Diesel / Blue Def is in trouble

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Diesel Peeps:

Do you know what DEF fluid is? It's Diesel Exhaust Fluid. Every Diesel truck that has been made since 2010 is required to use it. It's a product made of 32.5 percent urea and 67.5 percent deionized water. Every newer diesel truck you see driving down the road today has to have this product to drive (by law). DEF is sprayed into the exhaust stream by an advanced injection system and then converted into ammonia on a catalyst. The ammonia breaks down dangerous NOx emissions produced by diesel engines into nitrogen and water.. That's the purpose of DEF.

Right now, Russia is the largest exporter of Urea by a wide margin. Qatar is second. Egypt and China are Tied for 3rd. Both Russia and China have decided to no longer export Urea. On top of that, India is the largest manufacturer of Urea in the world even though they consume most of what they make. What little they would export..........they no longer do. They are now stopping the exportation of any and all Urea minus a deal they just cut with Sri Lanka.

What does this mean for you and me? Well, first, the United States imports most of it's Urea fertilizer. We are the third largest importer in the entire world. We depend on other countries to eat, drive and ship our products.

Secondly... Flying J is the largest Service provider for Truckers around the Unites States. I'm sure you've seen their massive gas stations when traveling around the country. Flying J gets 70% of their DEF fluid from shipments via Union Pacific railroad. UP has single user access to the Fertilizer plants that Urea/DEF fluid comes from. No other rail provider has access to these distribution points. This means Flying J can't just go around Union Pacific. Union Pacific is in charge....for a reason I'm gonna mention in a few paragraphs.

Flying J provides 30% of all DEF consumed in the United States. UP has told Flying J to reduce their shipments by a whopping 50%. And if they do not comply then they will be completely embargoed. That would in effect bankrupt FJ. This means that 15% of all DEF consumed by truckers in the US is no longer available at the largest travel service center for the entire trucking industry.

Rome rotted from the inside out. It was easily invaded because it was occupied with internal problems. It appears we have discovered the Trigger. DEF fluid. If this holds up, DEF shortages will be the catalyst that causes food shortages in the coming months. Not only is there a shortage of fertilizer to grow crops in drought-stricken states (See Kansas' drop in wheat production for 2022)....but....now it looks like, unless the Federal Government intervenes via the Defense Production Act, ...which I am no longer confident they will....there is gonna be an absolute massive shortage of trucking in the coming months.

There simply isn't going to be DEF fluid sufficient to keep the engines running and moving. Home Depot is now limiting the amount of DEF you can buy in their stores.

I would think long and hard about the decisions you are making right now. Where you live. What you spend money on. How you prepare. This is so real that the CEO of Flying J, Shameek Konar was summoned to a Surface Transportation Board hearing to give them all this info.

From what I'm reading....Blackrock is the majority shareholder of Union Pacific railroad. How is that important? Americas biggest fertilizer producer is CF Industries. Their largest shareholder is Blackrock. Blackrock controls the fertilizer industry in the U.S.. Union Pacific has exclusive rights to distribution points of fertilizer. Urea is fertilizer. Flying J needs Urea/DEF. Blackrock is controlling everything.

The Chairman of the BlackRock Investment Institute is Tom Donilon, President Obama’s former National Security Advisor. Tom Donilon’s brother, Mike Donilon is a Senior Advisor to Joe Biden. Tom Donilon’s wife, Catherine Russell, is the White House Personnel Director. Tom Donilon’s daughter, Sarah Donilon, who graduated college in 2019, now works on the White House National Security Council.

It appears Blackrock is spearheading the dismantling of the US system on behalf of the Globalists. And the first domino they are pushing over is the energy sector. They are using DEF to get the party started. This is one sector of the biggest downfalls in political repercussions this country has ever faced…
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But it takes time to get a plant operational...
We have bigger issues in our industry then def lol, we have 2 year lead times on new trucks on lots... we are sending out units without sensors due to shortages and we can barely get oil and common parts let alone computers that have been back ordered for over a year now.. urea can be programmed out of units if need be if a shortage happens.. ECM or other control components on the other hand that I've seen first hand is far more scary.
 
My friend programmed Def out of his 2011 Denali and it runs better than ever. It might not be as clean, but the MPGs went up and the power is great. The Def system light use to come on all the time when it was new and a number of visits to sort it out came up with nothing except frustration.
 
I live in Kansas and majority of the trucks here have their DEF systems removed. No emissions inspections, hell we don't even have safety inspections here!
That's scary....

I personally love def I can run a truck in the shop and not get sick or have a massive headache.

I also love deleted trucks cause they are cash cows! I'm cummins and Detroit certified and as soon as you delete a truck you lose all support from them, which includes you can't do most computer diagnostic tests, you lose any warranty on the entire drive train and say if it's deleted and I rebuild it but mess up the bill is 100% on the customer. Most rebuild have a 2 year warranty on parts and labour but not on deleted units you lose that instantly.

The cherry on top also is people delete them crank the HP and don't put new injectors in at the same time, they have coking inside of them and as soon as the fuel pressure is cranked up they get stuck open and wipe out an entire engine.
 
Isn't the DEF programmed in to the trucks systems? Can't you not simply program it out?

And wasn't it in trucks after what 2012? Diesels will burn about anything. They tried to force them to clean up. And I want to say it was for those built post 2012. They are trying to force new emissions on us. Even if it means trying to obsolete something that worked just fine. DEF is an additive they forced into truckers. And banks wouldn't finance, insurance wouldn't insure, etc etc.

Feel free to verify my inputs but it's not as cut and dried as you make it seem to be.

However based on the printed perception, I'd be mortgaging my house to buy into Tesla. They have the best chance at converting trucks into all EV.

I bet it would take me about 15 minutes to find out if Vanguard/Blackrock are large holders of Tesla.
 
Isn't the DEF programmed in to the trucks systems? Can't you not simply program it out?

And wasn't it in trucks after what 2012? Diesels will burn about anything. They tried to force them to clean up. And I want to say it was for those built post 2012. They are trying to force new emissions on us. Even if it means trying to obsolete something that worked just fine. DEF is an additive they forced into truckers. And banks wouldn't finance, insurance wouldn't insure, etc etc.

Feel free to verify my inputs but it's not as cut and dried as you make it seem to be.

However based on the printed perception, I'd be mortgaging my house to buy into Tesla. They have the best chance at converting trucks into all EV.

I bet it would take me about 15 minutes to find out if Vanguard/Blackrock are large holders of Tesla.
Aftertreament is 100% goverment mandates so is the derate system and you can defiantly by pass it by programming.

People always thinks its the manufacturer fault but it is all EPA or EURO law, EURO had def and DPF's way before North America, DEF was mandated in 2010 for North America.
 
Aftertreament is 100% goverment mandates so is the derate system and you can defiantly by pass it by programming.

People always thinks its the manufacturer fault but it is all EPA or EURO law, EURO had def and DPF's way before North America, DEF was mandated in 2010 for North America.
Yeah one of the reasons diesels we're so popular is you could burn chytty fuel and they'd chug away with out issue.

And yes I know they were dirty. But so are trains, ships and pretty much all of the back up power generators. That don't have to burn this DEF stuff.
 
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