Rojo
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A Real History Lesson on Wars and Assassinations.
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TallTom
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1. Nothing in our constitution prevents a felon from being elected. Despite what the Liberals want you to believe.
2. He has never been put on trial for Jan. 6. Per the Constitution he is innocent until proven guilty. Further many of those convicted were never given due process. Also against the Constitution. But the Liberals would prefer to ignore those facts.
3. The Democrats thought they had good reason to impeach him twice. They were defeated both times. And will for this new 3rd time.
Yep wealth has corrupted our legal system. It has become who can afford better attorneys. I wish it wasn't so. The Constitution doesn't address that. Attorneys make fortunes by distorting facts and truths.
4. Perhaps a lot more women saw through the charges. Or didn't care nearly as much as his opposition needed them to He seems to have a lot of strong capable women in his current cabinet. That have known him for years.
5. You said I wasn't keeping up. There is nothing new in any of your response. It's the same old liberal spin, rinse, repeat. This is all 4 year old arguments.
Let's summarize the 5 bullet points.
Every voter knew all of the above. He got more votes this time around than last time around. By Blacks. Latinos. Particularly the border population Latinos. By women. By the elderly. By the religious. By the Jewish. Clearly they prioritize the health of our country, over anything the Liberals offered. If a man like Trump can beat their political machine, then it says a LOT about how bad America has gotten.
The liberals need you to forget these facts. They instead have you reciting 4 year old news, that lost the election. And if he could run again, probably defeat them again.
Let's get you a little more current.
Trump currently is in violation of a Supreme Court order. The Constitution should support that fact and find his office in contempt.
Trump has no legal way to annex Canada as a state if Canada is not in favor of it. Nor Greenland. However unlike Canada, Greenland could be in favor of it. The Dutch have treated them pretty badly and Greenland is seeking separation from that.
Trump has no way to run a third time. The Constitution prevents it.
Trump has no legal way to place American born citizens into foreign prisons. The Constitution prevents that. Naturalized aren't as immune.
What Trump is doing is re-defining, not changing but rather revisiting the definition of what the Executive branch can and can't do, what powers the Administrative branch can and can't do. That has gotten pretty blurry in the past few decades.
I believe he fully expects legal challenges. And probably expects the SCOTUS to rule on the framework of the Constitution in these challenges. As it has become obvious the lower courts have been taking a lot of liberty in how to interpret the laws and the Constitution. He has a MUCH sharper and focused team of legal minds than he did in his 1st term. So yeah we can expect a pretty busy SCOTUS for 4 more years. As we recalled, he hasn't won all his cases, so the liberals will just have to suck up what losses they get. Lord knows the Conservatives have been whining for decades at their losses. The tables have turned. If America likes the results, those tables will stay conservative for decades.
Red05
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He could and should have stopped there. Our founders understandably saw no need for such an item in the constitution.
We as a nation elected a felon. About half our country voted for him anyway. It’s a sad time for a great country, but at least it’s temporary.
Donald Trump should be in jail, not the freaking White House.
CBXRider
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What a liar! The concept of innocent until proven guilty is NOT in the constitution and all the Jan 6 criminals were given due process. trump deserved to be impeached and still does. The only truthful thing you posted is shown below.
…”Attorneys make fortunes by distorting facts and truths.” No truer words were ever typed.
…”Attorneys make fortunes by distorting facts and truths.” No truer words were ever typed.
Bumblebee
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Whew.......you've gone to the zerks school of typing diarrhea......
If this person is the example of a human being Americans want representing them on the world stage then that is just sad.....little kids can aspire to a man who is a proven adulterer, has made (on video) disparaging comments towards women, has called a person "Pocahontas" on video amongst other degrading, personal attacks....even on Senator McCain (R.I.P.) because he was taken as a POW....at least he wore the uniform and fought for his country....each and every veteran should have turned their back on Trump just for his doing that....
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We've been all through Jan 6th, you Trumpeters all defend and admire his actions on that day.......but in the end, he got away with an attack on the very fabric of the democratic process of the US.......well done him......;;.when he professes his love for the insurrectionists and saying at least they tried......that should have been the end of his political career......he tried to send his then VP to stop the electoral process and when he refused, Trump branded him a coward and traitor.......and that whipped up the crowd to start chanting to hang Pence.......I shudder to think of what would have happened if they had actually found him.....
As far as a felon goes @Red05 summed that up....I'm sure the writers of your constitution never in a million years thought a convicted felon would ever get on a ballot yet alone become president.....they are all rolling in their graves.......
TallTom
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Well you don't seem to follow current events in short burst of info very well as you are still latched on to old news and accusing others of not know what's going on. I'm sorry you struggle with having to read more than 2 paragraphs.
Yes our forefathers have been rolling in their graves over many parts of our constitution that have been prostituted. They never imagined what we have done with guns. Citizens burning our flags. Citizens holding up a mock severed head of a president. Men claiming to be women. Women claiming to be men. Having illegal immigrants getting constitutional rights. Having illegal immigrants embraced by our government. Search and seizures. Speedy trials. Due process. etc etc etc that have deteriorated in our country. Unless and until we have a legal change made to it, it's still the law of our land. And it's definitions need to have some clarity redefined.
It's kind of a long document. Too long for you to want to understand.
And yes Trump was discussing how some, not all women present their p"$$#ies to be grabbed by men with power, money and fame. It's still happening now, and will continue to. I remember your current Trudeau's dad being quite the p$_&y grabber himself in his day. Had scores of women bringing about sexual lawsuits. And all the efforts to silence them. Are you conveniently forgetting that your citizens embraced him as their leader for what a decade? And have embraced his son. Who also has women accusing him of sexual misconducts. How odd this doesn't seem nearly relevant as you highlight ours.
Maybe you should fix your culture before criticizing ours.
Bumblebee
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First of all.......I accused you of nothing.....you asked and I regurgitated what we have already discussed here at length (and then some)....
You know when you can't justify what you are typing when you deflect to what others are doing or have done......."Trump's a bad person but look at what YOUR guy has done" sort of argument or "Maybe you should fix your culture before criticizing others" is akin to saying "I know you are, but what am I".............. school yard stuff..........
Perhaps you are struggling with the fact you are placing your entre faith in a very, very flawed human being who has disrespected women, indigenous folk, veterans and American allied nations....I would think his disrespecting the military and veterans would affect you as you served in uniform.
If I had voted for such a person, I'd be doing whatever I could to justify my decision as well...
TallTom
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Sure you did. Here is exactly your words in post #58.
I guess you haven't been following what was going on with him.....
And then present the 4 year old drumbeat.
And repeat the libtard drumbeat of womanizing while showing your own hypocrisy on the topic.
I'm not the one not keeping up. Newsflash, most of America decided that 4 year old drumbeat was all b/s to them. Try being a good liberal and move along to something with more relevance.
I'm not surprised you don't want to address the Canadian's with nearly the vitriol you have towards us. It's much easier for you to join the libtard playbook that way. Trump is easier to focus on, than why your country can't even trade with itself very well. And you want to discuss our division? That's pretty rich.
Go fix your problems with the same energy you want to complain about ours. We have enough libtards here trying to undermine this country.
Bumblebee
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This is what you posted (if we have to start the posting game....) "I don't know how current I am today. I saw where the Dems are going to try and impeach him. What else is new?"
I would wager anyone reading that would think you weren't aware of what was going on....I realize the word "else" in there is ambiguous and could be viewed as you already know but aren't aware of anything brand-new.....
Shall we keep this going as I can come back at you, then you will come back at me and so forth and so forth......
To what avail and for what point?
You throw the word "liberal" around like it is a weapon to be wielded......I'm not a liberal but if someone was, I'd respect their right to be one not degrade them for it......
You own a business......do you only deal with people who are MAGA or will you also do business with people whom you refer to as "libtards?"
TallTom
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Well when someone embraces their ideology I go with that.
None of my neighbors, friends, or colleagues label me on either side of the politics. None of them have beliefs that are extreme. We all seem to have more in common than differences. We also have developed the skill set of knowing when to shut up and listen. My black police chief neighbor helped me calibrate the BLM movement. My Oncologist neighbor who personally worked with Dr. Fauci during the AIDS epidemic, taught me about Dr. Fauci. My Chinese immigrants neighbors left China 10 years ago. But still have family and friends there. They teach me the reality of what's going on in China. If the news reported the truth, the Liberals would be cooked! Trump nearly collapsed them once before. The pandemic dug China out of the gravesite that had been dug.
From my work perspective if anyone is disrespectful or abusive, I not only refuse service, I let my colleagues know. And they help drive home the consequences of mistreating those that are providing a service to them. How they vote is irrelevant. We can teach them how fortunate they had it by taking away that fortune. We don't ask anyone how they vote, we determine their character. And act upon that. Pretty simple politics.
Hope that's brief enough for you.
Bumblebee
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Very brief and thank you for that.....
This is why terms such as "libtard and demtard" are so destructive to society.....people are people.....and bad people occupy all walks of life.
When a person's political alignment is attacked it is the same as attacking their gender, race, ethnicity or religion because politics have become so interwoven into society in general.
In my bubble, I don't know what political alignment people around me follow nor do I care.....like you pointed out, I judge people on their actions, not who they vote for.
TallTom
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I see. And calling someone a Trumpeter is an endearing term?
Someone can be Liberal or Republican, and not adopt beliefs that undermine America. I know of no liberals that believe we should have open borders. If they did I would oppose what they represent. Has zero to do with their gender or race or religion. But once I oppose them it doesn't matter their gender or religion or race. They are simply undermining America then.
And I don't proclaim to be either side. I voted for Perot. I voted for Obama the 1st time. Abstained hos 2nd time. Did not vote for Trump or Clinton when they clashed and voted against Biden both times. There are plenty of Pubtards that are undermining America. I don't discriminate.
I used to just ignore all the political static and abstain from voting. Thinking common sense would rule the outcome of our leadership. And as a result America turned to crap. I never in my wildest dreams thought out nation would ever have Republican leadership again. Then Trump came along. Unfortunately he is the only choice we have that isn't a Liberal.
Red05
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It could be, unless you have something against brass wind instruments.
Zerks
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Years one through three (17-19 ) were good with record numbers in a number of areas that mattered. So, I don't know who you are talking about. Covid was a big scam and altered much of the momentum that had accumulated.
If you don't think covid was a scam then you haven't followed what Fauci got caught lying about in congressional hearings.
Like you said before... nobody is perfect... so, when you open the borders and put illegals on social security at maximum benefit like Brandon did with help from the VP... Its anybodies guess as to how many moved away.
The level of missing information from your memory rivals Joe Biden's memory. I take it you think a Federal judge ( some lawyer with a black robe on ) should be able to over rule a president in charge of protecting this country from enemies foreign and domestic under the alien enemies act.
The marxist judges want the illegal gang banger MS-13 terrorist ( as recently reclassified as terrorist ) brought back to America for reasons they believe to be justified legally... hmmm... If you support that, then... You should call DHS and let them know they can move into your house, your neighborhood ( petition your neighbors, I am sure they will think its a great idea ) and collect social security so they can pay you to be their landlord.... wouldn't that be fun? This way you could help rehabilitate them in your spare time.
All of this gives new meaning to that old cliche... nobody is above the law. Or, we could make illegality legal.
Too bad you aren't a federal judge, right? That way you could look for new ways to subvert the president every time he decided to take action.
In other news.... the big letters on a street in NYC that say Black Lives Matter got scrubbed and removed. 80 to 90 million dollars were raised by BLM ... I wonder how many of those dollars went to George Floyds family? The reported number is zero dollars.... I wonder where it all went?
Yes... I like to create story lines that rival what crazy people would say... its is simply counter intuitive to what the MSM has been gas lighting us all for years with... propaganda for the masses is still a force inside the heads running the MSM... so... I like to push back a little bit with the same level of ridiculusness.
Bumblebee
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Because of how slow the economy reacts to change...years 1-3 most likely were inherited from the former president Obama
I'm not getting into Covid again...I've said my piece on that far too many times already.......
The border needed to get sorted out....that's granted....as for social security and illegal immigrants....don't you need a social security number to get that? and don't you need a birth certificate or immigrant status to get a social security number? If so there was a failure from many sectors and has been for decades and decades even during Trump's first term.....
We are switched on up here when it comes to social security....maybe we can send advisors there to help....
Zerks
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Got to admit... you are good at casting assumptions that are questionablle. Some of Obama's influential roots are in marxism via his association with Frank Marshall Davis. Obama isn't a fan of capitalism and everything that goes with it either ... . and that explains why after he was elected that he went to certain leaders around the world and apologized for American exceptionalism... it also explains why he dumped tens of billions of dollars on the runway in Iran in the middle off the night... got to feed the extremist so they can buy more weapons so they can keep stirring the pot like the Iranians are doing now by supplying the Houthi's. I wonder if that money came through USAID?
Covid? You drank the MSM version... Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine were well known in the medical community and safe drugs to be taken to fight off the ill effects of Covid 19. What happened to doctors that prescribed or talked about it publicly? Let's just say it wasn't pretty... but you don't want to hear that... the MSM already convinced you what happened. Just get the jab while Big Pharma makes billions off the teat of the US Treasury. More billionaires were created in in that short time period than any other time in recent history. Did the jab work? Did it keep you from catching it? Did it slow the spread? The jab was a failure of epic proportions while gain of function research was able to move forward with Dr Fauci's efforts and funding approvals. Gain of function means making it more lethal... why and who would do something that could leak out or be spread intentionally into the world's population?
The Swamp is vast with military, industrial, political and intel agencies all working together to keep draining the US Treasury. Many people have known about it for decades but wouldn't dare speak of the fraud and corruption going on in their presence. Even Elon says his life is at risk for what his team is uncovering... why? Simply consider all the politicians becoming wealthy is a short number of years... How are they exceeding the S & P 500 average returns by double digits year after year? Pelosi's net worth is about 200 million right now... up from about 50 million in 2020... how does that happen?
Bumblebee
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Not sure about what Obama did but I do know it takes a lot of time to effect change in an economy unless something drastic happens, from all I've read the economy was doing good when Trump took over his first term and this term as well.....
Trump went into this term full of vengeance and hate and pounded the economy hard.....he was able to affect negative change in a real hurry.
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As for Covid, you know about as much about it as I do and I'm no expert......I do know I would place my trust in a professional health care provider more than a conspiracy theorist.....if I have a medical issue, I see a doctor, not some lunatic on the internet. Even your idol Trump got Covid and then got vaccinated.......even he knew it was real.....
Enough said on that subject because you are obviously far more versed than the world's leading medical professionals......
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The monsters of the swamp are alive and well and are currently in the White House.....the guy placed in charge of Doge has how many active contracts with the US government? He is raking in taxpayer dollars at an unprecedented rate and the best news is, he has all the insider information on the competition now that he has complete oversight.........
Musk placed his life in jeopardy because of his actions more than anything else......wading in and decimating departments that he doesn't even know what they do isn't the best course of action but he did it and had to eat crow when they had to try to hire people back that they erroneously fired.......
Then his support for far right groups and the salute was enough to put people over the edge.....people aren't pissed off because he is destroying the US government, they are pissed off for other reasons....
What about your favorite psycho Marjorie Taylor Green and her insider trading in the stock market......she raked in a good pile of money over that one.....
Remember that when you point fingers....there are three pointing back at you.....
TallTom
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Zerks
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Plenty of drastic stuff happening right now... it is a good thing when things get shaken up a bit to see what falls out. The Swamp has been in operation for years and it's time to see what it does and how it does it. As you can see Tall Tom just posted another example of wasted tax payer money... and if you took the time to read the comments under that video it seems some other frauds are also taking place in the same area.
Like Elon says... it's a target rich environment... everywhere he looks he finds things that need to be investigated by looking at the books and examining what "exactly" it is funding. Just remember Elon fired or laid off 80% of Twitter sometime after he bought it and it now makes money every month... it wasn't doing that before.
Also keep in mind his team has also found deleted files that were deleted because somebody didn't want the contents of those files to see the light of day. So, whatever you think he is in there to do one thing is for sure... he is finding waste and fraud. As far as information pertaining to contracts... who do you think drafts those contracts?
The salute? That is too funny... name a political figure and if you comb through enough pictures and video you will see all of them with their right arm extended upward at an angle. Was Green saying saying hail Hitler too? Come on, you can do better than that.
I never said anything about Greene being an angel... that is on her... just like it is with the rest of them... eventually this subject will get some attention too.
The covid information is out there... all you have to do is look for it... Fauci and others should be in jail... Fauci has even admitted he made stuff up... We will likely have some other kind of attack... viral, or something else...
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