I'm seeing a lot of action in the new and used exhaust system market 'round these parts lately and many ideologies, thoughts and expressions regarding such that simply don't wash.....with me....so please...if I express something here which you as a reader find offensive....please excuse my "shoot from the hip" editorial stylings as...that's just me...so without further adue?...here goes...
SLIP-ON/BOLT-ON VS FULL SYSTEMS:
I'm a huge advocate of Full Exhaust Systems over SO's and here's why....
Reason #1. Both will give your exhaust note a tune for the better but the equality (and I'm being nice there cause I ain't heard a S/O yet that sounds as good as a full system) ends there and where the S/O's end off?...The Full Systems pick up and run with advantages such as greatly diminished weight and a great big barn door to let ALL them ponies loose. So in essence?...there's really 3 good reasons here as the full systems typically a. sound better, b. weigh waaaaay less annnnd...c. put out more power.
Reason #2. Spending good money after bad sux almost as bad as 1/2 measures when it comes to exhaust systems and it's been my personal experience (1 time) that I ever bought a slip-on only to be dis-satisfied (for many of the reasons in reason #1 above) within a few months of mounting the S/O only to then purchase a full system and incurr all the "Re-tuning Costs" yet again which are consistant with such changes as you get to pay for proper tuning twice as well....end of story on that issue....and now onto...
WHAT TYPE OF FULL SYSTEM SHOULD I BUY?:
Basically there are 4 primary types of "full exhaust systems" out there which can be classified and defined as follows...
"Type #1. 4/1"and is my personal favorite for any "streetbike" as while it yeilds substancial power gains up top?...it still retains a strong low-range usually accompanied with vastly enhanced mid-range power as well...and imnsho?..all three are important power catagories for a street going bike.
"Type #2. 4/2/1" in my experience typically offers up optimum top-end but usually comes at the cost of a noticably huffier bottom-end in a robbed peter to pay paul scenario
"Type #3. 4/1/2 and/or? 4/2/1/2" imho is both cool looking but...silly from a performance (and cost) standpoint as while the duallies coming out the back "look cool"?...you probably paid far more and...got more...more weight...which in this rare case?..."more" is in fact...."less"..butcha still got to pay "more".
"Type #4. Drag Pipes/Sidewinder/Megaphone" Purpose built indeed...but....for one purpose...one...single purpose...but what they do they typically do extremely well when properly tuned however....not for me...I like to lean to the right every now and then.
MANUFACTURERS & MATERIALS:
At one time in my life I took direct issue with Yoshimura regarding this very topic as some internet viewers (Fellow FZ1OA Bretheren) took notice and made comment at how crappy looking my head pipes appeared...and they were correct...my yosh headpipes were in fact all stained up...after just less than a year of use...despite that I myself had mounted them and took extreme care in completely and thouroughly wiping them down with isopropyl alcohol before the first fire-up...and they looked great for about 6 months and then the staining gradually began to appear..deep staining...and me being a lifelong machinist/fabricator by trade I consulted a thermal engineer/metalurgy specialist at my place of employment who identified the staining as..."Carbon Precipitation"...which occurs in the lower grade 300 series stainless steels such as the 316 which yosh uses...emails rained into yosh....yosh execs called me...bragged about how many systems they manufacture and sell each month and then offered me a free replacement system which arrived to my home overnight...and guess what happened to the 2nd free system less than a year later?....you got it..."Carbon Precipitation Staining Of The Headpipes"...and what I can't understand is why a huge multi-million dollar corp. like yosh gives their consumers 316SS while poor little old Rob Muzzy pumps out SS systems made of 347 grade SS...as I had one of his megaphones on my old ZRX1100 for a couple years and 20,000+ miles and while it turned this pretty Straw/Gold color?...it NEVER showed the first little sign of any carbon precipitation staining....anywhere on the full meg system...like my one expensive and one free yosh's did and both in less than a years time and under 10,000 miles each.
I liked yosh...as they are synonimous with Suzuki Racing...however...my next system will be Ti and I'd never recommend anyone purchase a system made of anything less than 347SS....not if you intend to keep it a while and want it to stay asthetically pleasing as the 316SS didn't cut it for me....twice in a row at that.
Jap Arata Ti and Ti-Force systems are top shelf systems with automatic weld joints and incorporate tapered headpipes to salvage as much low-mid as possible as does Akro however the Akro's large bore pipe seems heavy breather down low but does yeild stupendouse top-end numbers....I like Brock but don't much care for hindle or the pricing...hindles used to be comparitively cheap systems but Brock seems to have taken them into uncharted territory in both power and price...unfortunately?...the two walk hand in hand....but all four of these particular brands (arata, ti-force, akro and brock/hindle) are located high up on the top shelf....in gold bound glass cases...on red velvet...with matching price tags.
so there ya have it folks...I just talked myself into a Muzzy Full System
...Ti with a CF Oval Cannister...now...who's got the best price?
L8R, Bill.
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SLIP-ON/BOLT-ON VS FULL SYSTEMS:
I'm a huge advocate of Full Exhaust Systems over SO's and here's why....
Reason #1. Both will give your exhaust note a tune for the better but the equality (and I'm being nice there cause I ain't heard a S/O yet that sounds as good as a full system) ends there and where the S/O's end off?...The Full Systems pick up and run with advantages such as greatly diminished weight and a great big barn door to let ALL them ponies loose. So in essence?...there's really 3 good reasons here as the full systems typically a. sound better, b. weigh waaaaay less annnnd...c. put out more power.
Reason #2. Spending good money after bad sux almost as bad as 1/2 measures when it comes to exhaust systems and it's been my personal experience (1 time) that I ever bought a slip-on only to be dis-satisfied (for many of the reasons in reason #1 above) within a few months of mounting the S/O only to then purchase a full system and incurr all the "Re-tuning Costs" yet again which are consistant with such changes as you get to pay for proper tuning twice as well....end of story on that issue....and now onto...
WHAT TYPE OF FULL SYSTEM SHOULD I BUY?:
Basically there are 4 primary types of "full exhaust systems" out there which can be classified and defined as follows...
"Type #1. 4/1"and is my personal favorite for any "streetbike" as while it yeilds substancial power gains up top?...it still retains a strong low-range usually accompanied with vastly enhanced mid-range power as well...and imnsho?..all three are important power catagories for a street going bike.
"Type #2. 4/2/1" in my experience typically offers up optimum top-end but usually comes at the cost of a noticably huffier bottom-end in a robbed peter to pay paul scenario
"Type #3. 4/1/2 and/or? 4/2/1/2" imho is both cool looking but...silly from a performance (and cost) standpoint as while the duallies coming out the back "look cool"?...you probably paid far more and...got more...more weight...which in this rare case?..."more" is in fact...."less"..butcha still got to pay "more".
"Type #4. Drag Pipes/Sidewinder/Megaphone" Purpose built indeed...but....for one purpose...one...single purpose...but what they do they typically do extremely well when properly tuned however....not for me...I like to lean to the right every now and then.
MANUFACTURERS & MATERIALS:
At one time in my life I took direct issue with Yoshimura regarding this very topic as some internet viewers (Fellow FZ1OA Bretheren) took notice and made comment at how crappy looking my head pipes appeared...and they were correct...my yosh headpipes were in fact all stained up...after just less than a year of use...despite that I myself had mounted them and took extreme care in completely and thouroughly wiping them down with isopropyl alcohol before the first fire-up...and they looked great for about 6 months and then the staining gradually began to appear..deep staining...and me being a lifelong machinist/fabricator by trade I consulted a thermal engineer/metalurgy specialist at my place of employment who identified the staining as..."Carbon Precipitation"...which occurs in the lower grade 300 series stainless steels such as the 316 which yosh uses...emails rained into yosh....yosh execs called me...bragged about how many systems they manufacture and sell each month and then offered me a free replacement system which arrived to my home overnight...and guess what happened to the 2nd free system less than a year later?....you got it..."Carbon Precipitation Staining Of The Headpipes"...and what I can't understand is why a huge multi-million dollar corp. like yosh gives their consumers 316SS while poor little old Rob Muzzy pumps out SS systems made of 347 grade SS...as I had one of his megaphones on my old ZRX1100 for a couple years and 20,000+ miles and while it turned this pretty Straw/Gold color?...it NEVER showed the first little sign of any carbon precipitation staining....anywhere on the full meg system...like my one expensive and one free yosh's did and both in less than a years time and under 10,000 miles each.
I liked yosh...as they are synonimous with Suzuki Racing...however...my next system will be Ti and I'd never recommend anyone purchase a system made of anything less than 347SS....not if you intend to keep it a while and want it to stay asthetically pleasing as the 316SS didn't cut it for me....twice in a row at that.
Jap Arata Ti and Ti-Force systems are top shelf systems with automatic weld joints and incorporate tapered headpipes to salvage as much low-mid as possible as does Akro however the Akro's large bore pipe seems heavy breather down low but does yeild stupendouse top-end numbers....I like Brock but don't much care for hindle or the pricing...hindles used to be comparitively cheap systems but Brock seems to have taken them into uncharted territory in both power and price...unfortunately?...the two walk hand in hand....but all four of these particular brands (arata, ti-force, akro and brock/hindle) are located high up on the top shelf....in gold bound glass cases...on red velvet...with matching price tags.
so there ya have it folks...I just talked myself into a Muzzy Full System
L8R, Bill.
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