MSF Basic boring?

[suzuki4life]

Unit IV is just that, Street Strategies.

This part of the curriculum discusses: Lane Positioning, Being visible to other traffic, RiderRadar, Stopping Distance, Acronym SEE:Search,Evaluate, and Execute, Conflict at intersections, Riding in blind spots, Negotiating Curves, slow-Look-Press-Roll, parking, effectively going over obstacles, night riding, front and/or rear tire skidding, swerving, passengers and cargo, etc......

For someone who knows nothing about riding.....learning this portion would be vital!

yep text book stuff...I was referring to actual on site hands on instructional. Do you realize how many guys literally sleep through the class part of the course and still pass?

[Devil Dog]

yep text book stuff...I was referring to actual on site hands on instructional. Do you realize how many guys literally sleep through the class part of the course and still pass?

If they are sleeping in class when they are being taught how to survive the street......then I guess they don't value their lives very much.

It's a period of instruction.....Of course they will learn more once they get on the street.....it's the fundamentals.

"Everything" can't be taught in a class room. But the basics can.

[miserycaptain]

Well, I start in an hour or so, I will post up my thoughts.

[suzuki4life]

If they are sleeping in class when they are being taught how to survive the street......then I guess they don't value their lives very much.

It's a period of instruction.....Of course they will learn more once they get on the street.....it's the fundamentals.

"Everything" can't be taught in a class room. But the basics can.

common sense can't be taught from a book, hence why they pass the test.

Many people can not be taught to start their car or bike from their hand book. It takes a hands on approach even though it is covered in the handbook.

[Devil Dog]

common sense can't be taught from a book, hence why they pass the test.

Many people can not be taught to start their car or bike from their hand book. It takes a hands on approach even though it is covered in the handbook.

Good point....I agree. All I'm saying is the BRC teaches the basics which is better than learning the same from an untrained wannabe professional.
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[Dino]

neither course will teach you to survive on the street. The courses are aimed at education of your bike, its capabilites and how it should be handled on the street. These are under "normal" and possible situations and in most situations the instructionals are vocal only. Ask your instructor if you can have a lesson on how to properly pick a bike off the ground, but state you want to see it done or better yet allow you to do it yourself. Most places won't....too much liability.

However, I guarantee that many experienced and licensed riders can not ace every aspect of even the beginner's class. Many riders can not perform the figure 8 in the allotted space.

I can only speak for my classes but I don't move beyond the figure 8 until I see every student complete it correctly at least once.
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[BusaPebbles]

I can only speak for my classes but I don't move beyond the figure 8 until I see every student complete it correctly at least once.
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Th figure 8 is hard...I did it several times in practice, but during the test....BOMB!!! Thank God I aced everything else.

[Devil Dog]

on the Busa.......shiyattttttttttt, the box is tough
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[Dino]

on the Busa.......shiyattttttttttt, the box is tough
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you got that right.

[Zoinks!]

on the Busa.......shiyattttttttttt, the box is tough
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+100 to that. Especially when it's on a small grade. . . Dumbest thing I've ever seen.

[cobravenom39]

Uh, I've been riding 9 years with a license for 7 and I just took it last year with my fiance. I learned a few good things. They spent a TON of time on how not to highside, which I thought was great. I also had a TON of respect for the guys that taught the class. 60 years of riding experience between both of them and awesome guys. I actually wrote a letter to the state about them. Track experience was great. There's a lot of basic principles of motorcycle riding that you can't do easily on a large sportbike, and their little 250's can. I was having more fun on my Yamaha tz than anyone else.

I was just happy to be on two wheels.

[HillbillyTom]

I had to take the MSF course as a condition to get a ticket dropped. It could be seen as boring I guess. Actually, I had a pretty good time with it. I must just be easily amused.

[Wag]

It's a bit boring but you'll get some good stuff out of it. Depending on the teacher and the amount of attention you give it, it can be fun!

--Wag--

[miserycaptain]

3 hours of classroom tonight, not all bad. Now, 16 more hours this weekend and I am done with this one. The instructors are entertaining and that is a plus! And, I know where to find my throttle, shifter and clutch so watch out

[riccoh]

i live 5 miles from where the local military BRC, ERC and MSRC ranges are and I go there in a monthy basis to test my self and those line and the box have become so big for my figure 8's that is not even funny.. I enjoy every run in the range and every now and then bring my buddys to try it for fun.....
some of them are impress on how far they have gone off course while attempting the rings and box.... anyone can go fazttt.... it the slow control that gets most people....
I say ten miles in the range its all it takes to break in my new tires... I can run the blue of the tires in less than 12 miles and that concrete isn't forgiving on the bottom spikes that use to hold my side plastics...

[Devil Dog]

3 hours of classroom tonight, not all bad. Now, 16 more hours this weekend and I am done with this one. The instructors are entertaining and that is a plus! And, I know where to find my throttle, shifter and clutch so watch out

LOL.....glad you learned the location of the throttle and how to use it.

[miserycaptain]

i live 5 miles from where the local military BRC, ERC and MSRC ranges are and I go there in a monthy basis to test my self and those line and the box have become so big for my figure 8's that is not even funny.. I enjoy every run in the range and every now and then bring my buddys to try it for fun.....
some of them are impress on how far they have gone off course while attempting the rings and box.... anyone can go fazttt.... it the slow control that gets most people....
I say ten miles in the range its all it takes to break in my new tires... I can run the blue of the tires in less than 12 miles and that concrete isn't forgiving on the bottom spikes that use to hold my side plastics...

I would love to have access to a range like that!

[miserycaptain]

Yep throttle and even the brakes! I am supposed to use that front brake handle thing? And the clutch? Well, I'm learning

[miserycaptain]

It was all good!

[Stepsidez71]

My wife took the course over the summer. She passed the course and did not have to make a turn. She passed everything else fine, but when it came to turning she was to scared to do it, she could not do the U-Turn or simple 90 degree trurns. She missed just enough points to pass. I do not feel any safer for her riding now then we she first started the class.