United Empire of America....

[GA_boi]

Unfortunately, the answer is no. As long as there are people and groups in the work that are not tolerant to beliefs and ideologies of others, conflict and war will be a reality. The United States has not gone to war to expand our territories or force our beliefs on others. We have gone to war to prevent others from taking those things from us.

well said

 

[J'Man]

Okay dude. Take some history classes and tell me which country has succceeded in occupying Afghanistan. Now shift back to more current events and tell me how many of the hijackers were Iraqi nationals. So ya, the war is un-winnable, and invading Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.
It's cool bro, keep drinking the kool-aid

I don't believe I said any of the hijackers were Iraqi nationals, but good try on twisting my words. We are in Afghanistan to do a job, not stay and occupy the county.

This is getting boring, but I'll try to get my point across one more time. It doesn't matter what you think of the war, why you think we should or should not be there, or how much more we will be spending on it, because neither you nor I am in control of White house policy. Even your left leaning prez apparently hasn't deemed the war "unwinnable" yet so we are going to continue to pump money into it. If that makes you unhappy, send him a note. With this in mind, we can't afford to spend even more money on government run Health care.

Good night everyone! I'm going to have some Kool-aid and go to bed. I think there was another thread somewhere on here about the different flavors you could mixed together. Cool!

 

[Justyntym]

Memo to U.S. Government....YOUR BROKE, STOP SPENDING AND STICK
A TRILLION DOLLAR HEALTHCARE UP YOUR...

It's simple...no new programs
NONE
Stop spending
Stop spending
Stop spending
Stop spending

oh yeah...
and stop spending.

IDIOTS

Ya know even if it were a good idea (which it isn't), even if stealing money
from me and my kids to the tune of $1500 a month so the worthless can have
some more freebee crap...even if it were a good idea...despite the fact we
are in a huge economic crisis in which individually we all need every dime
we can get....even if it were a good idea....THEY HAVE NO MONEY FOR IT.
:wtf: is the world devoid of even the smallest smidgen of common sense.

 

[proud dad]

:stirpot:

 

[Bosshound]

The bible states that these things will take place. War is mans ways of solving issues. We declare war on drugs. War against gangs. War with each other. You name it, we have a war on it or against it. There will always be war until the return of Christ.

More than You Know My Friend.............More Than You Know !!!!!

+1

lease:

 

[TruWrecks]

We are in Afghanistan to do a job, not stay and occupy the county.

And what exactly is that job?

I know we are in Iraq because going after Sadam was G.W.B's personal vendetta for his daddy's failure in 1991. The never were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq until the US Army rolled in there and setup camp with their own supply.

As long as greedy power mongers are alive, we will have humans being oppressed and killed by other humans.

 

[afterhours]

war is a natural state.....

is it a coincidence that even the most primitve people have gods of "war".

 

[Projekt]

And Projekt doesn't mind the thread jack. He loves the drama....

Who me?

 

[tclause]

Nope

 

[dadofthree]

We either fight them on their home turf or let them bring the fight to us.

 

[outlawbusa]

Not all roads connect, so they have Country Rage~!~

 

[MET]

As long as there are different world politics and different religions there will be wars. Always in the name of humanity and who speaks for god. You just have to shake your head. We never seem to learn from history. i think even if we could change history we would change it the same way time after time.

 

[Projekt]

war is a natural state.....

is it a coincidence that even the most primitive people have gods of "war".

That is a very interesting statement. I suppose we can draw the conclusion that humanity still has a ways to go before we are considered advanced.

 

[Dino]

Seriously?
Our government is mortgaging our future, just as they always have. It's called a defecit.
What's sadly amusing is all the objection to health care reform, which supposedly will bankrupt future generations.
This just in: They are already screwed because they gotta pay for this war!
"Govenment in charge of healthcare = socialism" scream the conservatives. WTF do they think overpaying for under-performing military contracts is?
Oh and trust me the UK is broke as well...

Let me just say this as it is a pet peeve. There is government oversight on every government contract. Both in terms of a contracting officer and program manager, it the contractor is not producing the PM knows it and if they do nothing about it then the blame is theirs. Gov contractors will perform to expectations managed by gov guy in charge so if anything is broke it is the management of the program, not the contractors.

 

[Dino]

Lets give it a name.. The UEA seems most fitting. I know many people have thought about it but, after a quick google search, I'll take credit for coining the term "The United Empire of America".

This line of thinking has simmered within my psyche with added vigor, most recently after being shaken out of bed by an insurgent bridge explosion here in Ramadi a few weeks ago. What kind of hatred would motivate a people to take on such actions? The fight or flight response was at 100% with a fear I had not experienced in a long time or ever.

As a proud American I have to ask the question: Is a relatively constant state of war, hot or cold, necessary for the advancement of our society or the larger world?

Does the regular upset of tranquility serve as a symbiotic partner to the needs of society?

I essence, what I ask is: "Can the America and the world progress without war?"

Did a little BOOM frighten you? You candy ass.

The bible states that these things will take place. War is mans ways of solving issues. We declare war on drugs. War against gangs. War with each other. You name it, we have a war on it or against it. There will always be war until the return of Christ.

This is known as a self-fulfilling prophesy.

 

[afterhours]

That is a very interesting statement. I suppose we can draw the conclusion that humanity still has a ways to go before we are considered advanced.

correct.....

that is if you believe that "being advanced" means living in peace, wih others.

i think there are things that we cannot change, it is in our DNA. we live in our civilized and "soft" world....and we try to pretend that we are above all others. the truth is, we are animals. animals must compete to survive.

we can never be peaceful people.....simply because when a group of people decides they will not fight, they are killed,imprisoned or enslaved by thier neighbors.

 

[Projekt]

we can never be peaceful people.....simply because when a group of people decides they will not fight, they are killed,imprisoned or enslaved by thier neighbors.

Good point.. Sustaining peace for too long affects preparedness and would open us up for attack and takeover.

We truly are nothing more than animals.. People want to deny that but we are just out of the caves regarding our development.

 

[b4thenite]

Good point.. Sustaining peace for too long affects preparedness and would open us up for attack and takeover.

We truly are nothing more than animals.. People want to deny that but we are just out of the caves regarding our development.

Not true. We are still evolving. Our physical evolution has reached it peak. Now it's time for the spiritual evolution. Someone once said, long time ago, "love your neighbor...".

 

[oskala]

Yes, the world can progress without war but not until we expose the fairy tale of religion. A large percentage of human conflicts is because of religion and the ignorant masses who believe this fairy tale. It's time for us to use our intellect and critical thinking to move beyond the god concept and deal with and solve the worlds problems.

 

[Projekt]

Yes, the world can progress without war but not until we expose the fairy tale of religion. A large percentage of human conflicts is because of religion and the ignorant masses who believe this fairy tale. It's time for us to use our intellect and critical thinking to move beyond the god concept and deal with and solve the worlds problems.

I agree with you 100% but doing so would cause a war on the scale never seen before.

Remove the god concept and all you are left with is wealth to try and acquire through war which is the truth behind all wars in the first place.. "They have something we want. Lets go get it by motivating our people with religious propaganda."