Nylon Pry Pin Removal

[Boomslanger]

OK I feel such a dunce at the moment.

I've removed dozens of pushpins in my time with no problems except for the odd stuck or broken one being difficult.

I went to remove the left side fairing for a SpeedoHealer installation and followed the video on fairing removal here. I came across an immediate problem when attempting to remove the fairing nylon pry-pins. I have not come across this type of nylon pin before and watching the video several times it looked like the flat headed screw driver was being used to pry up the centre of the pin to unlock it.

When I tried this, being as gentle as possible, the head immediately snapped off.

I've spent a lot of time searching for instructions on how to remove these pins and no one gives specific instructions on this, most assuming that you know how to do it and tell "remove push pin". The problem is there are different types of pins and as is the case with the Busa you can have more than one type. Also I've discovered most places give the wrong description for the different types of pins, calling pry-pins push-pins. On top of that they are called different things and spelt differently across the board. Nylon: push rivet, pry rivet, pushpin, push-pin, push pin, prypin, pry-pin and pry pin, with the terms often mixed up to describe the wrong item. This is important because a pry-rivet or pry-pin is not removed the same way as a push-rivet or push-pin.

So, to get the heart of the matter, how do you correctly remove a pry-pin or pry-rivet, that is the ones on the outer fairing?

 

[RYC1966]

If it has a dot in the center...use an ice pick or something and push it through...that will release the fastener.

 

[Boomslanger]

It's not the ones with the dot in the centre, as I stated I've easily removed dozens of them on my previous bikes. The Busa has two different types, the centre push pin type and the other that I assumed was a pry-pin, which are the ones located on the outer fairing pieces and dashes.

 

[twotonevert]

It's not the ones with the dot in the centre, as I stated I've easily removed dozens of them on my previous bikes. The Busa has two different types, the centre push pin type and the other that I assumed was a pry-pin, which are the ones located on the outer fairing pieces and dashes.

I have always used a flat blade screwdriver on those type of pins.

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[Boomslanger]

Thanks twotonevert. That's what I tried and gently pried up. I followed what I was seeing on the video but immediately on putting gentle upward pressure, the head of the nylon pin snapped off.

Is there a proper method for removing them, like having to insert the blade of the screwdriver all the way into the slot, or applying pressure some other way?

 

[twotonevert]

Thanks twotonevert. That's what I tried and gently pried up. I followed what I was seeing on the video but immediately on putting gentle upward pressure, the head of the nylon pin snapped off.

Is there a proper method for removing them, like having to insert the blade of the screwdriver all the way into the slot, or applying pressure some other way?

Not that I am aware of. I usually just gently pry it up. Just make sure you pry it straight up. There is most likely a proper tool besides a screw driver. I have also twisted the blade gently to pop it out.

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[Blanca BusaLess]

If you watched the video which I'm assuming is mine tell me exactly what pin it is or which pins?
I may have some extras for you since you snapped one off. I'm not sure on that.
But anyway yes if it has a pin inside center it pushes in to pop whole thing out, if it has a big flat head with slot on side for pry tool that's all you do is slowly pry it up. Try an ever so small amount of wd40 on the rest before you try to lift them out. Dont twist the screwdriver in slot. Just lift or pull out with steady pressure. Maybe new maybe just a bad pin? Who knows? They are cheap plastic and may break. If you or anyone in your family owns a Japanese car you can 'borrow' one or two from the fender wells

 

[mr8ball]

If it snapped the head off you should be able to just push it on through.

 

[jphilipson]

Sounds like it was just a bum pin. Push the pin through, pull and replace. You should always have a bag of each type of pin around just in case - they break all the time.

 

[Boomslanger]

Thanks for the replies and interest.

It was your video Blanca that I watched several times.

It is a pry-rivet, the one with the big fat head. Located at the top of the black side dash panel, connecting into the upper frame. The one you have to move the handlebar out of the way to get to and the one you state to rotate to get leverage on the panel plastic, which is what I did.

Looks like I must have had a stuck rivet but to make sure I have the procedure right.

You insert a flat bladed screw driver all the way into the slot, one with a blade that is not too wide for the slot. You then gently pry up on the rivet to pop it and then remove the rivet by hand.

The first picture shows the right hand side that I haven't touched, the second one the left hand side I broke.

 

[jphilipson]

Yeap, just a bad pin. Push the center through, and remove. Then replace with a new one. You were doing it right using the screw driver to pop up the center pin. That's what the slots are for.

 

[Boomslanger]

Thanks. I'll order some spares of all types (have some centre push ones left over from my previous V-Strom) and hold off the SpeedoHealer install until they arrive.

Next time I'll WD40 before attempting removal and I'll put Baagoo on the rivets when reinserting them.

 

[Blanca BusaLess]

Yep on that one just insert pry tool and use panel for leverage to pull up and out. Caca happens. Looks just like a bad pin. Find a jap car and look in the fender wells. My Honda accord had exact same ones in it.
You only need a drop of wd40 on it to loosen things up. Sometimes the head may stick and just a drop around it may help.

 

[jphilipson]

Hint:

BOLTâ„¢ SPORTBIKE/SCOOTER PLASTIC CLIP ASSORTMENT from Tucker Rocky Offroad

 

[Boomslanger]

Boomslanger is in Australia.

I sourced V-Strom rivets easily enough so I should have no troubles with these. Plenty of wrecked Jap cars around my ways as well so I'll go have a look and if worse comes to worse I'll order online. Plenty of good info here on size and type as well as sources.

Thanks all.

 

[RYC1966]

These are what work best $5 - $10

 

[Boomslanger]

Are they a common tool RYC, and what are they called?

I have several well stocked automotive shops near me and a couple of tool specialists.

 

[jphilipson]

Are they a common tool RYC, and what are they called?

I have several well stocked automotive shops near me and a couple of tool specialists.

It's a push-pin pliers.


Actually, his pic comes up for the first search result lol

KD Tools (KD 3888) 80 Degree Push Pin Plier, Jane's Tote


Cheaper to just break pins every now and then, since they wear out from weather anyway, and it's good to keep them replaced and fresh.

 

[RYC1966]

There is a set of three...different angles for the jaws...they should be easy to find. Car panels / bumpers are held on with a similar fasterer and the right tool makes life way easier

 

[Boomslanger]

Thank all, a wealth of information and good advice.

Special thanks to Blanca Busa for the good video on panel removal/installation.