Most common motorcycle accident

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Driving here in CO and on the highway doing 160 on way to the Erie exit. (Erie exit goes towards boulder)

I hit the exit and hang left to approach boulder. I am kind of a paranoid driver most of the time, so I drive the speed limit almost always OFF the highway or streets where I could have intersection collisions...

So... naturally I was driving the speed limit going down this long wide open stretch of road that I could have been doing VERY high speeds. The only gotcha to this road is the frequent intersections, no stop lights, along the way.

I am coming down a large hill doing 50 and I see a GMC suburban on one of the side streets wanting to make a left accross my lane. As I approach the GMC, I notice that this broad isn't even looking my way. She is waiting for oncoming traffic to pass so that she can make her turn. I am close enough to her when she decided to pull out in front of me that I can see her clearly in her truck. I hit the brakes; (I have steel braided lines/ HH pads) I had to hit them hard because I was so close to the intersection when she wanted to pull out. The front wheel starts to skid, I let go of the brakes, and squeeze hard again, the front tire starts to skid again...

At this point, I know that I am going to hit her if she doesn't look back and see me anytime soon. She finally looked back and at the point I was a few feet from her front driver's fender and I have shaved speed down to probably 20. She hits the breaks and I manage to swerve around her front bumper just to avoid the collision...

It happened so fast and so close to the intersection, all I had time was to hit the brakes. I couldn't rev the engine, or hit the horn, or nothing else for that matter; there was NO time.

All I could think about is the statistics that they tought us in Moto. school. (This is the most typical accident for motorcycles and that if I could get below 20 before I had the collision, I had a good chance of suriviving...)

Everything worked out luckily, but I was so close to wrecking, I pulled over to think about it. The lesson I came away learning is to take it slow, real SLOW, when approaching those situations. I would have plenty of time to break, if I had started earlier, but I didn't... I assumed she would see me eventually or had seen me... Guess I was wrong and it definetly would have cost me my "well being" for sure if I was traveling at high speeds like I could have been. Imagine if I was doing 100+ and had to the hit the brakes at the same point. I would have been road kill and not typing this today.

Watch the speed boys and girls; when there is the possiblity of cars turning in front of you on side streets, even if it is a highway, etc... Remeber, most cyclists die in collisions. You can generally even be traveling at high speeds and wreck and survive, as long as you can avoid a collision with a hard object. I was wearing ALL of my gear that day...

Cloud
 
no offense... but if you had been expecting her to do it... you would have already been on the brakes before she even started doing it.

glad you made it...

expect people to do the worst possible thing when you least expect it.. especially when it's that obvious that it could man.

knock on wood... but normally I'm already on the brakes and just waiting on them to pull across when sure enough... BAM.. there they go.. thats just part of the motorcycle danger
 
That is the situation that occures everytime go riding. I have a tendency to aim for the back of the Car to go around it's back. Counting on them to continue their Pull out right infront of me A-hole turn
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As soon as u seen her, did u have your 2 front fingers over your front brake lever?  
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Be honest.



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WOW! Harrowing experience!! I agree: always assume the other driver will do the worst and you won't be let down ;) Glad you made it. That stuff COULD happen every ride I'm on but I usually predict&avoid it. Sounds like you did what you could under bad circumstances.
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WWJD has it nailed. When folks ask how I've survived 35 year on fast motorcycles my reply is:

1) I always assume they don't see me
2) I always assume they WILL PULL OUT IN FRONT
3) I always slow down at intersections, flash brights and cover my brakes at intersections
4) lightning fast reflexes helps.

remember to assume the worst. You are a pro, you know these things. Cloud...glad you are okay....now go and sin thou no more...
 
I used to get really pissed when someone pulls out in front of me.
But usually I am speeding a bit.

I found it is not always the other guys fault pulling out in front of me if I am driving faster than I should be....

It is hard enough to judge the amount of time needed to pull out but that is changed when someone is speeding.

I still speed.

But now don’t get so pissed when it is partly my fault.

Glad to see you are ok.
(Should have pulled an endo to impress anyone on the sidewalk that would have been sweet!....JK)
 
yea, I have been tought to look out for these types of accidents all the time and I do... There was just one problem with this scenario... I hadn't been through it before, so when the poop hit the fan, I wasn't sure weather to beep horn, rev engine, hit brakes, or whatever...
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I will be better prepared the next time. I also think I am invisible like someone suggested, but short of stopping to see if they are going to go, I figured I would keep going at the speed limit and I did have the fingers on the brake
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, it was just too late to brake at the speed I was braking at. I should have slowed seeing the truck to begin with...

Cloud
 
Thanks for sharing your story. It's always a good learning tool to hear about these close calls and the most important thing is you didn't get hurt!
 
Glad you made it through safely...it definitely could have been worse. Perhaps it's time to become a bit more defensive as a rider...
 
Glad it all worked out okay.
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I've gotten used to riding with my two fingers over both the clutch AND brake whenever I'm in med-heavy traffic. It definitely comes in handy. If you ride like everyone is trying to kill you, then you have a pretty good chance of avoiding most situations.

Be carefull out there
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Thanks for sharing your story. It's always a good learning tool to hear about these close calls and the most important thing is you didn't get hurt!
yea, that is why I posted it. I have learned so much about riding from others and if I can help other riders, I will...

Congrats on the 1000th post!
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Cloud
 
as they teach in school....practice using BOTH brakes at the same time, every time so it's a habit.Flashing your brights at intersections is pretty much telling other people "go ahead". I have a dragster style parachute for high speed braking.$38.50 at walmart.:p
 
Four fingers on the brake fellas... Two fingers is for on the race track. The only reason to use two fingers is to maintain throttle for blipping between downshifts.

Sorry for the soap box, but I am an MSF instructor now...

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That was a good lesson learned and walked away from... Way to keep your cool and immediately let off front to stop skid. Acting like a practiced rider will save your skin many times!

Be careful out there you clowns!

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The Florida Motorcycle Handbook states that you always assume that other drivers can't/won't see you, even if they're looking directly at you. I'm glad you walked away from this one. Be careful out there.
 
Glad you and your bike survived to tell the tale...

I've been riding for over 30 years and like most bikers have had a few close shaves myself... What have I learned is to treat all other road-users like blind idiots that would take me out whilst staring straight at me...TRUST NOBODY EXCEPT YOURSELF !!

Works for me ...
 
my brother told me he pretty much witnessed a bike get nailed by an escalade the yesterday. i guess the escalade turned onto the frontage road as the bike was coming by and never saw the bike and went right into him. my brother said the rider lost his leg below his knee.. it was laying a little ways away. dont know how the rider faired besides his leg.. im guessing it got severed when the escalade hit him. he was wearing jeans and tennis shoes. he cant remember if the guy was wearing a helmet, but from riding out there I doubt he did.. very few do wear helmets out there.. my brother said all he remembers is seeing the shoe with the leg still in it and blood everywhere.

so people watch it out there.. and assume every 4 wheeler will cut u off, turn into u or whatever.. its to bad it happened to the rider. can only speculate he wasnt watching that way or somethin.. this happened in Urbandale Iowa..

WWJD did u hear about it?? it happened about 4:30 yesterday..
 
Well Glad to hear you made past it alright Cloud and thanks for sharing alotta people always need a wake up reminder like this at times
 
Four fingers on the brake fellas...  Two fingers is for on the race track.  The only reason to use two fingers is to maintain throttle for blipping between downshifts.

Sorry for the soap box, but I am an MSF instructor now...

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That was a good lesson learned and walked away from...  Way to keep your cool and immediately let off front to stop skid.  Acting like a practiced rider will save your skin many times!

Be careful out there you clowns!

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WRONG WRONG WRONG, I veto! I disagree, Bad Idea...  WRONG, OUtdated OLD SCHOOL IDEA...

Here's why, If you have four fingers covering that front your going to screw yourself in a true panic stop.  You reflexively grab for the front with two fingers your chances of locking that front before it is properly loaded are minimal.  With the strength of modern Disc brakes you never need four fingers anyway, it's an outmoded concept having four fingers on your brake.  What for?  It doesn't give you better feel, it just makes it more difficult to modulate, especially in a "Panic" emergancy stop.  I can lock the front or stoppie, even the Busa with just two fingers why use more?  

I understand the idea of using front and rear brakes together, though I still think it's of little value on a sportbike, but this whole four finger Clutch, four finger brake chant is dookie!

MSF wrote those guidlines a LOOONG time ago, when brakes we're much crappier and most folks were riding standards or cruiser type bikes.  Last time I was on a Harley you bet I had four fingers on the front cause it took four to get any stopping done.  Not the case with a modern sport bike...  Not at all..  MSF needs to catch up a little or create a seperate set of training materials for "Sport Bikes Only", with some slightly less dated concepts...



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Something else I do in traffic is as I come up to an intersection with folks waiting to kill me, I will slow or speed up so when I am in the intersection I have at least one vehicle right next to me. I always try to take an escort through busy intersections, so yeah I'll speed up or slow down as needed to be just off the hood of a car or truck next to me. Works like a charm, they may not register your being there when waiting to turn, but by golly they see the SUV your now next to...

Also, if I am alone and approaching an intersection and there isn't way to pull an escort? I will do some quick transitional weaving, crank it back and forth in my lane a few times, that tends to really attract their attention cause it's weird, un-car like behavior. Also I ride all daylight hours with my high beam a blazing away...

Be careful flashing your brights, I have noticed that a lot of folks seem to think this means go ahead, pull out in front of me. Finally, your safety is 100% in your hands. In traffic, in town, at intersections etc, it's all up to you and where your head is at and what you are watching. Keep your head up, be watching 3-4 blocks ahead, anticipate what the bastards are going to do or want to do and take action, be aggressively defensive. Sometimes being aggressive will save your ass better than any other option. Look for the openings, shoot for them, keep your head up and pay attention...

Oh and practice, I Mean REALLY PRACTICE your panic braking, your quick swerve technique, and using the throttle like you mean it. That way you will almost NEVER get caught flatfooted...



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