May 1st 2025 Hayabusa.oRg going offline for good

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I subscribe to TV streaming services for content
I subscribe to a few news papers for my daily paper over brekky with coffee in the morning
I subscribe to a local Bike forum to support it as it's relevant for local happenings
I subscribe to a music streaming platform because I love music and I use it when I ride

I am happy to pay for what I use - life and 95% of the things I enjoy have never been free and I pay as required.
It would be interesting to see feasibility on an add free funding model. Anyone that says 'adds don't work on me' dose not understand modern influence methods and techniques.

My personal opinion is that the post Bernays advertising / influencing ecosystem has become so supply side asymmetric the whole paradigm needs tearing down and re-written for demand side sanity. It is some how legal to intentionally change someone else's personal values, preferences and beliefs without their consent and these days, without the targets knowledge. This is otherwise known as home invasion, theft and rearrangement of the mind, an attack on our cognitive liberty and private intellectual property, a perversion of the first amendment, in violation of the 5th and the 14th and ultimately net negative for societies and individuals writ large. It is illegal to trade in peoples physical bodies and liberties but somehow not to do the same with hearts and minds..

Maybe we should only allow adds from within the org community and it's sponsors and kick the dark lords like Google et al. out..?

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As I read all these posts, I'm reminded of a person going over a cliff and grasping at whatever they can so they don't fall yet falling anyway...

@captain was very articulate and has said his piece.......the .Org will cease to exist on May 1st...

I personally don't relish this fact but have grown to accept it......

I suggest we all prepare ourselves for this reality as well.......

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If any of you guys are passing through the Vancouver, WA area, I'm LC4Carl on everything.

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As I read all these posts, I'm reminded of a person going over a cliff and grasping at whatever they can so they don't fall yet falling anyway...

@captain was very articulate and has said his piece.......the .Org will cease to exist on May 1st...

I personally don't relish this fact but have grown to accept it......

I suggest we all prepare ourselves for this reality as well.......
Bee, prepare for the worst and work hard for the best of course however I don't think your framing is correct / complete. What we are seeing for sure is how each of us individually and as a group respond to a challenge / tough odds.

We haven't given up, we are still working on finding solutions and I have been in contact with the admins & mods for alternate ideas and experiences (Most of them are IT folks too which was one reason they were admins in the first place).

We’re all digging in to the reasons for the drop in revenue. Omar’s found something and shared it with Captain that might help fix the issue -

It’s clear that whatever Google changed, it is not transparent and that’s infuriating for sites like ours.

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Bee, prepare for the worst and work hard for the best of course however I don't think your framing is correct / complete. What we are seeing for sure is how each of us individually and as a group respond to a challenge / tough odds.
I prepare for the worst and don't expect the best.......if it comes, that's great, if it doesn't I prepare to move forward....

I don't set myself up for disappointment this way....

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I prepare for the worst and don't expect the best.......if it comes, that's great, if it doesn't I prepare to move forward....

I don't set myself up for disappointment this way....

Of course, expectation is a killer isn't it mate. I went the exposure therapy route by deliberately engaging in high stakes competitive activities that I knew nothing about and found a type of salvation through suffering. The ultimate goal being to being able to be free to 'ganbatte' especially when all hope is lost.

There is another elephant in the room that might be underlying this and that is decline. One of the number one causes of suicide in middle aged men is the loss or decline of status. Status is actually a vital component of the social fabric and in times gone by would determine if the tribe would help you if you got sick, forgive you if you made a mistake or leave you behind..

It is commonly divided into three types:
Dominance (using fear and control)
Competence (being very good at something of value to a group)
Virtue (demonstrating consistent values when tested)

Status games get a bad wrap because people conflate it with the first type. While the last two add a lot to developed societies. (The first one is the best for survival in Somalia or Libya.) Fast cars, bikes, boats and planes fall into the second.

So what does this have to do with the org? Well it is probably no surprise that the heyday for this community was when the Gen 2 reigned over all. Now Gen 3s get beaten by random naked bike in roll races and every new sports bike is over 200hp.

The marque still carries some esteem but it is definitely waning.

One of life's great lessons is learning to deal with failure and also learning to let ones self loose for the win. Likewise learning to deal with decline and loss of status is as valuable and meaningful and the lessons in failure and loss. We all eventually grow old, hopefully, some what disgracefully ;)

Suicide or enjoy the ride? Personally I choose the latter, along with throwing everything I can at a Gen 3 to try get the best of both worlds. (And still get overtaken on the track by 600s! :)

Personally I love this place and I love the Hyper bikes. They can tour and track (fit me) and to my mind look right (unlike all of the 'adv' bikes out there)
We are putting together a stand at the upcoming annual Auckland motorcycle show with an anthology for just the hyper bikes starting with a 1998 Gen 1 carby Blackbird, through to the Gen 3 Hirebus and the ZX14R SE, should tell quite a story, just like this place.

Ganbatte!

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Of course, expectation is a killer isn't it mate. I went the exposure therapy route by deliberately engaging in high stakes competitive activities that I knew nothing about and found a type of salvation through suffering. The ultimate goal being to being able to be free to 'ganbatte' especially when all hope is lost.

There is another elephant in the room that might be underlying this and that is decline. One of the number one causes of suicide in middle aged men is the loss or decline of status. Status is actually a vital component of the social fabric and in times gone by would determine if the tribe would help you if you got sick, forgive you if you made a mistake or leave you behind..

It is commonly divided into three types:
Dominance (using fear and control)
Competence (being very good at something of value to a group)
Virtue (demonstrating consistent values when tested)

Status games get a bad wrap because people conflate it with the first type. While the last two add a lot to developed societies. (The first one is the best for survival in Somalia or Libya.) Fast cars, bikes, boats and planes fall into the second.

So what does this have to do with the org? Well it is probably no surprise that the heyday for this community was when the Gen 2 reigned over all. Now Gen 3s get beaten by random naked bike in roll races and every new sports bike is over 200hp.

The marque still carries some esteem but it is definitely waning.

One of life's great lessons is learning to deal with failure and also learning to let ones self loose for the win. Likewise learning to deal with decline and loss of status is as valuable and meaningful and the lessons in failure and loss. We all eventually grow old, hopefully, some what disgracefully ;)

Suicide or enjoy the ride? Personally I choose the latter, along with throwing everything I can at a Gen 3 to try get the best of both worlds. (And still get overtaken on the track by 600s! :)

Personally I love this place and I love the Hyper bikes. They can tour and track (fit me) and to my mind look right (unlike all of the 'adv' bikes out there)
We are putting together a stand at the upcoming annual Auckland motorcycle show with an anthology for just the hyper bikes starting with a 1998 Gen 1 carby Blackbird, through to the Gen 3 Hirebus and the ZX14R SE, should tell quite a story, just like this place.

Ganbatte!

Wow! Deep thoughts.

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That day Vman1300, whom is among the members God took way too soon, and I were contemplating a sauce to roast Vab's Planks in. Some even speculated they were large enough to feed all the attendees at the Bash that year.


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And this is what I got for my recommendation.
GOOD TIMES, GREAT PEOPLE!

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That day Vman1300, whom is among the members God took way too soon, and I were contemplating a sauce to roast Vab's Planks in. Some even speculated they were large enough to feed all the attendees at the Bash that year.


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And this is what I got for my recommendation.
GOOD TIMES, GREAT PEOPLE!
Laugh it up! What wasn't mentioned is that VMAN was in complete awe of just how many miles I managed to get from that rear tire. :poke::p

And, I finally figured out things like "leaning". I go through tires on my BMW r-nine-t and hang with the best of 'em. Just took me longer...

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Well poop balls, I didn't notice that the forum is shutting down. I see some people are going to Hayabusa.org on Facebook? Is this something you all are doing? I don't want to join the other hayabusa forum, it doesn't feel the same. I don't get on here much, but when I do I know one of you all will let me know what I screwed up on and get me on the right path. I hope the same thing doesn't happen to my Goldwing forum GL1800RIDERS.COM. I don't think I could handle losing both of my forums.

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I see some people are going to Hayabusa.org on Facebook? Is this something you all are doing?

Not everyone. Some are not on social media, hate it, and are abandoning the Internet ship. There are though some of the members who know their stuff joining the Facebook group. There is hope for us to continue getting great support over there.
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