Hi. I use a regular charger to keep the Li battery charged as I was told would work fine. As the charging system on the bike does not have a way to ballance the cells now does it.
I had a Shorai in my other bike for 11 years. It was a smaller battery than what was recomended by Shorai for that bike. It didn't crank quite as hard as the stock battery but it worked well. I let it drop below the recommended voltage (8v I think) and I think that damaged it. It didn't seem to hold a charge as well after that but kept working. The last few years, I had to charge it if the bike sat for a couple days without starting and in the last summer, it only held a sufficient charge to start for 24 hours. It was time to change it. I already have the charger.
I still use the original battery for my 2008 busa. Its working fine. I was thinking about replacing it with a Full Spectrum battery which is a little heavier and requires a different maintainer than Shorai. It's discussed at the end of this thread:
Lightest weight option in Shorai? | Electrical Mods
Hi Yes but your stator just puts amps in the battery it does not balance the cells ????????????????????// Good point. That might become noticeable after years if you never use a Lithium battery charger though. ? I don't think they're just trying to sell you a charger because Full Spectrum...www.hayabusa.org
I wouldn't hesitate to buy another Shorai though. I was actually going to replace the Shorai I have in my other bike with another Shorai just like it. Too bad I wrecked that bike.
I was told that too bro , about charging on an ordinary charger , except I think now that is bullchit , because reports the lithium batts can blow up with regular charger , overcharging . For an extra few bucks , I run the Shorai charger / tender , for a bit of piece of mind.
Hi. I also have a Li charger. I just do not take 5he time to set it up as I do not use it as a tender and keep them set up all the time. I watch and keep checking the voltage.
Great question. I didn't have the answer, but do now, courtesy this lengthy discussion from 2020, a place called Science Direct.
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Ay-yup. Sittin right here beside me. It's a Yuasa YXT12-BS. I've kept it on a trickle charger over winter and every year and it's been giving me perfect service since 2010 when I bought the bike. ...so I guess that's at least 11 years. We'll see how it does this summer if I ride. I'd say it's about time I change it just in case.
I heard the same thing, the dash lights and whatever else turns on with the key get the battery wound up and ready. I have noticed that if the battery draws down, a weak attempt to start seems to result in a good start on the next try. Weak attempts to start were never a problem until I let the battery drain down below 8v. If it's not at at least 12v, there's no reason to try starting because that could result in it dropping below 8v. When I first got the Shorai it sat for two months before I put it in the bike and it started the engine just fine. I think I let it sit over storage some years after and it got drained down too low. I didn't have the Shorai maintainer until I owned the battery for some time. I used a regular lead acid maintainer on it the first winter and that seemed to work fine. I got the special Shorai maintainer after I had already damaged the battery but it still worked well for me for years after that. I really did need the help of the maintainer the last few years though. Too bad I didn't get it right away. That battery might still be like new. Get teh charger if you get Shorai. Michael Paris Hueberger suggested the Full Spectrum Li battery. It's a little heavier because it has more of the "stuff" inside of it and you might need that. If you don't have a lot of electronic stuff going, a little Shorai should do the trick. Something like a nitrous system along with the normal stock electronis won't kill the battery according to the people I consulted.
I believe it's to do with the chemistry of lithium batteries. This is from schnitz racing site:
I like Shorai. In the early days I had one go bad and they sent me one next day air with a return label. The FedEex guy waited while I packaged the return. That battery worked for years. I would not buy a Full Spectrum right now knowing folks with failed batteries. I just pulled one out of a bike Friday that was swelled. I expect them to take care of the situation like Shorai did for me, and they may become a good company but personally I'd get Anti-Gravity. I have four of them that work well, and held their charge all winter last two years with no trickle charger.I had a Shorai in my other bike for 11 years. It was a smaller battery than what was recomended by Shorai for that bike. It didn't crank quite as hard as the stock battery but it worked well. I let it drop below the recommended voltage (8v I think) and I think that damaged it. It didn't seem to hold a charge as well after that but kept working. The last few years, I had to charge it if the bike sat for a couple days without starting and in the last summer, it only held a sufficient charge to start for 24 hours. It was time to change it. I already have the charger.
I still use the original battery for my 2008 busa. Its working fine. I was thinking about replacing it with a Full Spectrum battery which is a little heavier and requires a different maintainer than Shorai. It's discussed at the end of this thread:
Lightest weight option in Shorai? | Electrical Mods
Hi Yes but your stator just puts amps in the battery it does not balance the cells ????????????????????// Good point. That might become noticeable after years if you never use a Lithium battery charger though. ? I don't think they're just trying to sell you a charger because Full Spectrum...
I wouldn't hesitate to buy another Shorai though. I was actually going to replace the Shorai I have in my other bike with another Shorai just like it. Too bad I wrecked that bike.
