Taking her last name in marriage
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I wouldn't change my name but I can see how a woman might not want to change her name either. The tradition of the woman taking her husband's name does have subservient overtones. Though, if we (most of us) didn't follow the tradition, then what would we name ourselves after marriage? I suppose we could just keep our present names but what last name would the children use? The hyphenated naming convention can only work for so long (ex. Frank Jones-Smith-Davis-Kennedy-Johnson).
Food for thought.
Food for thought.
Aw. Come on. You don't like the sound of Paul Prye.(GMbusa @ Jul. 12 2007,10:21) I know my girl is reading this ..... NO Susan, i won't take your last name.
Don't worry. I wouldn't want that either. While I understand the girl keeping her last name, I don't believe the guy should take her name.
I knew I saw this somewhere. This guy has shrunken nads. You can tell by looking at him. 
Man who wants wife’s last name sues
Husband sues California for discrimination because of complex process
The Associated Press
Updated: 2:35 p.m. PT Jan 12, 2007
LOS ANGELES - Mike Buday isn’t married to his last name. In fact, he and his fiancée decided before they wed that he would take hers.
But Buday was stunned to learn that he couldn’t simply become Mike Bijon when they married in 2005.
As in most other states, that would require some bureaucratic paperwork well beyond what a woman must go through to change her name when marrying.
Instead of completing the expensive, time-consuming process, Buday and his wife, Diana Bijon, enlisted the American Civil Liberties Union and filed a discrimination lawsuit against the state of California. They claim the difficulty faced by a husband seeking to change his name violates the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment.
“Diana and I feel strongly about gender equality for both men and women,†Buday said. “I think the most important thing in all of this is to bring it to a new level of awareness.â€
Mark Rosenbaum, legal director of the ACLU in Southern California, said it is the first federal lawsuit of its kind in the country. “It’s the perfect marriage application for the 17th century,†Rosenbaum said. “It belongs in the same trash can as dowries.â€
Only six states — Georgia, Hawaii, Iowa, Massachusetts, New York and North Dakota — have statutes establishing equal name-change processes for men and women when they marry. In California and other states, men cannot choose a different last name while filing a marriage license.
Process includes $300 charge
In California, a man who wants to take his wife’s name must file a petition, pay more than $300, place a public notice for weeks in a local newspaper and then appear before a judge.
Because of Buday’s case, a California state lawmaker has introduced a bill to put a space on the marriage license for either spouse to change names.
The Census Bureau does not keep figures on how many U.S. men are taking their brides’ names. But clearly it happening more and more. Milwaukee County, Wis., Clerk Mark Ryan estimated that one in every 100 grooms there now takes the name of his wife.
Bijon, 28, approached Buday about the idea when they were dating. She had no brothers but wanted to prolong the family name. Buday, a 29-year-old developer of interactive advertising, was estranged from his own father and was not attached to his own last name.
“I knew immediately it was pretty important to her or else she wouldn’t have brought it up,†Buday said.
‘Men just don't do that’
At one point, the couple tried the Department of Motor Vehicles to get a name change. But Buday said he was told by a woman behind the counter: “Men just don’t do that type of thing.â€
Couples who want to hyphenate or combine their names also must endure the lengthy court procedures in California. One of the more notable examples was Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, who went to court to fuse his last name, Villar, with his wife’s, Raigosa, when they married in 1987.
Laws giving women an easy choice of names were largely a byproduct of the feminist movement. A 2004 Harvard University study found that the number of college-educated women who kept their surnames upon marriage rose from about 3 percent in 1975 to nearly 20 percent in 2001.
© 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16599140/?GT1=8921[/quote]
Man who wants wife’s last name sues
Husband sues California for discrimination because of complex process
The Associated Press
Updated: 2:35 p.m. PT Jan 12, 2007
LOS ANGELES - Mike Buday isn’t married to his last name. In fact, he and his fiancée decided before they wed that he would take hers.
But Buday was stunned to learn that he couldn’t simply become Mike Bijon when they married in 2005.
As in most other states, that would require some bureaucratic paperwork well beyond what a woman must go through to change her name when marrying.
Instead of completing the expensive, time-consuming process, Buday and his wife, Diana Bijon, enlisted the American Civil Liberties Union and filed a discrimination lawsuit against the state of California. They claim the difficulty faced by a husband seeking to change his name violates the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment.
“Diana and I feel strongly about gender equality for both men and women,†Buday said. “I think the most important thing in all of this is to bring it to a new level of awareness.â€
Mark Rosenbaum, legal director of the ACLU in Southern California, said it is the first federal lawsuit of its kind in the country. “It’s the perfect marriage application for the 17th century,†Rosenbaum said. “It belongs in the same trash can as dowries.â€
Only six states — Georgia, Hawaii, Iowa, Massachusetts, New York and North Dakota — have statutes establishing equal name-change processes for men and women when they marry. In California and other states, men cannot choose a different last name while filing a marriage license.
Process includes $300 charge
In California, a man who wants to take his wife’s name must file a petition, pay more than $300, place a public notice for weeks in a local newspaper and then appear before a judge.
Because of Buday’s case, a California state lawmaker has introduced a bill to put a space on the marriage license for either spouse to change names.
The Census Bureau does not keep figures on how many U.S. men are taking their brides’ names. But clearly it happening more and more. Milwaukee County, Wis., Clerk Mark Ryan estimated that one in every 100 grooms there now takes the name of his wife.
Bijon, 28, approached Buday about the idea when they were dating. She had no brothers but wanted to prolong the family name. Buday, a 29-year-old developer of interactive advertising, was estranged from his own father and was not attached to his own last name.
“I knew immediately it was pretty important to her or else she wouldn’t have brought it up,†Buday said.
‘Men just don't do that’
At one point, the couple tried the Department of Motor Vehicles to get a name change. But Buday said he was told by a woman behind the counter: “Men just don’t do that type of thing.â€
Couples who want to hyphenate or combine their names also must endure the lengthy court procedures in California. One of the more notable examples was Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, who went to court to fuse his last name, Villar, with his wife’s, Raigosa, when they married in 1987.
Laws giving women an easy choice of names were largely a byproduct of the feminist movement. A 2004 Harvard University study found that the number of college-educated women who kept their surnames upon marriage rose from about 3 percent in 1975 to nearly 20 percent in 2001.
© 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16599140/?GT1=8921[/quote]
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I didn't see the It's According option. According to who she is, what she looks like and how much money she makes. Money talks.
This is the only argument that I as a man am aloud to be pig headed obnoxious and unbendable, that said I couldn't do it any other way. My family name is way to important to me.
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Best Office Space Voice..
I do believe that is like saying "You have a case of the Mondays" which means you will get your A$$ kicked where I work..
I do believe that is like saying "You have a case of the Mondays" which means you will get your A$$ kicked where I work..
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OMG I think I may have seen the guy that this thread was started for. I was in the store the other night and this little pipsqueak of a dude is being bossed around the store by his woman (who was significantly larger than he). You know the type. 5 foot nothing, blue tooth headset, perm and full length woolen topcoat. I didn't think much of it until I saw him grab a copy of Oprah off the magazine rack. I am like dude have you no scrode? This is most assuredly one of those "just aint right" things.
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You wouldn't even have to change your monogram!I would change my name to Hal Canizales so fast it would make your busa look like a moped!
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this doesn`t even deserve an answer..crazy!!!
That is the only reason I would consider her!You wouldn't even have to change your monogram!I would change my name to Hal Canizales so fast it would make your busa look like a moped!
Obvious exception ....................... what an old thread dudesI would change my name to Hal Canizales so fast it would make your busa look like a moped!
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