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I see that they think that, but do not agree.
No job = tax refund?
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Mr Brown
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Of course you can legislate morality, sometimes it's the only way to make people do what is right. Ever heard of the Civil Rights Act?
Saying this indicates to me your narrow frame of mind. The very fact that you consider money made off other people's labor to be "someone's money" shows where your head is. "I made it so I can keep it all even when others need it". The world has seen this mentality many times over. Every civilization that got greedy and stopped taking care of its own poor eventually failed.
Your example has absolutely nothing to do with what I was talking about, but okay......
If you can't see the difference between a welfare handout and a tax rebate, we need continue this conversation no further.
Enjoy your day sir, and let me know what color the sky is in your world tomorrow.
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I know absolutely no millionaires personally, so I couldn't tell ya what's under their beds, however I have read many cases where they have hidden wealth offshore, pay no taxes on it, or write off incredible losses in order to pay less. And that's just the ones that got caught!
A lot of the "churning of the economic engine" comes from tax dollars being distributed for projects.
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I would politely suggest that it is not particularly difficult to live beneath one's means when ones worth is in the millions or billions......
Just sayin......
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all in all the welfare recipient and the guy making $4ok with 3 kids just different shades of grey. both are taking way more than they put into the system, both are being subsidized by the gov. thru taxing of the upper classes.
this clearly shows that:
guy A make $50k, and has 3 kids......pays $6k in taxes
guy B makes $250k, has 3 kids(in private school) and pays $67k
guy B makes 5x times what guy A does.....yet he pays over 8x times the taxes.
guy B pays $61k more in taxes.
i am sorry that some are upset that poor people are taking advantage, but its hypocritical to complain....because most of the country is getting way than they are putting in.....
its just different shades of grey.
I think it's intent that has me and others upset. At least the guy making $40K is trying to support his family. While I still detest the idea that they're getting a bonus for kids, it doesn't irk me nearly as much as people that are living off that bonus.
And Dino knows everything you said to be true. I think he just gets bored when his supply of "medicine" runs low and likes to rant and stir the pot.
You know, may as well stir it if you can't smoke it right?
Not sure what part you think I know is true but I do not think MOST people who recieve assistance use it for something other than what it is intended. I do think the 5 or 10% that do use it for something other than what it is inteded get 99% of the press. We just don't hear about the people who get assistance as use it to to pull themselves up and get off it so they can contribute. Why, because who wants to see good news "in the news".
As for the top 5% of income earners in this country, they own 95% of the wealth, and everything they do involves protecting that wealth so you do not get it, and they get more of it. So when you tell me they are investing it or creating more jobs that may be true but they are creating them overseas where the labor is cheaper but the return is higher.
So while it is easy to complain about the poor and attack the poor and judge the poor. The real problem is the very wealthy who control the wealth.
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I think more like 75% abuse the system and 25% will use it to help them get by while trying to better their quality of life.
Just from the people I know anyway. I'm the only one out of my old running buddies that isn't dead, welfare leach, or in prison. Out of just the 20 I'm the only one that's made it. Own a house. No assistance. 2 of them were my cousins and we lived together. They've had every single oppurtunity I've had.
That doesn't count the people that I know abuse the system and will never do anything else. One of my distant family members has probably never made more than 15k has three kids, one has a rare form of downs syndrome, married an illegal so he could become a citizen divorced once he was and is dating another. Lives in public housing. Gets native benefits as well as state. I could go on on about people I know like this. Some are worse others not so bad. Its the kinda people like I just mentioned that I know get these breaks that enrage me.
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Just from the people I know anyway. I'm the only one out of my old running buddies that isn't dead, welfare leach, or in prison. Out of just the 20 I'm the only one that's made it. Own a house. No assistance. 2 of them were my cousins and we lived together. They've had every single oppurtunity I've had.
That doesn't count the people that I know abuse the system and will never do anything else. One of my distant family members has probably never made more than 15k has three kids, one has a rare form of downs syndrome, married an illegal so he could become a citizen divorced once he was and is dating another. Lives in public housing. Gets native benefits as well as state. I could go on on about people I know like this. Some are worse others not so bad. Its the kinda people like I just mentioned that I know get these breaks that enrage me.
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i understand that......
i chose not to have kids, i choose not to be married and choose to bust my ass so that i may buy all the toys that i want....
but like i said its all shades of grey...
you, me and others are all paying for people "personal choices". whether it the te welfare mom or the middle class guy with 3 kids. they are all getting more than than they put in.
if somebody steals $100 from you to feed his kids.....is it right?
if somebody steals $500 from you to feed his kids.....is it worse?
reminds me of the thread where everybody was complaining about people not buying american.....while everybody on this site chose to "not buy american".
shades of grey.
You are kidding, right? The wealthy (at least those that earned it, not those that were born into it) don't sit around on the tails all day worrying about how to protect their wealth, they are too busy out trying to EARN it. Most are tickled to death if someone else manages to dig themselves out of poverty (as that's one less person they have to support).
Unless you mean that by "protecting" it, they try to keep the government's theiving hands out of it....Let's try it this way. You bought and paid for your Busa, right? You really don't want anyone else riding it....so, how would you feel if every punk squid poseur just decided that he had a right to come over and ride it anytime he wanted to...would't like it, would you?
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So True skydvr...
Whew Craigntx that vidclip is kinda borderline aint it ?
Dont know why I cant stop watching it...
Whew Craigntx that vidclip is kinda borderline aint it ?
Dont know why I cant stop watching it...
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