Barack Obama's Stealth Socialism

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Barack Obama's Stealth Socialism

By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Monday, July 28, 2008 4:20 PM PT

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=302137342405551

Election '08: Before friendly audiences, Barack Obama speaks passionately about something called "economic justice." He uses the term obliquely, though, speaking in code "†socialist code.
During his NAACP speech earlier this month, Sen. Obama repeated the term at least four times. "I've been working my entire adult life to help build an America where economic justice is being served," he said at the group's 99th annual convention in Cincinnati.
Democrat Barack Obama arrives in Washington on Monday. On the campaign trail, Obama has styled himself a centrist. But a look at those who've served as his advisers and mentors over the years shows a far more left-leaning tilt to his background "†and to his politics.
And as president, "we'll ensure that economic justice is served," he asserted. "That's what this election is about." Obama never spelled out the meaning of the term, but he didn't have to. His audience knew what he meant, judging from its thumping approval.
It's the rest of the public that remains in the dark, which is why we're launching this special educational series.
"Economic justice" simply means punishing the successful and redistributing their wealth by government fiat. It's a euphemism for socialism.
In the past, such rhetoric was just that "†rhetoric. But Obama's positioning himself with alarming stealth to put that rhetoric into action on a scale not seen since the birth of the welfare state.
In his latest memoir he shares that he'd like to "recast" the welfare net that FDR and LBJ cast while rolling back what he derisively calls the "winner-take-all" market economy that Ronald Reagan reignited (with record gains in living standards for all).
Obama also talks about "restoring fairness to the economy," code for soaking the "rich" "†a segment of society he fails to understand that includes mom-and-pop businesses filing individual tax returns.
It's clear from a close reading of his two books that he's a firm believer in class envy. He assumes the economy is a fixed pie, whereby the successful only get rich at the expense of the poor.
Following this discredited Marxist model, he believes government must step in and redistribute pieces of the pie. That requires massive transfers of wealth through government taxing and spending, a return to the entitlement days of old.
Of course, Obama is too smart to try to smuggle such hoary collectivist garbage through the front door. He's disguising the wealth transfers as "investments" "†"to make America more competitive," he says, or "that give us a fighting chance," whatever that means.
Among his proposed "investments":
"¢ "Universal," "guaranteed" health care.
"¢ "Free" college tuition.
"¢ "Universal national service" (a la Havana).
"¢ "Universal 401(k)s" (in which the government would match contributions made by "low- and moderate-income families").
"¢ "Free" job training (even for criminals).
"¢ "Wage insurance" (to supplement dislocated union workers' old income levels).
"¢ "Free" child care and "universal" preschool.
"¢ More subsidized public housing.
"¢ A fatter earned income tax credit for "working poor."
"¢ And even a Global Poverty Act that amounts to a Marshall Plan for the Third World, first and foremost Africa.
His new New Deal also guarantees a "living wage," with a $10 minimum wage indexed to inflation; and "fair trade" and "fair labor practices," with breaks for "patriot employers" who cow-tow to unions, and sticks for "nonpatriot" companies that don't.
That's just for starters "†first-term stuff.
Obama doesn't stop with socialized health care. He wants to socialize your entire human resources department "†from payrolls to pensions. His social-microengineering even extends to mandating all employers provide seven paid sick days per year to salary and hourly workers alike.
You can see why Obama was ranked, hands-down, the most liberal member of the Senate by the National Journal. Some, including colleague and presidential challenger John McCain, think he's the most liberal member in Congress.
But could he really be "more left," as McCain recently remarked, than self-described socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders (for whom Obama has openly campaigned, even making a special trip to Vermont to rally voters)?
Obama's voting record, going back to his days in the Illinois statehouse, says yes. His career path "†and those who guided it "†leads to the same unsettling conclusion.
The seeds of his far-left ideology were planted in his formative years as a teenager in Hawaii "†and they were far more radical than any biography or profile in the media has portrayed.
A careful reading of Obama's first memoir, "Dreams From My Father," reveals that his childhood mentor up to age 18 "†a man he cryptically refers to as "Frank" "†was none other than the late communist Frank Marshall Davis, who fled Chicago after the FBI and Congress opened investigations into his "subversive," "un-American activities."
As Obama was preparing to head off to college, he sat at Davis' feet in his Waikiki bungalow for nightly bull sessions. Davis plied his impressionable guest with liberal doses of whiskey and advice, including: Never trust the white establishment.
"They'll train you so good," he said, "you'll start believing what they tell you about equal opportunity and the American way and all that sh**."
After college, where he palled around with Marxist professors and took in socialist conferences "for inspiration," Obama followed in Davis' footsteps, becoming a "community organizer" in Chicago.
His boss there was Gerald Kellman, whose identity Obama also tries to hide in his book. Turns out Kellman's a disciple of the late Saul "The Red" Alinsky, a hard-boiled Chicago socialist who wrote the "Rules for Radicals" and agitated for social revolution in America.
The Chicago-based Woods Fund provided Kellman with his original $25,000 to hire Obama. In turn, Obama would later serve on the Woods board with terrorist Bill Ayers of the Weather Underground. Ayers was one of Obama's early political supporters.
After three years agitating with marginal success for more welfare programs in South Side Chicago, Obama decided he would need to study law to "bring about real change" "†on a large scale.
While at Harvard Law School, he still found time to hone his organizing skills. For example, he spent eight days in Los Angeles taking a national training course taught by Alinsky's Industrial Areas Foundation. With his newly minted law degree, he returned to Chicago to reapply "†as well as teach "†Alinsky's "agitation" tactics.
(A video-streamed bio on Obama's Web site includes a photo of him teaching in a University of Chicago classroom. If you freeze the frame and look closely at the blackboard Obama is writing on, you can make out the words "Power Analysis" and "Relationships Built on Self Interest" "†terms right out of Alinsky's rule book.)
Amid all this, Obama reunited with his late father's communist tribe in Kenya, the Luo, during trips to Africa.
As a Nairobi bureaucrat, Barack Hussein Obama Sr., a Harvard-educated economist, grew to challenge the ruling pro-Western government for not being socialist enough. In an eight-page scholarly paper published in 1965, he argued for eliminating private farming and nationalizing businesses "owned by Asians and Europeans."
His ideas for communist-style expropriation didn't stop there. He also proposed massive taxes on the rich to "redistribute our economic gains to the benefit of all."
"Theoretically, there is nothing that can stop the government from taxing 100% of income so long as the people get benefits from the government commensurate with their income which is taxed," Obama Sr. wrote. "I do not see why the government cannot tax those who have more and syphon some of these revenues into savings which can be utilized in investment for future development."
Taxes and "investment" . . . the fruit truly does not fall far from the vine.
(Voters might also be interested to know that Obama, the supposed straight shooter, does not once mention his father's communist leanings in an entire book dedicated to his memory.)
In Kenya's recent civil unrest, Obama privately phoned the leader of the opposition Luo tribe, Raila Odinga, to voice his support. Odinga is so committed to communism he named his oldest son after Fidel Castro.
With his African identity sewn up, Obama returned to Chicago and fell under the spell of an Afrocentric pastor. It was a natural attraction. The Rev. Jeremiah Wright preaches a Marxist version of Christianity called "black liberation theology" and has supported the communists in Cuba, Nicaragua and elsewhere.
Obama joined Wright's militant church, pledging allegiance to a system of "black values" that demonizes white "middle classness" and other mainstream pursuits.
(Obama in his first book, published in 1995, calls such values "sensible." There's no mention of them in his new book.)
With the large church behind him, Obama decided to run for political office, where he could organize for "change" more effectively. "As an elected official," he said, "I could bring church and community leaders together easier than I could as a community organizer or lawyer."
He could also exercise real, top-down power, the kind that grass-roots activists lack. Alinsky would be proud.
Throughout his career, Obama has worked closely with a network of stone-cold socialists and full-blown communists striving for "economic justice."
He's been traveling in an orbit of collectivism that runs from Nairobi to Honolulu, and on through Chicago to Washington.
Yet a recent AP poll found that only 6% of Americans would describe Obama as "liberal," let alone socialist.
Public opinion polls usually reflect media opinion, and the media by and large have portrayed Obama as a moderate "outsider" (the No. 1 term survey respondents associate him with) who will bring a "breath of fresh air" to Washington.
The few who have drilled down on his radical roots have tended to downplay or pooh-pooh them. Even skeptics have failed to connect the dots for fear of being called the dreaded "r" word.
But too much is at stake in this election to continue mincing words.
Both a historic banking crisis and 1970s-style stagflation loom over the economy. Democrats, who already control Congress, now threaten to filibuster-proof the Senate in what could be a watershed election for them "†at both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue.
A perfect storm of statism is forming, and our economic freedoms are at serious risk.
Those who care less about looking politically correct than preserving the free-market individualism that's made this country great have to start calling things by their proper name to avert long-term disaster.
 
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"Theoretically, there is nothing that can stop the government from taxing 100% of income so long as the people get benefits from the government commensurate with their income which is taxed," Obama Sr. wrote. "I do not see why the government cannot tax those who have more and syphon some of these revenues into savings which can be utilized in investment for future development."
Taxes and "investment" . . . the fruit truly does not fall far from the vine.
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This one scares the crap outta me.
Republican or Democrat, who wants someone taking MORE of your hard earned money just because you were fortunate enough in life to make somethin of yourself??
 
If you want eight more years in Iraq and Afghanistan and lots more American deaths, what's it up to now, 3,000 or is it 4,000?, go ahead and vote for McCain.  He's not only too old, he's a conquered man.  Hanoi did that to him.  His own government let him sit in the Hilton for far too many years as it did all the others that rotted away in Hanoi.  Oh yeah, how about a half TRILLION dollar budget deficit from the outgoing presidency?  Happy with that are you?  You can bet your azz that Bush and Cheney haven't felt the economic troubles that most of us have.  And you gripe about the possibility of free education and medical coverage for US residents?  As for being a good candidate for the US presidency, Bush and McCain are two sides of the same right wing, redneck, old boy network, counterfeit coin.  Vote your conscience and hopefully the best man will win.
 
Obama will usher in more socialism from the left he is a nightmare for this country its funny though when people say McCain is to old, why everyone knows on the left that to say someone is to old is discrimination today Obama outlined his energy plan as well, he said if we keeped our tires aired up and our car tuned we could save the same amount of gas that that we would have drilled for, LOL, hes an Idiot...soon after hes elected we as a country will suffer massive economic hardship.....oh well, our enemies want him elected so he must be just the guy we need
 
, hes an Idiot...soon after hes elected we as a country will suffer massive economic hardship.....oh well, our enemies want him elected so he must be just the guy we need
I'm constantly amazed at the idiotic things I read concerning Obama. Do you call the current economy thriving? Just because it hasn't been felt in all the industries, the effects of a stagnant economy hits us in the face every day. As a country we are ready for radicl change. It's not socialism, it's just not heavily weighted towards those earning in excess of 250K a year. His plan to save the social security system, for instance. Read. Please, read.
 
Obama will usher in more socialism from the left he is a nightmare  for this country   its funny though when people say McCain is to old, why everyone knows on the left that to say someone is to old is discrimination   today Obama outlined his energy plan as well, he said if we keeped our tires aired up and our car tuned we could save the same amount of gas that that we would have drilled for, LOL, hes an Idiot...soon after hes elected we as a country will suffer massive economic hardship.....oh well, our enemies want him elected so he must be just the guy we need
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Well Said....

As far as the health care side of the coin...

From someone who works for a "Managed Care Company". Socialized Medicine is not the answer. You will die before you get treated. Imagine needing surgery, but there being a six, eight, or even year or more waiting list for that surgery or treatment?? Getting a cancer diagnosis, but not being able to start any sort of therapy because you must be on a waiting list??

I agreee SOMETHING has to be done! I breaks my heart that there are AMERICAN CHILDREN out there without health coverage, and go without the basics of healthcare. Yet the politicians live like celebrities.

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never said it was thriving and believe me its felt right here at my work when 100 people were layed off last week...hahaha you think its stagnant now, just give him some time and it is socialism....what kind of radical change are you talking about? you mean that we are now world citizens? no, im afraid some of my countrymen are confused as to who we were or are now yea lets get those guys who have succeded and earn 250K it not fair if there is not equal outcome for all right?
 
Everyone scared of the word socialism, do you really understand modern meaning? Instead of search for happiness we all abouut money.

Look at some countries in Europe, their society evolved to socialist democracy, states like Denmark, Sweden, Finland.
To bad they speak weird languages...

Social democracy is a political ideology that emerged in the late 19th century out of the socialist movement.[1] Modern social democracy advocates the formation of a democratic welfare state that incorporates both capitalist and socialist practices.[2] This is unlike socialism in the traditional sense, which aims to end the predominance of the capitalist system, or in the Marxist sense which aims to replace it entirely. Instead, social democrats aim to reform capitalism democratically through state regulation and the creation of programs and organizations which work to ameliorate or remove injustices they see in the capitalist market system. "Social democracy" is also used to refer to the particular kind of society that social democrats advocate. While some consider social democracy a moderate type of socialism, others, defining socialism in the traditional or Marxist sense, reject that designation.

Social democratic parties initially advocated socialism in the strict sense, achieved by class struggle as defined by the Orthodox Marxists within or affiliated with the Social Democratic Party of Germany: August Bebel, Eduard Bernstein, Friedrich Engels, Karl Kautsky and Wilhelm Liebknecht.[1] Schisms within the party during the early 20th century led to the desertion of the revolutionary socialists, and the primacy of Bernstein's evolutionary or reformist democratic path for social progress within the social democratic movement.[1] Throughout Europe, a number of other socialist parties simultaneously rejected revolutionary socialism, and the followers of these movements ultimately came to identify themselves as social democrats or democratic socialists. Consequently, while social democrats share many views with the democratic socialists, they often differ on specific policy issues. The two movements sometimes share political parties, such as the British Labour Party in the 1980s, and the Brazilian Workers' Party today.[3]

One way to delineate between social democratic parties (or movements) and democratic socialist ones, would be to think of social democracy as moving left from capitalism and democratic socialism as moving right from Marxism: in other words, a mainstream leftist party in a state with a market economy and a mostly middle class voting base might be described as a social democratic party, while a party with a more radical agenda and an intellectual or working class voting base that has a history of involvement with further left movements might be described as a democratic socialist party[4]. However, this is not always the case. The British Labour Party charter identifies the party as a "democratic socialist party,"[5] even though the current and former leader, Gordon Brown[6] and Tony Blair[7], identify themselves as social democrats.

The Socialist International (SI), a worldwide organization of social democratic, and labour parties, defines the socialist option as one in which it is "the people of the world who should exercise control by means of a more advanced democracy in all aspects of life: political, social, and economic." The SI emphasizes the following principles: first, freedom"â€￾not only individual liberties, but also freedom from discrimination and freedom from dependence on either the owners of the means of production or the holders of abusive political power; second, equality and social justice"â€￾not only before the law but also economic and socio-cultural equality as well, and equal opportunities for all including those with physical, mental, or social disabilities; and, third, solidarity"â€￾unity and a sense of compassion for the victims of injustice and inequality. These ideals are described in further detail in the SI's Declaration of Principles[8].

Social democratic parties originally included both democratic socialists and revolutionary socialists. Indeed, the split with the revolutionary socialists, including Rosa Luxemburg and Vladimir Lenin, was spectacularly hostile. After World War I and the Russian Revolution, many leading social democrats, including Eduard Bernstein, were explicitly non-revolutionary. In reaction to this, many Bolsheviks and other Marxist-Leninist parties adopted a strategy of publicly denouncing social democrats as "social fascists."
 
no win thread going on here........
true... no one ever changes positions but the one thing I would say is that if anyone believes the president has that much power over the economy etc, they are wrong IMO...

The office has turned into a a "talking head" and frankly, the system is so bogged down in BS, corruption and the "old boys" politics that this country is in serious trouble..

Our economy is holding its own but against China? I doubt there is much we can do... our work force is old, overpaid and lazy for the most part.. (anyone in human resources can probably vouch for that).. much of our "old school" work ethic is retired or close to doing so..

we got on top by being the most productive and resourceful people in the world..

now it is "how do I get more for less" yea individuals may do ok but the cumulative effect is going to be a disaster.. President has control over any of this? nope......
 
, hes an Idiot...soon after hes elected we as a country will suffer massive economic hardship.....oh well, our enemies want him elected so he must be just the guy we need
I'm constantly amazed at the idiotic things I read concerning Obama. Do you call the current economy thriving? Just because it hasn't been felt in all the industries, the effects of a stagnant economy hits us in the face every day. As a country we are ready for radicl change. It's not socialism, it's just not heavily weighted towards those earning in excess of 250K a year. His plan to save the social security system, for instance. Read. Please, read.
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If you want eight more years in Iraq and Afghanistan and lots more American deaths, what's it up to now, 3,000 or is it 4,000?, go ahead and vote for McCain.  He's not only too old, he's a conquered man.  Hanoi did that to him.  His own government let him sit in the Hilton for far too many years as it did all the others that rotted away in Hanoi.  Oh yeah, how about a half TRILLION dollar budget deficit from the outgoing presidency?  Happy with that are you?  You can bet your azz that Bush and Cheney haven't felt the economic troubles that most of us have.  And you gripe about the possibility of free education and medical coverage for US residents?  As for being a good candidate for the US presidency, Bush and McCain are two sides of the same right wing, redneck, old boy network, counterfeit coin.  Vote your conscience and hopefully the best man will win.
I'm with you.
 
, hes an Idiot...soon after hes elected we as a country will suffer massive economic hardship.....oh well, our enemies want him elected so he must be just the guy we need
I'm constantly amazed at the idiotic things I read concerning Obama. Do you call the current economy thriving? Just because it hasn't been felt in all the industries, the effects of a stagnant economy hits us in the face every day. As a country we are ready for radicl change. It's not socialism, it's just not heavily weighted towards those earning in excess of 250K a year. His plan to save the social security system, for instance. Read. Please, read.
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If you want eight more years in Iraq and Afghanistan and lots more American deaths, what's it up to now, 3,000 or is it 4,000?, go ahead and vote for McCain.  He's not only too old, he's a conquered man.  Hanoi did that to him.  His own government let him sit in the Hilton for far too many years as it did all the others that rotted away in Hanoi.  Oh yeah, how about a half TRILLION dollar budget deficit from the outgoing presidency?  Happy with that are you?  You can bet your azz that Bush and Cheney haven't felt the economic troubles that most of us have.  And you gripe about the possibility of free education and medical coverage for US residents?  As for being a good candidate for the US presidency, Bush and McCain are two sides of the same right wing, redneck, old boy network, counterfeit coin.  Vote your conscience and hopefully the best man will win.
Kind of funny how the Liberals complain about the 3-4K deaths caused by the war in a 5 year period, by those who voluntarily chose to join and fight to protect our great nation. However it's ok to abort that many babies a day, whom have no choice in the matter! Remember, some must die to protect the rights and freedom of others.
 
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