New Florida Motorcycle laws-Effective 01 Oct, 2008

Just think , the same idiots that have passed the laws and have the economy all screwed up are the same Idiots ( politicians ) that are passing these type laws. Its all about the $$$...
And JR'Busa , I have land in TN in the mountains ( some 4 sale.. :)
 
People in Florida need to contact their local representative and start removing these stupid laws. What REALLY is going on is the same as what is going on in Myrtle Beach, SC next year. They think Florida is a "vacation" state and want to get rid of the motorcycles. I DON'T believe one minute that Florida has more problem than any other state. That is just BS!!! People (mostly the older people who are on in old folks communities, people that are on life support machines, and people that have hit other motorcycles cause they can't see out them glasses)want these laws to get rid of the motorcycles. I think it is very possible that they want to discourage bike week in daytona as well. Isn't in March??? Since Florida is a "retirement" state these ignorant officials are getting these retarded laws past. Guess what....now Johnny will run and when he crashes and dad/police/judge asks Johnny why he ran.......I could not afford the $1000.00 to pay ticket. This is the most ignorant laws that I have ever heard of. Than if you get the 3rd time you were nailed for speeding or other.....your whole life is ruined. I see absolutely no positive thing out of this law. I think it is nothing but to discriminate against the motorcyclist. My mother lives in Florida.....sorry ma!!! I can't ever see ya there......you need to come and see me!!! Why you ask....cause your state is ran by a bunch of communists!!!!! :banghead:




Well the point being, you were told we need the plate so we can read it.. this is the third time and you obviously are "shunning" the law and so we are going to stick it to you.... You should have listened the first time..


I do totally agree that the door is WAY open to abuse.. if the abuse occurs, then I expect a lot more of the "runners"...

I hate to say it but you know as well as I do that a small group of riders have impossed this "iron fist" on the entire community..

The guys that "WooHoo!!" the Youtube videos of illegal stunters, speedsters and other violators just made their own plight worse..

I truly fear that fatal bike crashes may go up... and why ? cause you plate was in the wrong place (according to one officer)...

I am torn over this entire mess... Some people should not be allowed to ride because they have a problem with complying with laws and rules... BUT They make it tough on a guy that might get caught "screwing" around 1 time, just not fair IMO to hit a guy for $1000 for a moment of indiscretion.. but am totally in favor of confiscating the bike of a rider that is above the law...
 
This has got way out of hand .. A friend last week got a 91 dollar ticket for flipping his visor up while STOPPED at a lite . Another friend got a ticket because his Muffler didn't have a DOT sticker !! That same friend also got wrote for no reflector on his tag !! .. I got a ticket a while back for doing a short burn out in an empty parking lot ..I was charged under a new fl law " Drag racing on the hiway " This law is a real winner ..You don't have to be racing anyone to get this ticket and you don't have to be on the hiway either .. Law states any road or parking lot ..That little burn out cost me 1000+ bucks and loss of my DL for a half a year and i had a clean DL with no points at that time ..

Point is the cops will use any means to pull you over and bust your chops because you are on a sport bike while some drunk on a Hardly Davidson goes by with open pipes ..Any cop well be able to say you pulled a wheely even if you didn't and guess what it is your word Vs his and you lost ..Even if you tag is in the right place you will get a ticket , you will say i'm going to fight that ticket but in Court the cop will lie and say it was in the wrong place... You lost again ....

I put my mud flap back on just last week with the factory tag mount and reflector.. It sucks but i'm going to try to cover my bases just in case ...
 
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Hey guys, ummm...as far as the tag goes...does this count if u have out of state tags and license...would u have to change ur tag mounts every time u came down here????

Dont quote me on this but NO! Only if your a resident of the state, will the "Tag Law" apply
 
This has got way out of hand .. A friend last week got a 91 dollar ticket for flipping his visor up while STOPPED at a lite . Another friend got a ticket because his Muffler didn't have a DOT sticker !! That same friend also got wrote for no reflector on his tag !! .. I got a ticket a while back for doing a short burn out in an empty parking lot ..I was charged under a new fl law " Drag racing on the hiway " This law is a real winner ..You don't have to be racing anyone to get this ticket and you don't have to be on the hiway either .. Law states any road or parking lot ..That little burn out cost me 1000+ bucks and loss of my DL for a half a year and i had a clean DL with no points at that time ..

Point is the cops will use any means to pull you over and bust your chops because you are on a sport bike while some drunk on a Hardly Davidson goes by with open pipes ..Any cop well be able to say you pulled a wheely even if you didn't and guess what it is your word Vs his and you lost ..Even if you tag is in the right place you will get a ticket , you will say i'm going to fight that ticket but in Court the cop will lie and say it was in the wrong place... You lost again ....

I put my mud flap back on just last week with the factory tag mount and reflector.. It sucks but i'm going to try to cover my bases just in case ...

WOW, how fked up is that! Why whould you get a "DRAGRACING" Ticket for a burn-out?.....Now where you in the wrong? YES! Did you deserve a Ticket? Probably! BUT DRAG RACING ??? That's Reckless driving......AT BEST, Actually should have been more like exibtion of speed, not Contest of speed! **Florida Riders** You ALL need to unite and MARCH INTO CITY HALL!!! PICKET YOUR AZZ OFF OUT FRONT! Do Something to Try and get this CHET Reversed! .ORG Members, We ALL need to BOYCOTT Bike Week next year! See how they like loosing thousands maybe even millions of dollars for there state that the "BIKER COMMUNITY" brings in!
 
This has got way out of hand .. A friend last week got a 91 dollar ticket for flipping his visor up while STOPPED at a lite . Another friend got a ticket because his Muffler didn't have a DOT sticker !! That same friend also got wrote for no reflector on his tag !! .. I got a ticket a while back for doing a short burn out in an empty parking lot ..I was charged under a new fl law " Drag racing on the hiway " This law is a real winner ..You don't have to be racing anyone to get this ticket and you don't have to be on the hiway either .. Law states any road or parking lot ..That little burn out cost me 1000+ bucks and loss of my DL for a half a year and i had a clean DL with no points at that time ..

Point is the cops will use any means to pull you over and bust your chops because you are on a sport bike while some drunk on a Hardly Davidson goes by with open pipes ..Any cop well be able to say you pulled a wheely even if you didn't and guess what it is your word Vs his and you lost ..Even if you tag is in the right place you will get a ticket , you will say i'm going to fight that ticket but in Court the cop will lie and say it was in the wrong place... You lost again ....

I put my mud flap back on just last week with the factory tag mount and reflector.. It sucks but i'm going to try to cover my bases just in case ...
Some1 correct me if im wrong, arent most of the exhaust pipes for our bikes not DOT approved? My pipes say for offroad use only...
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Well these new penalties suck. Local bike night on thursday we ended up with 3 impounds meaning 3 arrest and that was our towing company alone,there were quite a few by other companies. One of the guys we got ended up with about 600.00 for the ticket + his 1000 consolation prize. he was doing about 120. I am expecting a lot of abuse from LEO in enforcement, but you have over 20 riders over the course of 1 night riding in the triple digits. That I am aware of 3 of them fled, ran through the roadblocks. Nearly every bike night at this place at least 1 rider dies blazing home it's so bad that have closed off the entrance ramp to the highway cause of the turn that is there at the ramp. You wonder where the hatred comes from for sportbikes? Funny thing is we loose a screw off our license plate we get a 1000 fine an stuff but if an old lady runs a stop a sign an kills a biker she gets a ticket and drives away.
 
WOW, how fked up is that! Why whould you get a "DRAGRACING" Ticket for a burn-out?.....Now where you in the wrong? YES! Did you deserve a Ticket? Probably! BUT DRAG RACING ??? That's Reckless driving......AT BEST, Actually should have been more like exibtion of speed, not Contest of speed! **Florida Riders** You ALL need to unite and MARCH INTO CITY HALL!!! PICKET YOUR AZZ OFF OUT FRONT! Do Something to Try and get this CHET Reversed! .ORG Members, We ALL need to BOYCOTT Bike Week next year! See how they like loosing thousands maybe even millions of dollars for there state that the "BIKER COMMUNITY" brings in!

If you want to boycott/avoid Myrtle Beach and Daytona that is good. Just go ahead and take your Bike week to indianapolis, indiana. This year was their first annual Bike Week. I used to live in indianapolis for 4 years and the police don't mess with you. They will have them now every year I have been told by my buddy. They close off a bunch of streets for just bikes. My buddy stated that there was 1000s upon 1000s of bikes there. Indianapolis loves the bikes and loves the cash flow. Go there!!! I believe they have it in August. They will have it every year now on!!!!
 
Well all i gotta say is if the fines keep going up there's gonna be tons of people running luckily my area has a no pursuit policy for my county and the other county im in a lot
 
Well this all sounds a bit draconian , seems the few always spoil it for the many , everything in society is bought down to the lowest denominator, and this is the hoons that wheelie eveywhere and play Ghost Rider after watching Boob tube video's , the downside is as someone has suggested it means more revenue for the State coffers ,
here in Australia we are waging a battle against Front number plates being introduced because 5% of riders are not getting pinged by Speed cameras
everyone has their issues to deal with , my answer is try to deal with it and pray to God you don't get caught doing something they can fine you for.
or if you want to ride fast and staysafe do it on the Track .:lol:
 
If you want to boycott/avoid Myrtle Beach and Daytona that is good. Just go ahead and take your Bike week to indianapolis, indiana. This year was their first annual Bike Week. I used to live in indianapolis for 4 years and the police don't mess with you. They will have them now every year I have been told by my buddy. They close off a bunch of streets for just bikes. My buddy stated that there was 1000s upon 1000s of bikes there. Indianapolis loves the bikes and loves the cash flow. Go there!!! I believe they have it in August. They will have it every year now on!!!!

+1 Hit that damn state where it hurts, There pocket book! Probably wouldn't affect them though, With the F-ING $$$ there making off tickets now dayz!!! :moon:
 
WOW, how fked up is that! Why whould you get a "DRAGRACING" Ticket for a burn-out?.....Now where you in the wrong? YES! Did you deserve a Ticket? Probably! BUT DRAG RACING ??? That's Reckless driving......AT BEST, Actually should have been more like exibtion of speed, not Contest of speed! **Florida Riders** You ALL need to unite and MARCH INTO CITY HALL!!! PICKET YOUR AZZ OFF OUT FRONT! Do Something to Try and get this CHET Reversed! .ORG Members, We ALL need to BOYCOTT Bike Week next year! See how they like loosing thousands maybe even millions of dollars for there state that the "BIKER COMMUNITY" brings in!

i thought that if your in a parking lot its considered private property and that the place of buiseness has to have a contract with whatever city or jurisdiction it was in for them to have any say in that particular parking lot
 
Yes, eye protection is required in Florida. I wear clear or shaded glasses behind my shield while wearing the full face helmet. People should know the laws prior to riding. I ride with my shield up quite a bit, with glasses, and never have recieved a ticket. Obviously, riding any distance without glasses and the shield up is violating the law. Personally, I don't want a pebble, rock, bug, etc., rendering my eye(s) useless because I'm cooling off........I'll wear my glasses. EVERYONE NEEDS TO RESEARCH THE LAWS OF THE STATE THEY LIVE IN OR PLAN TO VISIT! :poke:


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Originally Posted by jeffroe334
My friend got a ticket for riding with his shield up down here in FLorida over in Tampa. He was cooling down at a light and drove about 100 yards and flipped it down and got a ticket. You don't even have to ride with a helmet down here so he was a little miffed.

I think we will see a lot more guys trying to run from the cops.

eye protection required? (I got a warning in Tempe AZ for this myself doing the same thing)
 
Yep I bought a pair of riding glasses that fit inside my helmet. gives me option of riding with shield up on those hot days down here in Florida.
 
on of my friends got a ticket while sitting at a red with his shield up he took it up once he stopped and put it down before he moved i think that one was a lil rediculous of the cop just harrasment as i see it
 
WAG said:
I'm confused. Why is it that the initial reaction is to be pissed because you
can no longer break the law without costing yourself an arm and a leg? The laws
haven't changed, just the penalties.

Why not just comply with the law and avoid the penalties?

ok wag , apparently you dont live in florida. Lets be fair about this. If speeding over
50mph is worth 1 grand on a bike shouldn't it be the same cost for someone in a car?
I sure as hell think it should. Why should a motorcyclist be treated differently then a car
for a speeding infraction?

look at the difference in the fine schedules....

For moving violations involving unlawful speed, the Florida speeding ticket fines are as follows:

For speed exceeding the limit by:
Fine:
1-5 m.p.h. Warning
6-9 m.p.h. $ 25
10-14 m.p.h. $100
15-19 m.p.h. $125
20-29 m.p.h. $150
30 m.p.h. and above $250


Court costs imposed under this subsection may not exceed $30.

source of information...Florida Speeding Ticket

Thats 4 times the difference. No stipulation for repeat offenders unless you dont pay the fines.

That is where I find the issue with this law. 50 over is 50 over , wether it's a car or a bike, the fines
should be equal.

So my questions to you wag are why should there be a double standard for the same infraction?
Why should it cost 4 times more for a vehicle weighing 1/4 or less then the weight of a car?
How much more damage can be caused by a midsized or full sized suv going the same speed?

I am quite sure that if a lincoln navigator were to plow into a line of parked bikes at 50
it would cause more damage then a motorcycle hitting the same.

By this standard the law may be a little lopsided.


speedadict said:
I wish they would make it manditory to have insurance on their bikes down there.
That would cut a lot of the BS out I belive. If there premiums started going up
with every wreck and ticket maybee they would think twice about doing that nonsense

A little fyi here speed adict. Insurance is not mandatory on a motorcycle in florida.
Nor are helmets. There are rules for this though. If you want to ride without a lid,
you are required to have insurance. If your passanger rides without a lid you have
to have that clause added to the policy as well. If you do not carry insurance,
(stupid idea in my opinion) you must wear a helmet. IT was part of the
"let those who ride decide" campaign several years ago when the lifted the helmet law.

bowwow said:
it is about LEO's targeting us and making their own judgement on what
is right and wrong.

For leo it is a judgement call. Then again IF you don't give them reason to notice you, there
should be no problem with them. If you live in fl get your stuff right and do what is needed.
I still have to fix the tag thing on my bike, it's not illuminated yet. And I have no problem with
that.

It is required for cars. Only its not a moving violation, it's an equipment violation with
no point assessment.
Herein lies my problem with this new law.


jeffrow334 said:
He was cooling down at a light and drove about 100 yards and flipped
it down and got a ticket. You don't even have to ride with a helmet down
here so he was a little miffed.

your next jeffrow..The part about the helmet was already covered above.

Here Eye protection is required at all times while operating a motorcycle.
Qualifying eye protection is described as, any perscription eyewear, dot motorcycle shield,
or eyewear specifically designed for motorcycle riding. A windscreen or windjam of a motorcycle
is not eye protection.

I wear perscription glasses at all times. Last week I got pulled over because the officer
couldn't tell i had any on. I was royally ticked when i got pulled over. I wasnt speeding, or driving
unsafe in any way. When he told me that he didnt notice my glasses i was quite happy. He told me to
have a nice day and I rode on. This was maybe the second time I was pulled over and not issued a
ticked for some lame bs. ( and that includes driving a cage as well).

I do not forsee all of these laws lasting very long. Most have merit in theory only. Some are totally insane
and discriminatory toward cyclists. For those of you who live here in fl you have probably seen the bikes
doing wheelies while traveling the interstates. Stupid idea, these idiots deserve the fines. This law I support.

Do not get me wrong , I love watching the stunt guys. Just not going up the middle of I-4 at 80mph in moderate traffic.
That is the wrong place and time. Find a place, get an approval from the land owner, hold them not liable.
Guys I know have even draw up a schedule and times and had them approved with small airports and malls to do stunting.
Thye small airport even charges a small admission. Enjoy yourselves , do your stunts. Just do them in a safe place.



And for all of you that dont want to come to florida because of some laws you dont like. fine. Stay the ef out of here.
It leaves me more room to ride without some out of state idiot on a bike acting the fool. We dont want you here anyway.
Which means you may never learn the feeling of taking a leisurly ride in a weekend morning without the lid. It can and is
quite enjoyable when done RESPONSIBLY!!!



Stay safe on the roads, and enjoy the ride.
 
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The speed limit penalties does apply to cars also i don't understand why the tag violation doesn't, i have seen many modded cars with the tag crooked improperly mounted and inside the car jammed in the rear window behind tinted glass.


And for all of you that dont want to come to florida because of some laws you dont like. fine. Stay the ef out of here.
It leaves me more room to ride without some out of state idiot on a bike acting the fool. We dont want you here anyway.
Which means you may never learn the feeling of taking a leisurly ride in a weekend morning without the lid. It can and is
quite enjoyable when done RESPONSIBLY!!!

Enjoy your ride i know it feels good cause I used to do it. But we have the worst drivers in the nation the biggest problem we have out on the road today are cagers who don't care, talking crap on the phone an texting doing everything but paying attention. I saw one run a stop sign kill a biker (he was a wearing his lid) that was traveling the speed limit and cops came firefighters hosed blood of the street, the old bag was given her citation for the stop sign an told to have a nice day, pay the fine an go to school an no points. The triple digit suicide riders and the stunters out there are big problem on the road way. Nothing is being done to improve the cagers and their driving habits. Politicians want to improve safety, why did they remove the parallel parking from the drivers exam because to many people were failing the test, so they removed it so they could put people who can't control their car at 1/2 mile an hour in a parking lot to drive on the streets and on the highways.
 
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