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A t/c unit on a turbo bike will be very interesting. I hope it'll allow control of ignition timing, ignition & fuel cut, and wastegate pressure in the least.
Is the t/c unit being used as a crutch/safety factor for poor boost control mapping in the AMS1000? No plans on using the AMS2000?
The project seems basic enough. Stage2 for fun and street friendly shouldn't be hard to accomplish. Keep the clutch and suspension setup friendly and the bike can be a well rounded package. Just swap street gas for race gas and flip the map from mild to wild.
What are the goals/predictions for the 1/4 et and stand mile? (low 8's & 230mph?)
I would really look into the ECU editor "stuff" it can do a whole lot of things. I'm sure you do have some restrictions because of sponsor and such which might not make it feasable.
Is the t/c unit being used as a crutch/safety factor for poor boost control mapping in the AMS1000? No plans on using the AMS2000?
The project seems basic enough. Stage2 for fun and street friendly shouldn't be hard to accomplish. Keep the clutch and suspension setup friendly and the bike can be a well rounded package. Just swap street gas for race gas and flip the map from mild to wild.
What are the goals/predictions for the 1/4 et and stand mile? (low 8's & 230mph?)
I would really look into the ECU editor "stuff" it can do a whole lot of things. I'm sure you do have some restrictions because of sponsor and such which might not make it feasable.
I look forward to seeing your bike and the accompanying article.
As one of the Stage 1 guys , I have been living with My 05 Hahn Stage 1 going on 6 years and 5 with the Port Fueler Kit from Hahn. I have just about 20k on it and is my primary commuter. My bike is a bit of sleeper in that is appears very close to stock Of course I have upgraded the bakes a bit and re-sprung it for a guy my size.
This year I am adding a Gen 2 crank to the picture , with the idea of having more torque down low before the boost is built and with the added benefit of the extra volume of gasses spinning the turbo up that much quicker.
A all boosted busa Issue would sell big with many of us!
As one of the Stage 1 guys , I have been living with My 05 Hahn Stage 1 going on 6 years and 5 with the Port Fueler Kit from Hahn. I have just about 20k on it and is my primary commuter. My bike is a bit of sleeper in that is appears very close to stock Of course I have upgraded the bakes a bit and re-sprung it for a guy my size.
This year I am adding a Gen 2 crank to the picture , with the idea of having more torque down low before the boost is built and with the added benefit of the extra volume of gasses spinning the turbo up that much quicker.
A all boosted busa Issue would sell big with many of us!
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A t/c unit on a turbo bike will be very interesting. I hope it'll allow control of ignition timing, ignition & fuel cut, and wastegate pressure in the least.
Is the t/c unit being used as a crutch/safety factor for poor boost control mapping in the AMS1000? No plans on using the AMS2000?
The project seems basic enough. Stage2 for fun and street friendly shouldn't be hard to accomplish. Keep the clutch and suspension setup friendly and the bike can be a well rounded package. Just swap street gas for race gas and flip the map from mild to wild.
What are the goals/predictions for the 1/4 et and stand mile? (low 8's & 230mph?)
I would really look into the ECU editor "stuff" it can do a whole lot of things. I'm sure you do have some restrictions because of sponsor and such which might not make it feasable.
The Bazzaz t/c is sort of an experiment.
You hit it exactly: pump gas for the street tune, race gas for track. If it's not into the 7.90s I'd be disappointed, and somewhere in the 230 range I'd hope.
since I don't know if track tests are going to be jockey or 240+ suited rider I didn't want to be over optomistic on the numbers. 
Your project should be a fun bike when it's complete.
If it's a regular experienced rider it would be great to see them coached by an expert busa drag racer and then by an expert busa landspeed racer (Bill Warner). Maybe compare their race bikes vs. the street package you've built to show the difference between a street setup and a race setup.
Your project should be a fun bike when it's complete. If it's a regular experienced rider it would be great to see them coached by an expert busa drag racer and then by an expert busa landspeed racer (Bill Warner). Maybe compare their race bikes vs. the street package you've built to show the difference between a street setup and a race setup.
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since I don't know if track tests are going to be jockey or 240+ suited rider I didn't want to be over optomistic on the numbers.
If it's a regular experienced rider it would be great to see them coached by an expert busa drag racer and then by an expert busa landspeed racer (Bill Warner). Maybe compare their race bikes vs. the street package you've built to show the difference between a street setup and a race setup.
D'oh...I'm 240 before suiting up, so my numbers certainly won't be what I expect from a jockey.
I like your ideas about comparing purpose built bikes (drag and LSR) to the "all-rounder" I'm trying to build!
The Super Street cover bike for January 2011 was from POWERHOUSE. It is a GSXR1000, single-sided arm, Gator glass, big tire, yada, yada, yada. Very nice bike, and a good write up. I would have liked Super Streetbike magazine to cover more of the technical features and performance numbers, instead of taking a bunch of pretty pictures and putting some girl on the bike. With what you are considering, it would be a shame if the magazine didn't get into the technical side of the build . . .
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The Super Street cover bike for January 2011 was from POWERHOUSE. It is a GSXR1000, single-sided arm, Gator glass, big tire, yada, yada, yada. Very nice bike, and a good write up. I would have liked Super Streetbike magazine to cover more of the technical features and performance numbers, instead of taking a bunch of pretty pictures and putting some girl on the bike. With what you are considering, it would be a shame if the magazine didn't get into the technical side of the build . . .
We'd love to focus in on the performance aspects more than the aesthetics, but that bike has a single sided 30,000mm rear, singe front rotor, etc.
To highlight the performance is sort of ironic when he's done everything to the rest of the bike to ruin the performance. Keep me posted on all-out performance builds!
I don't disagree with what you are saying, however, its actually the other way around. The customer went with the big tire and then realized his performance needed upgrading - hence, a turbo. And it is not uncommon for many turbo bikes to have big tires, although again, it goes against the performance aspect of a particular build.
And I am not saying that you should focus on the performance aspect more than the aesthetics, or vice versa. I am saying the article should focus on the entire build - I look forward to seeing your article, and I hope you guys do just that!
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240s are great, but anything larger is a little silly IMO. Does Bill run a 240 BST?
I believe he does. I can't get any pics because they are at home but surely someone has a pic of it.
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I would think the AMS1000 would be more than enough over the Bazzaz T/C but it will be great to see the testing results...
Yep he did run the Carrozzeria wheels, but now runs the BST's 240 rear...
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