Gen 3 'busa has been dropped off at dealer to have ABM Superbike handlebar kit installed.

Stainless steel brake lines do not expand like rubber brake lines, so the ss lines give a more positive and consistant feel in brake lever or pedal pressure, especially on hot days, or just with lots of brake use.
Stainless steel lines will Not stop you any sooner, but they are worth doing based on the improvement in feel.
Stainless lines can be made in any length too.
 
Then again, I could get these:


I would spend the money on aftermarket levers instead.
Most all have some sort of design to help prevent crash damage, as well as more adjustment than stock, and depending on which, can fit your hands and fingers better.
 
90s!! It's been in the 30s (F.) here. We're talking ice and snow!!
No bar ends yet except for the stock Suzuki ends. I want to get the stainless steel mirrors and heavy bar ends from Spiegler:



I really like the bar-end mirrors at the top of the page in your link.
I also currently have the heavy bar-end weights.
The problem I have is that I want to use both the weights and the mirrord, so the best solution is wider handlebars.
As I would have to move the grips and controls in an inch on each side, in order to have room to clamp the mirror to the 7/8" bar(mirrors come with 7/8" or 1" diameter mounts).
I considererd turning the roughly 1 3/8" bar-end to 1" in the lathe, and clamping the mirror(s) to them, but the rubber mount may transfer enough vibrations to make the mirrors appear blurry.
So, now do I buy wider 7/8 bars, or a 1" riser and 1" fatbars(maybe gold, lol)?
I find the visibility of a good bar-end mirror far superior to factory mirrors, and I had planned to use them again anyway.
Have you decided which mirrors or bar-ends you're going to use yet?
Here are the current version of the large/heavy bar-end weights from Spiegler look like.
My kit cap with the bar end-caps, but I sent them back for these, I put them on a few months ago.
 
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I always wanted to buy a Zx14 and transfer my concours 14 body work over to it. In a way, I think you just crested the bike I want.
 
That labor rate is fine, out here it’s $180 per hour. But them taking a full day to do the job is ridiculous. Before any shop work we should always get a written estimate and then tell the service writer to contact us when it’s about to exceed that estimate. Good luck.
I don't think they ever did one before.
 
Sure. We had an ice storm here a few days ago and there is no electricity. When the power comes back normally I will put up the link to the instructions from either ABM or Spiegler, I forget. I can take any measurements you want as well if you let me know what you want.
So the Spiegler is what you bought to get your bars where there at? I love your set up and I want to mine the same way!!
 
So the Spiegler is what you bought to get your bars where there at? I love your set up and I want to mine the same way!!

It's an ABM top clamp, and Spiegler sells them. You can use any brand of 7/8th handlebars with them.
Spiegler will sell it to you with or without bars, and with or without custom length stainless steel brake lines.
I put one on my Gen2, and have one on my '03 Gsxr now.
 
What are the reasons for the ambitious change to a full bar over risers and Helibars?

Personal comfort.
I dislike the Gen1 and Gen2's rear gas tank shape, as well as the front of the seat. Their reach to the bars is further than the Gsxr's as well.
I like the stock Gsxr position, but also like the more upright feel of dirtbike bars on them, as it gives the feel of a rocket powered dirtbike.
The typical sportbike lean is perfect for it's intended design for twisty roads, is fun for wheelies, but is not ideal for much else, especially long straight roads, aside for top speed runs.
The dirtbike bars give a nice hooligan feel.
I started on dirtbikes at 12, and sportbikes at 18, and they are the only styles of bikes that I really enjoy.
Yes, I have a Goldwing too, but could not have that as my only ride, as it is mainly my 2up bike, or when I have a longer distance to commute, that I prefer not to drive my truck to.
I think for guys like me that grew up in the woods and on to MX tracks, the dirtbike bars on a sportbike is just a blend of the best of both worlds.
They also ease some of the aches and pains of an aging body.
 
Personal comfort.
I dislike the Gen1 and Gen2's rear gas tank shape, as well as the front of the seat. Their reach to the bars is further than the Gsxr's as well.
I like the stock Gsxr position, but also like the more upright feel of dirtbike bars on them, as it gives the feel of a rocket powered dirtbike.

I take it the position is further up and back than riser bars and Helibars. I would love to see an image of the rider position between these two setups, showing how much different it is.
 
Consider this;
It's a dealership.
Some fairings have to come off, and the gas tank.
Brake fluid vacuumed out.
Rubber And steel hard lines need to come out.
New lines installed, fluid filled, brakes bled.
Oem top plate and top clamp removed.
Some come right off, others will fight you.
(I have done 2 ABM conversions on a Gen2, and a Gsxr1k.
I have also put ss lines on an ABS gsxr1k)
Reroute wiring harnesses.
Reinstall switches, mc's, put on new grips.
Put fairings back on.
Test everything, and test ride it.
So, to do it all in one 8 hour shift, especially if you havn't done one before, or put ss lines on an ABS bike, is not a bad first time at all.
Can he do it faster the next time? Sure.
But to say that the dealer is ripping someone off...nah, not for a first time on a job full of unknowns.
Installing this bar conversion is a HECK of a lot more work than meets the eye, and as a former military fighter maintainer with a dedicated motorcycle garage with a lift and gobs of tools, the PITA factor is high enough for me to farm out this type of job!

I"ll be going to my local dealer today to check out a '22 stock Hayabusa to replace my beloved K1200 GT.

This forum has been a treasure trove of good info and no way would I buy a Hayabusa without the collective postings.

Thank you for sharing :beerchug:


At nearly 60 years old I want the spice of the 'Busa but with touring capability. The only thing close is the S 1000 XR and after riding the current gen and the gen previous, they are not my cup of tea. Nor are any of other "tall rounders" or the current crop of "dad" bike sport tourers. The Hayabusa is a known Iron Butt Rally finisher with lots of Iron Butt cert rides performed by owners.

If I go through with the purchase the plan is:
-Handlebar conversion
-Tall windscreen
-Lower pegs
 
Installing this bar conversion is a HECK of a lot more work than meets the eye, and as a former military fighter maintainer with a dedicated motorcycle garage with a lift and gobs of tools, the PITA factor is high enough for me to farm out this type of job!

I"ll be going to my local dealer today to check out a '22 stock Hayabusa to replace my beloved K1200 GT.

This forum has been a treasure trove of good info and no way would I buy a Hayabusa without the collective postings.

Thank you for sharing :beerchug:


At nearly 60 years old I want the spice of the 'Busa but with touring capability. The only thing close is the S 1000 XR and after riding the current gen and the gen previous, they are not my cup of tea. Nor are any of other "tall rounders" or the current crop of "dad" bike sport tourers. The Hayabusa is a known Iron Butt Rally finisher with lots of Iron Butt cert rides performed by owners.

If I go through with the purchase the plan is:
-Handlebar conversion
-Tall windscreen
-Lower pegs
Welcome,

You can't go wrong with a tried, trued and tested motorcycle such as the Hayabusa....

A good all rounder that can scare the crap out of you if you want it to.....
 
Installing this bar conversion is a HECK of a lot more work than meets the eye, and as a former military fighter maintainer with a dedicated motorcycle garage with a lift and gobs of tools, the PITA factor is high enough for me to farm out this type of job!

I"ll be going to my local dealer today to check out a '22 stock Hayabusa to replace my beloved K1200 GT.

This forum has been a treasure trove of good info and no way would I buy a Hayabusa without the collective postings.

Thank you for sharing :beerchug:


At nearly 60 years old I want the spice of the 'Busa but with touring capability. The only thing close is the S 1000 XR and after riding the current gen and the gen previous, they are not my cup of tea. Nor are any of other "tall rounders" or the current crop of "dad" bike sport tourers. The Hayabusa is a known Iron Butt Rally finisher with lots of Iron Butt cert rides performed by owners.

If I go through with the purchase the plan is:
-Handlebar conversion
-Tall windscreen
-Lower pegs

With your experience, workspace, and tools, the bar conversion is really not a bad job, it just takes a while.
When you sit on the Busa, let go of the bars, sit up, and hold your hands in space to roughly where the dirtbike bars would be, but the real thing then is knee bend.
Lowered pegs do help, but there is still a considerable bend in your knees.
I'm not trying to steer you away from the Busa, but many of us have been there and done that.
If you want to tour, or ride for extended periods of time, the knee bend can be a little much, even with lower pegs.
One option would be a B-king, as the seating position is great.
It has great power stock, but flash the ecu to an unrestricted Busa bin file, and it comes alive.
Add a windshield for touring and you have a super comfortable rocket that you can ride all day, and get off of it without feeling crippled. Of the many bikes that I have had, it's probably the only one that I would buy another of.
Good luck in your search, and stick around regardless what kind of bike that you buy, as this is a Hayabusa And any other motorcylce site, as many of us ride other bikes too.
Welcome to the org
 
With your experience, workspace, and tools, the bar conversion is really not a bad job, it just takes a while.
When you sit on the Busa, let go of the bars, sit up, and hold your hands in space to roughly where the dirtbike bars would be, but the real thing then is knee bend.
Lowered pegs do help, but there is still a considerable bend in your knees.
I'm not trying to steer you away from the Busa, but many of us have been there and done that.
If you want to tour, or ride for extended periods of time, the knee bend can be a little much, even with lower pegs.
One option would be a B-king, as the seating position is great.
It has great power stock, but flash the ecu to an unrestricted Busa bin file, and it comes alive.
Add a windshield for touring and you have a super comfortable rocket that you can ride all day, and get off of it without feeling crippled. Of the many bikes that I have had, it's probably the only one that I would buy another of.
Good luck in your search, and stick around regardless what kind of bike that you buy, as this is a Hayabusa And any other motorcylce site, as many of us ride other bikes too.
Welcome to the org
Thanks for the input.

I can't do the full "sit-up-and-beg" seating position.

Two summers ago I hit a deer and summersaulted over the bars breaking several ribs on the right side, dislocating the floaters on the left, landed on my upper butt/lower back causing a Morel-Lavelee (degloving) injury to the low back and breaking my pelvis sit bones on both the left and right sides.

My hips have to be rotated forward in order to ride more than an hour.

On my K1200 GT, a previous owner had installed a bar riser, which I now have lowered and is comfortable.

The handlebar conversion top clamp being able to take any handlebar, there are myriad possibilities with bar rise, bar sweep etc. vs installing and removing aftermarket clip on's multiple times. Handlebars are plentiful and cheap (after the conversion is installed).

Cheers.
 
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