are not doing well as a country as compared to what we could be doing.
We always have enough money for war and rebuilding other countries, and yet, we have a crumbling infrastructure in dire need of repairs right here right now. Just in LA... 400 miles of waterline over 58
years old that need replacing... 5400 leaks last year alone and some were mains that cost big bucks to fix and their no plans to replace the water system needing replacement.
Govenor Brown wants a bullet train from LA to SF?
We have wounded and debilitated solderiers here commiting suicide at the rate of + or -22 a day.
We have lots of things that need to be fixed and yet we have political wrangling that reminds me that old cliche... "Rome is burning".
Plenty of good and great technical advances are showing up frequently. The question I have is... will we save ourselves while we still can with technology?
Our path as a world is unsustainable in my opinion. Its not because we can't endure, its because were not changing our habits rapidly enough to sustain resources until we become more efficient with
how we manage our natural resources. The earth is finite, if depleted to fast it cannot recover without a major population drop... like in the billions... and water is the key.
ok... ramble off...
And this is all Obama's fault? Congress has blocked infrastructure investment, greenhouse gas legislation, etc.? I'm not sure I follow your point?
Arch, have you been paying attention? Congress never blocked anything in the first two years with the democrats in charge of all three branches of government. And exactly what did that get you and me as tax payers? An 800 billion dollar stimulus package that was suppose to go towards "Shovel Ready" jobs that didn't exist. Yes, a job creator. As it turned out there were no shovel ready jobs and the money was squandered on things like Solyndra Solar Power whom was given $535 million dollars then promptly filed bankruptcy and the tax payer's money was gone. Then we learned that a key player in the Solyndra scandal was a major bundler for Obama. Imagine that?
Are you aware that since the Rebublicans took over the House they have sent almost 400 bills over to the senate that addressed everything from the economy to immigration with the affordable health care bill mixed in? Arch, since you mentioned the congress blocking everything, how many of those bills did your "BEST" president ever's front man "Harry Reid" bring to the floor of the Senate for a vote? Why Archie, you are correct, not one. Not a single Republican bill was or will ever be voted on in the Senate as long as "Dirty Harry" is in charge. Thank goodness, that's about to change!
A quick question for you, Arch: "How many times has the president used his veto pen in the past six years"?
Our President either lies or changes his mind more often that Al Sharpton changes his underwear. It's no surprise that the Republicans along with some democrats in Congress as well as most of America don't trust the president. Did Chris Matthews share with you that the reason the Republicans would not pass the Senate Bill on immigrations was because the President refuses to close the border?
By the way Arch, I'm not a Republican, I'm one of those swing voters that every politician want's to influence. I voted for your "Best" president ever the first time around so don't accuse me of being prejudice. I was fooled once.
Arch, have you been paying attention? Congress never blocked anything in the first two years with the democrats in charge of all three branches of government. And exactly what did that get you and me as tax payers? An 800 billion dollar stimulus package that was suppose to go towards "Shovel Ready" jobs that didn't exist. Yes, a job creator. As it turned out there were no shovel ready jobs and the money was squandered on things like Solyndra Solar Power whom was given $535 million dollars then promptly filed bankruptcy and the tax payer's money was gone. Then we learned that a key player in the Solyndra scandal was a major bundler for Obama. Imagine that?
Are you aware that since the Rebublicans took over the House they have sent almost 400 bills over to the senate that addressed everything from the economy to immigration with the affordable health care bill mixed in? Arch, since you mentioned the congress blocking everything, how many of those bills did your "BEST" president ever's front man "Harry Reid" bring to the floor of the Senate for a vote? Why Archie, you are correct, not one. Not a single Republican bill was or will ever be voted on in the Senate as long as "Dirty Harry" is in charge. Thank goodness, that's about to change!
A quick question for you, Arch: "How many times has the president used his veto pen in the past six years"?
Our President either lies or changes his mind more often that Al Sharpton changes his underwear. It's no surprise that the Republicans along with some democrats in Congress as well as most of America don't trust the president. Did Chris Matthews share with you that the reason the Republicans would not pass the Senate Bill on immigrations was because the President refuses to close the border?
By the way Arch, I'm not a Republican, I'm one of those swing voters that every politician want's to influence. I voted for your "Best" president ever the first time around so don't accuse me of being prejudice. I was fooled once.
Obama has vetoed less than most presidents - goggle it. Now how do you know how often Al Sharpton changes his underwear?
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My point is simply my opinion as I stand back and look at what has happened with this country. I throw in a few anecdotal situations to make a few points.
I would say at this point in time we have many people that are not only awake to what is happening, but have little trust and faith in big government starting with Obama.
I believe IG has a solution worth pursuing. We know this system is broken based on the results were getting with those that are in charge.
If our political system cleaned up its act our country would prosper once again and lead the world as it once did.
A country that has free and independent people will always out perform a socialist of communistic style of government.
I would say at this point in time we have many people that are not only awake to what is happening, but have little trust and faith in big government starting with Obama.
I believe IG has a solution worth pursuing. We know this system is broken based on the results were getting with those that are in charge.
If our political system cleaned up its act our country would prosper once again and lead the world as it once did.
A country that has free and independent people will always out perform a socialist of communistic style of government.
Hey Arch, I took your advise and googled "Al Sharpton Under britches" and found the answer! Big Al changes his skivvies when the hash marks reach the belt line!
Happy Thanksgiving!
Now why on earth would a young black male want to work when he can get everything for free either from the govt or the next riot? POTUS didn't turn his back on anyone. He took care of them years ago.
IG.
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All this and YOUR still STUCK in NEW YORK CITYand the Captain lives here TOO
Not NYC since about 7 years ago - suburbs, i.e. Long Island. It is really hard to make a significant move once settled - work, relatives, etc. I honestly hate to get anywhere close to NYC and its 5 boroughs. It's the crowds - like a zoo, and I hate crowds.
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