Everyone has their riding styles, so different strokes fo different folks right? Here is mine, I LOVE the twisties, I have no chicken strips. My friends say I have been within 1" of scraping my exhaust on the ground. I don't do sport touring tires, this thread is about streetable performance tires. I do my best to ride fast and safe, it is a hard balance. I don't ride great wheelies, just on/off the throttle for fun. Also no track days for me, I wish, but no tracks on Okinawa.
I have been raving about my Michelin pilot sport HPXs to everyone, corners good, great traction, extra tread life, yada yada yada. I do love the way the tire handles, tho they take waaaay too long to warm up for my taste. They do loose traction occasionally, but is very predictable once they are warmed up. If cold, I don't attempt to wheelie, I'll just leave a nice 20-30 ft darkie on the road..
My point is that now I'm not too sure if they are worth the extra cash over a "less expensive, less treadlife tire."
I have put 3250 miles on my HPXs, and they are at the wearbars. So tonight I sat down and did some math.
***all tires are 120/70/17 and 190/50/17 ; costs are from dmtaonline or parts411***
HPX cost = 270 per set
sportech MI = 203 per set
D208ZR = 214 per set
BT010 = 196 per set
*not factoring in shipping, should be the same per tire.
*not factoring in labor, won't cost me anything.
As you can see, the HPXs are a bit more pricey, but I figured hey, they are getting a lot more treadlife...
So I broke it down..
3250 miles / 270 cost = 12 miles per dollar with the HPXs
so that means all I have to do is get 2436 (12x 203=2436)out of a set of sportech M1s to be doing better $$ wise. I think I might be able to do that. Word on the M1s is 2500-3000 range. I will probably fall closer to the 2500 mark the way I ride. But I figure I will give another tire a chance.
Supposedly the M1s warm up quicker are are a tad bit stickier. They are near the same profile as the pilots. I will try them unless someone has some better feedback on another tire...
D208s simply SUCK on Busas compared to the michelins, they have no corner turn in, they slipped consistently where the HPXs hold. Felt like I was driving a truck through the corner, not a sportbike. The only thing I liked about them is they warmed up quicker but... I WILL NOT make that mistake again. I know, I know some of you love them, so flame away if you must. BUT please don't flame unless you have tried other tires....
I have little info on the Pirellis/Avons.
Heard good things about some Bridgestones.. BT010s
Heard some bad, the BT56s suck on traction.. someone was saying that the D208s were way better than this tire, so it must be horrible.
I know, he heard, she heard, it's all relative. Lets gather some good info...
What I would like to know is...
What are your experiences with tire treadlife?
Please state your tire, riding style, mileage, your likes/dislikes about the tire and anything else that you feel is relevant. Maybe we can get some good info out on some of these tires.
You ever notice how magazines just "don't go there" when it comes to tires? Anyone got a Tire comparo in a mag? I've never seen on in a US mag. Too much competition/politics maybe? I dunno...
I have been raving about my Michelin pilot sport HPXs to everyone, corners good, great traction, extra tread life, yada yada yada. I do love the way the tire handles, tho they take waaaay too long to warm up for my taste. They do loose traction occasionally, but is very predictable once they are warmed up. If cold, I don't attempt to wheelie, I'll just leave a nice 20-30 ft darkie on the road..
My point is that now I'm not too sure if they are worth the extra cash over a "less expensive, less treadlife tire."
I have put 3250 miles on my HPXs, and they are at the wearbars. So tonight I sat down and did some math.
***all tires are 120/70/17 and 190/50/17 ; costs are from dmtaonline or parts411***
HPX cost = 270 per set
sportech MI = 203 per set
D208ZR = 214 per set
BT010 = 196 per set
*not factoring in shipping, should be the same per tire.
*not factoring in labor, won't cost me anything.
As you can see, the HPXs are a bit more pricey, but I figured hey, they are getting a lot more treadlife...
So I broke it down..
3250 miles / 270 cost = 12 miles per dollar with the HPXs
so that means all I have to do is get 2436 (12x 203=2436)out of a set of sportech M1s to be doing better $$ wise. I think I might be able to do that. Word on the M1s is 2500-3000 range. I will probably fall closer to the 2500 mark the way I ride. But I figure I will give another tire a chance.
Supposedly the M1s warm up quicker are are a tad bit stickier. They are near the same profile as the pilots. I will try them unless someone has some better feedback on another tire...
D208s simply SUCK on Busas compared to the michelins, they have no corner turn in, they slipped consistently where the HPXs hold. Felt like I was driving a truck through the corner, not a sportbike. The only thing I liked about them is they warmed up quicker but... I WILL NOT make that mistake again. I know, I know some of you love them, so flame away if you must. BUT please don't flame unless you have tried other tires....
I have little info on the Pirellis/Avons.
Heard good things about some Bridgestones.. BT010s
Heard some bad, the BT56s suck on traction.. someone was saying that the D208s were way better than this tire, so it must be horrible.
I know, he heard, she heard, it's all relative. Lets gather some good info...
What I would like to know is...
What are your experiences with tire treadlife?
Please state your tire, riding style, mileage, your likes/dislikes about the tire and anything else that you feel is relevant. Maybe we can get some good info out on some of these tires.
You ever notice how magazines just "don't go there" when it comes to tires? Anyone got a Tire comparo in a mag? I've never seen on in a US mag. Too much competition/politics maybe? I dunno...