Have you ever considered suicide?

Rev that is true. I feel it's a selfish way out when you are leaving family and especially children behind. I do feel terribly sorry for those that feel it's their only option. My prayers are for his family right now.
 
My feel for you too Rev. I agree, that is the part of the job that sucks the most.
 
To all of you guys that have noted recently considering it I said it before I can only try to imagine the amount of stress it must require to consider this as a last resort. It's a tough world we live in and sometimes it does feel like your at your end but there is always hope. Usually at the last minute and second when you think your done it turns around. This is a test of life please don't fail this test, whatever it is talk about it if you need to talk to the others you have met here under your new name if that make you more comfortable. There is a real good chance someone here has ben thee and can give you maybe a diffrent perspective to look at.

I've personally been down and out homeless, living in a jeep wrangler (that did not run well) with no place to go, my girl left me (more like removed me from the house) and took my daughter. This happened a long time ago when I was younger and dumber. I thought the world was going to end what else was there I could do ? Nonetheless it turned out I had a friend or two, real friends who helped where they could till I could get my stuff together. Here I am now and glad I survived I hope you guys want to as well.
 
rev i have great respect and gratitude for what you do. truly amazing stregnth to do what you did and you did the right thing

i have only thought about it when i hear or read something like this. very sad and it leaves the friends and fam hurting.

if anyone ever thinks about ending their own life please talk to someone about it
 
I was at my absolute gut wrenching lowest 3.5yrs ago when I was forced to break off an engagement(first ever) to a woman who'm I thought loved me......quite a long thread about on here somewheres......I stared at my guns quite a bit and on my long drives to work, thought about just veerin over in front of a semi but I didn't want to believe that it had come to an end for me. I still don't believe that even at my lowest but it still crosses my mind when I hit a super low.
Despite that, I know that someday I'll find love again, god willing have some kids & be a good husband. Thats the only real goal I have in life is to be a dad.... Someday it'll happen. After 3.5yrs of bein single i'd say imve got enough chips saved up lol


*OPEN INVITE* To all those who need smeone to tak to, I have definitely been where u are
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When a person is hurting so badly they feel there is no other way to stop the pain. Has nothing to to do with chickens.
 
Someone very close to me used to believe, as some here do, that suicide is a weak act. He never cared if someone ended their life, and he held a lot of resentment for what they did...I used to argue with him about how low someone must feel in life to actually consider that as a viable way to end their pain. A few in my family cope with severe depression and I used to find *that* a pathetic excuse until it hit me out of no where, and for no particular reason. I found that oftentimes, depression creeps in due to chemical imbalances, and the places your brain takes you are horrifying. I recall very vividly, being pregnant and wishing I had the nerve to end my life. I can't explain how that felt, to be that out of control of your emotions and thoughts, so I became aware of how those that do go through with suicide might feel. It has to be the most desolate place...

The point of my story is that after years of seeing how my close friend reacted to suicide, his complete apathy for those that did it, I watched HIM face it, and I can tell you, he suddenly saw how your mind can really mess you up and how quickly we reach limits. For him to contemplate it was unbelievable to me, but I think he was finally faced with crisis in his life that he feared he would not overcome. I hope those that feel it's a weakness never hit that place; I am a firm believer that no one asks for or looks for that place, or that suicide is the solution to "fix" it. No one wants that, but some get there and can't find their way back.
 
well like redkat said if anyone needs to talk under a guise especially let someone here know we still have that chat room thing if you want to stay under the radar
 
To me suicide is a cowards way out.
You inflict all the pain and suffering on those you leave behind.
That is what makes it cowardly.
JMO
 
I am a firm believer that no one asks for or looks for that place, or that suicide is the solution to "fix" it. No one wants that, but some get there and can't find their way back.

This is so true, Unless you have been there you can never know what it is like. For those that read my post about my lady and i a few weeks back will know what i am talking about. For the past 3 years we had built a life together and she then told me it was over and ask me to leave. It seemed all of our friends took her side and None of them ever called to check on me. That was the toughest part. (Feeling so alone) For me this has been the lowest point of my life!! We had a beautiful home 3 dogs that i adore and all of the things i have built up over the past 3 years. Now i am having to sell everything to get the money to move and start all over again. Just looking for a place to live is a struggle anymore because i felt i had nothing to take their. I mean not even a chair too sit in or a bed to lay my head in. Well tonight she tells me she is going to give me the love seat and chair down stairs the bed that i now sleep in and things to help get me started again. I don't know but maybe it is Gods way of looking out for me or maybe its being able to talk about it on here but i really feel like i have something to look forward to again. Either way i am glad to have the thoughts out of my head:banghead: and just pray they don't come back anytime soon. No matter how bad it gets if you can hold on long enough i am sure it will all work out in the end. If anyone, i mean anyone needs to talk about things please feel free to call me 434 401 3212. Off and on for the past 5 years I have been to the lowest you can get and know what it feels like. It is always nice to have a friend to listen who knows what you might be going through. Someone will listen if you talk. Doug
 
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I thought along the same lines when I was young because I heard older people (who we assume are wiser) label suicides as crazy people.
I have seen many people and situations that made me have to rethink my intolerance.
for example:
a person terminally ill will financially bankrupt there family decides to take their life.
or a person who has seen their entire family killed and they have no one left, no family no friends.
or an elderly person, no family left alive, no friends alive, left in the street with no food, no shelter, nothing.
some one living in pain with each breath they take, until you have been there, try a little sympathy.
Why are some people so above others they judge.
Most suicides are not "crazy" people. They cannot find a way out, or there is no way out.
I hope none of us here sink to such a bad place. No one is completely immune.
I have experienced physical pain so great only morphine helped. They cut you off and you have to fight through the pain. Some people do not have enough fight in them or the end result of the fight leaves them with no prize for victory and there fore no reason to fight in the first place.
I think it takes a lot of ............ to decide to take your own life. I don't believe in it but I try to understand it. I have seen it first hand, it is very sad and even though I did not know these people, I wondered if there was any way to help them, if only we could turn back the clock.
 
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Thought about it more than once.

Some people keep their negative feelings inside don't let them out, don't share with them with their families an friends, and have problems an keep those things to themselves also determined to work it out themselves, not even willing to talk about them with their families an friends or even ask for help or even advice on how to work things out, these people are high risk, guess it's just the way we wired always been like this. Not sure if thats the case when this lost soul but my condolences to family an sorry about what you have to go through on the job, that s a tough message to have to deliver.
 
"Cowards way out" and all the other comments are way off base. As others have said, until you have walked in those shoes you have no idea what it feels like to be that low. Just like people who say that they would do this or that if someone stuck a gun in there face or threatened them with a gun. Talk all you want and say what you will, but until you have been in that position you really have no idea what you will or won't do. Combat is the same way.

I have attempted it twice. Once very close to achieving my goal. I have had thoughts other times. I have lost 9 family members and friends to suicide in the last 20 years. I do not hate them for it, I am not mad at them for it. Yes I hurt and wish they would not have done it. I am also glad that I was never able to achieve my goal. It sucks being that low. When you have hit that low or bottom as people say, there is nothing that matters in your life and nothing to lose.
So before you call someone a coward, chicken or selfish. Stop and think about how they feel and what they are going through. Remember if you have not been there DO NOT JUDGE. not everyone is super human. How many people can be put in for the medal of honor 3 times, recieve 8 purple hearts, be wounded like 19 times in 54 months do 5 tours of duty in Vietnam and be the most decorated soldier in history, be on the government payroll for 50+ years and live to see 70? Not many in my book. So again everyone has different breaking points.

Rev, you are a great person with the highest standards. I pray for you my friend during this difficult time. I can only guess how much stress this has put on you this time of year. It is not just this mans family that suffers, but also the people who have to respond to the incident and then like Rev have to notify the family. You are in my prayers. You continue to give of yourself and for that you are a good person.
I hope you have a Merry Christmas.
 
I feel its your life to take if you choose. BUT, a person that considers this option is ill and needs help. It seems to hurt the family and friends of the "victim" more than anything. If you dont wanna be here, thats your choice, but the hurt you cause loved ones is terrible. So no, dont kill yourself, seek help. I know, it seems like im on both sides, its a catch 22 in my mind.
 
I feel its your life to take if you choose. BUT, a person that considers this option is ill and needs help. It seems to hurt the family and friends of the "victim" more than anything. If you dont wanna be here, thats your choice, but the hurt you cause loved ones is terrible. So no, dont kill yourself, seek help. I know, it seems like im on both sides, its a catch 22 in my mind.

for this topic you have to be on both sides Like several others have noted you can't really know how it is or why. I have an idea as to what it must be like but that's just it it's an idea. I cannot completely relate because I haven't been there like others have.
 
Thought seriously about it on a few occasions, came very close twice. Chose not to. Things mount up and the feeling of hopelessness becomes overwhelming.
As said in other posts, if anyone needs to talk, I have been there.
 
And Rev, you are a good man for being able to do notifications. I have done it defore and it takes its toll on the deliverer also. Thank you.
 
This is so true, Unless you have been there you can never know what it is like. For those that read my post about my lady and i a few weeks back will know what i am talking about. For the past 3 years we had built a life together and she then told me it was over and ask me to leave. It seemed all of our friends took her side and None of them ever called to check on me. That was the toughest part. (Feeling so alone) For me this has been the lowest point of my life!! We had a beautiful home 3 dogs that i adore and all of the things i have built up over the past 3 years. Now i am having to sell everything to get the money to move and start all over again. Just looking for a place to live is a struggle anymore because i felt i had nothing to take their. I mean not even a chair too sit in or a bed to lay my head in. Well tonight she tells me she is going to give me the love seat and chair down stairs the bed that i now sleep in and things to help get me started again. I don't know but maybe it is Gods way of looking out for me or maybe its being able to talk about it on here but i really feel like i have something to look forward to again. Either way i am glad to have the thoughts out of my head:banghead: and just pray they don't come back anytime soon. No matter how bad it gets if you can hold on long enough i am sure it will all work out in the end. If anyone, i mean anyone needs to talk about things please feel free to call me 434 401 3212. Off and on for the past 5 years I have been to the lowest you can get and know what it feels like. It is always nice to have a friend to listen who knows what you might be going through. Someone will listen if you talk. Doug

I'm glad you're in a better place. Sometimes it takes all you have to get through the times when you would rather just not be around anymore to hurt. Same goes for you...when things get tough, you know you have friends here to lean on. This thread sorts out who to turn to vs who might not really care :) Glad to see so many DO know what this feels like and how hard it all can be to work through...

Everyone's entitled to their opinions; I'm thankful most don't find this a "chicken's way out", but as I stated above, I completely understand how somoene does view it that way, until it does hit them... :please:
 
I feel its your life to take if you choose. BUT, a person that considers this option is ill and needs help. It seems to hurt the family and friends of the "victim" more than anything. If you dont wanna be here, thats your choice, but the hurt you cause loved ones is terrible. So no, dont kill yourself, seek help. I know, it seems like im on both sides, its a catch 22 in my mind.

That is very true...I think in the end, when you lose someone to suicide, it's those he/she left behind that suffer the most. Goes back to just not understanding how one gets to that point in their lives. Outsiders can see all the wonderful things going for someone, yet that person suffering with severe depression or that fear that feeds their thoughts can't see any of it, no matter how much you try to show it to them. I think family and friends are left always wondering why, how could they have helped, why couldn't they get through to their loved one...trust me, those that do take their lives can't see all the hurt they'll leave behind. They are in such a dark place, they can't see anything beyond their own pain and just want to stop that pain.

This is a tough time too...more suicides around the holidays than any other time. Anyone here that needs help, please lean on family here...we all would go to great lengths to help one another through :please:
 
I thought along the same lines when I was young because I heard older people (who we assume are wiser) label suicides as crazy people.
I have seen many people and situations that made me have to rethink my intolerance.
for example:
a person terminally ill will financially bankrupt there family decides to take their life.
or a person who has seen their entire family killed and they have no one left, no family no friends.
or an elderly person, no family left alive, no friends alive, left in the street with no food, no shelter, nothing.
some one living in pain with each breath they take, until you have been there, try a little sympathy.
Why are some people so above others they judge.
Most suicides are not "crazy" people. They cannot find a way out, or there is no way out.
I hope none of us here sink to such a bad place. No one is completely immune.
I have experienced physical pain so great only morphine helped. They cut you off and you have to fight through the pain. Some people do not have enough fight in them or the end result of the fight leaves them with no prize for victory and there fore no reason to fight in the first place.
I think it takes a lot of ............ to decide to take your own life. I don't believe in it but I try to understand it. I have seen it first hand, it is very sad and even though I did not know these people, I wondered if there was any way to help them, if only we could turn back the clock.

Well said....
 
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