Oh no, it won't work like that at all...the "sniper's" family will sue you for taking his life, and you'll pay for their pain and suffering...good grief, we do still live in the USA, right?! RIGHT?!
WHAT THE FUG???!!!!
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so.... to "DEFEND" myself against the family, could I shoot them also?Oh no, it won't work like that at all...the "sniper's" family will sue you for taking his life, and you'll pay for their pain and suffering...good grief, we do still live in the USA, right?! RIGHT?!
Sounds good to meso.... to "DEFEND" myself against the family, could I shoot them also?Oh no, it won't work like that at all...the "sniper's" family will sue you for taking his life, and you'll pay for their pain and suffering...good grief, we do still live in the USA, right?! RIGHT?!
umm...geez Ben, first you were worried about carryin a gun-now yer talkin bout doin drive-bys?
time to pop a prozac n chill a lil bit, big homie-life aint that serious...and if you do havta go that route, n dont have gun-who's to stop you from hitting the brakes or otherwise evading a shooter who appears out of the blue on the interstate??
dont use this as an excuse to carry a gun man, is all Im sayin.
If you wana roll strappd, thats your perogative, IMO...that whole CCL makes me giggle...getn a lic. to carry?? show po-po knows who to look for after the smoke dies down?? y not just write your address n home phone# on a post-it note n stick it on the body?
just for future reference bro-its NEVER self-defense if you get caught TALKIN about it before-hand...you go whack this cat on the interstate now, its pre-meditated, either murder or homicide. is that fair? mebbe not. but dont wana c u go down for a felony just from ranting...but thats what happens.
careful whatcha say Ben-tha 'man' is always watchin....
(but dont worry...i think you might LIKE jail-all those big, smelly men for you to cuddle might be just the change of pace you need)
time to pop a prozac n chill a lil bit, big homie-life aint that serious...and if you do havta go that route, n dont have gun-who's to stop you from hitting the brakes or otherwise evading a shooter who appears out of the blue on the interstate??
dont use this as an excuse to carry a gun man, is all Im sayin.
If you wana roll strappd, thats your perogative, IMO...that whole CCL makes me giggle...getn a lic. to carry?? show po-po knows who to look for after the smoke dies down?? y not just write your address n home phone# on a post-it note n stick it on the body?
just for future reference bro-its NEVER self-defense if you get caught TALKIN about it before-hand...you go whack this cat on the interstate now, its pre-meditated, either murder or homicide. is that fair? mebbe not. but dont wana c u go down for a felony just from ranting...but thats what happens.
careful whatcha say Ben-tha 'man' is always watchin....
(but dont worry...i think you might LIKE jail-all those big, smelly men for you to cuddle might be just the change of pace you need)
I'm not saying I'm gonna hunt this guy down, just sayin if I were confronted with one of this psychos blasting off a gun, I'd rather have a way to defend myself. And yes, I do believe if I were in a situation where I was in a Wal Mart or mall, and someone was in the store shooting up the place, I would try and neutralize the threat as opposed to run out of the store... At least I'd like to think I would.umm...geez Ben, first you were worried about carryin a gun-now yer talkin bout doin drive-bys?
time to pop a prozac n chill a lil bit, big homie-life aint that serious...and if you do havta go that route, n dont have gun-who's to stop you from hitting the brakes or otherwise evading a shooter who appears out of the blue on the interstate??
dont use this as an excuse to carry a gun man, is all Im sayin.
If you wana roll strappd, thats your perogative, IMO...that whole CCL makes me giggle...getn a lic. to carry?? show po-po knows who to look for after the smoke dies down?? y not just write your address n home phone# on a post-it note n stick it on the body?
just for future reference bro-its NEVER self-defense if you get caught TALKIN about it before-hand...you go whack this cat on the interstate now, its pre-meditated, either murder or homicide. is that fair? mebbe not. but dont wana c u go down for a felony just from ranting...but thats what happens.
careful whatcha say Ben-tha 'man' is always watchin....
(but dont worry...i think you might LIKE jail-all those big, smelly men for you to cuddle might be just the change of pace you need)
Now, I'm not flaming you, but for those that don't understand and DO think this...
You make it sound like Concealed Carry License holders are cold blooded murderers... If you honestly think so, you are VERY poorly misinformed. A CCL holder is probably the most law abiding citizen you'll see. We're not the ones that will walk in somewhere, shoot it up, and walk out. Those are called Gang members... Or "gangsta's" as some call themselves. These are the people I want to be armed against. If they decide to shoot at me, I WILL shoot back, and I'm willing to bet that I WILL be a better shot. I go to the range just to practice drills of situations like this, just in case. You can never be too sure or too safe.
For more corrections to the misguidedness of the previous post, please refer to this...
Ten things non-gun people should know about CCW holders:
1. We don't carry firearms so that we can ignore other basics of personal safety. Every permit holder that I know realizes that almost all dangerous situations can be avoided by vigilance, alertness and by simply making wise choices about where one goes and what one does. We don't walk down dark alleys. We lock our cars. We don't get intoxicated in public or hang out around people who do. We park our cars in well lighted spots and don't hang out in bad parts of town where we have no business. A gun is our last resort, not our first.
2. We don't think we are cops, spies, or superheroes. We aren't hoping that somebody tries to rob the convenience store while we are there so we can shoot a criminal. We don't take it upon ourselves to get involved in situations that are better handled by a 911 call or by simply standing by and being a good witness. We don't believe our guns give us any authority over our fellow citizens. We also aren't here to be your unpaid volunteer bodyguard. We'll be glad to tell you where we trained and point you to some good gun shops if you feel you want to take this kind of responsibility for your personal safety. Except for extraordinary circumstances your business is your business, don't expect us to help you out of situations you could have avoided.
3. We are LESS likely, not more likely, to be involved in fights or "rage" incidents than the general public. We recognize, better than many unarmed citizens, that we are responsible for our actions. We take the responsibility of carrying a firearm very seriously. We know that loss of temper, getting into fights or angrily confronting someone after a traffic incident could easily escalate into a dangerous situation. We are more likely to go out of our way to avoid these situations. We don't pull our guns to settle arguments or to attempt to threaten people into doing what we want.
4. We are responsible gun owners. We secure our firearms so that children and other unauthorized people cannot access them. Most of us have invested in safes, cases and lock boxes as well as other security measures to keep our firearms secure. Many of us belong to various organizations that promote firearms safety and ownership.
5. Guns are not unsafe or unpredictable. Modern firearms are well made precision instruments. Pieces do not simply break off causing them to fire. A hot day will not set them off. Most modern firearms will not discharge even if dropped. There is no reason to be afraid of a gun simply lying on a table or in a holster. It is not going to discharge on its own.
6. We do not believe in the concept of "accidental discharges". There are no accidental discharges only negligent discharges or intentional discharges. We take responsibility for our actions and have learned how to safely handle firearms. Any case you have ever heard of about a gun "going off" was the result of negligence on somebody's part. Our recognition of our responsibility and familiarity with firearms makes us among the safest firearms owners in America.
7. Permit holders do their best to keep our concealed weapons exactly that: concealed. However, there are times when an observant fellow citizen may spot our firearm or the print of our firearm under our clothes. We are very cognizant that concerns about terrorism and crime are in the forefront of the minds of most citizens. We also realize that our society does much to condition our fellow citizens to have sometimes irrational fears about firearms. We would encourage citizens who do happen to spot someone carrying a firearm to use good judgment and clear thinking if they feel the need to take action. Please recognize that it's very uncommon for a criminal to use a holster. However, if you feel the need to report having spotted a firearm we would ask that you please be specific and detailed in your call to the police or in your report to a store manager or private security. Please don't generalize or sensationalize what you observed. Comments like "there's a guy running around in the store with a gun" or even simply "I saw a man with a gun in the store" could possibly cause a misunderstanding as to the true nature of the incident.
8. The fact that we carry a firearm to any given place does not mean that we believe that place to be inherently unsafe. If we believe a place to be unsafe, most of us would avoid that place all together if possible. However, we recognize that trouble could occur at any place and at any time. Criminals do not observe "gun free zones". If trouble does come, we do not want the only armed persons to be perpetrators. Therefore, we don't usually make a determination about whether or not to carry at any given time based on "how safe" we think a location is.
9. Concealed weapon permit holders are an asset to the public in times of trouble. The fact that most permit holders have the good judgment to stay out of situations better handled by a 911 call or by simply being a careful and vigilant witness does not mean that we would fail to act in situations where the use of deadly force is appropriate to save lives. Review of high profile public shooting incidents shows that when killers are confronted by armed resistance they tend to either break off the attack and flee or choose to end their own life. Lives are saved when resistance engages a violent criminal. Lives are lost when the criminal can do as he pleases.
10. The fact that criminals know that some of the population may be armed at any given time helps to deter violence against all citizens. Permit holders don't believe that every person should necessarily be armed. We recognize that some people may not be temperamentally suited to carry a firearm or simply may wish not to for personal reasons. However we do encourage you to respect our right to arm ourselves. Even if you choose not to carry a firearm yourself please oppose measures to limit the ability of law abiding citizens to be armed. As mentioned before: criminals do not observe "gun free zones". Help by not supporting laws that require citizens to be unarmed victims.
awww, Ben-dint mean to hurt your feewings
i wasnt flaming Conceald-carry peeps...I just think ya'll are silly gettin a lic. for that stuff-if the ONLY thing you're using it for is to shoot at someone else??? i wouldnt want anyone to know I had it
c'mon Ben-u know Big D dont leave evidence layin around for tha donut-munchers...it would just get covered in powdered sugar anyway, lol
do I need to come give you a big man-hug bro??? you seem a lil freakd about the whole thing with one guy shootin up one freeway-dont look at the news you'll go bananas!
i wasnt flaming Conceald-carry peeps...I just think ya'll are silly gettin a lic. for that stuff-if the ONLY thing you're using it for is to shoot at someone else??? i wouldnt want anyone to know I had it
c'mon Ben-u know Big D dont leave evidence layin around for tha donut-munchers...it would just get covered in powdered sugar anyway, lol
do I need to come give you a big man-hug bro??? you seem a lil freakd about the whole thing with one guy shootin up one freeway-dont look at the news you'll go bananas!
Not just the interstate... Wal Mart, The local bank by Wal Mart, Applebees by them... They think it was multiple shooters, and it might be gang initiation.awww, Ben-dint mean to hurt your feewings
i wasnt flaming Conceald-carry peeps...I just think ya'll are silly gettin a lic. for that stuff-if the ONLY thing you're using it for is to shoot at someone else??? i wouldnt want anyone to know I had it
c'mon Ben-u know Big D dont leave evidence layin around for tha donut-munchers...it would just get covered in powdered sugar anyway, lol
do I need to come give you a big man-hug bro??? you seem a lil freakd about the whole thing with one guy shootin up one freeway-dont look at the news you'll go bananas!
You didn't hurt my feelings at all, just wanted to inform you the reason why incase you didn't understand. I want to be legal, no matter what. If that means I have to apply for my CCL to carry concealed, so be it. I'm not gonna carry illegally and make other law abiding gun owners look bad.
Not sure on the bash, kinda doubtful...hey while Im here might was well thread-jack ya;
u guna be at the bash this year?
i wuz talkn to some buds about runnin down to Maxton SC May 17-19th for LSR racing, you be anywhere near there then?
hows tha scoot-shoppin goin?
k', thread-jack's over
Not gonna be anywhere near SC for a while.
Waiting on a Law enforcement (or possibly otherwise, but counting on it) job to get a scoot. So everything's kinda dependent on that.
Hot Rod Harv
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Two points.
1....If it IS concealable, in Mo. at least, (it is considered concealed; hidden, or out in the open)This varies by State.
2....If it is loaded, it is usually not legal to have in the front of the vehicle.
Most States do not allow you to carry a LOADED gun within the vehicle, here's the good part, within means within "easy" reach.(ie in the passenger compartment of the vehicle)
The ammo has to be it the trunk for it to be OK..That would do a lot of good if you needed it....
You might want to check your State laws, if you do it wrong, and get caught, it will usually be a felony and then you couldn't ever own a gun legally.
Best bet, Get your CCP first.
Hot Rod Harv
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Boy, we're lucky that no one here works for the Post Office....
That would open up a can of worms.
That would open up a can of worms.
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