Tips on Gas

JBradley0181

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Got this in a e~mail today thought i would share sorry if a repost and please chime in if this stuff is true im sure we could all use to safe a few $ at the pump
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TIPS ON PUMPING GAS (Good information)
I don't know what you guys are paying for gasoline.... but
here in California we are also paying higher, up to $3.50
per gallon. But my line of work is in petroleum for about 31
years now, so here are some tricks to get more of your
money's worth for every gallon..

Here at the Kinder Morgan Pipeline where I work in San
Jose , CA we deliver about 4 million gallons in a 24-hour
period thru the pipeline. One day is diesel the next day is
jet fuel, and gasoline, regular and premium grades. We have
34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of 16,800,000
gallons.

Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning
when the ground temperature is still cold. Remember that all
service stations have their storage tanks buried below
ground. The colder the ground the more dense the gasoline,
when it gets warmer gasoline expands, so buying in the
afternoon or in the evening....your gallon is not exactly a
gallon. In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and
the temperature of the gasoline, diesel and jet fuel,
ethanol and other petroleum products plays an important
role. A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this
business. But the service stations do not have temperature
compensation at the pumps.

When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the
nozzle to a fast mode. If you look you will see that the
trigger has three (3) stages: low, middle, and high. In slow
mode you should be pumping on low speed, thereby minimizing
the vapors that are created while you are pumping. All hoses
at the pump have a vapor return. If you are pumping on the
fast rate, some of the liquid that goes to your tank becomes
vapor. Those vapors are being sucked up and back into the
underground storage tank so you're getting less worth for
your money.


One of the most important tips is to fill up when your gas
tank is HALF FULL or HALF EMPTY. The reason for this is, the
more gas you have in your tank the less air occupying its
empty space. Gasoline evaporates faster than you can
imagine. Gasoline storage tanks have an internal floating
roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the gas and
the atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation. Unlike
service stations, here where I work, every truck that we
load is temperature compensated so that every gallon is
actually the exact amount.
Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping
into the storage tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill
up--most likely the gasoline is being stirred up as the gas
is being delivered, and you might pick up some of the dirt
that normally settles on the bottom.

Hope this will help you get the most value for your money.

DO SHARE THESE TIPS WITH OTHERS!
 
The news down in Phoenix had an article on just how much you lose due to the heat. (I think that was it)

It was mind boggling for sure.

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That article is mostly crap sorry to say...

Yes thermal expansion is an issue but it is by the season , not the day.. (it is not going to change hourly but more weekly)

Pumps are also calibrated at a positive displacement (flow rate has no bearing on accuracy)

Evaporation: sorry EPA pressurized fuel systems 20+ year ago.. you are not going to evaporate any measurable amount out of your tank.

All the rest is equally urban foolishness... although the principals are correct, in the real world, it does not pan out...
 
That article is mostly crap sorry to say...

Yes thermal expansion is an issue but it is by the season , not the day.. (it is not going to change hourly but more weekly)

Pumps are also calibrated at a positive displacement (flow rate has no bearing on accuracy)

Evaporation: sorry EPA pressurized fuel systems 20+ year ago.. you are not going to evaporate any measurable amount out of your tank.

All the rest is equally urban foolishness... although the principals are correct, in the real world, it does not pan out...
+1 I seem to agree.
 
I thought they were interesting tips, but I dont have patience to put the trigger on slow or medium.... or to fill up my tank when its at 1/2. I get that tank dead empty before I fill it.
 
That article is mostly crap sorry to say...

Yes thermal expansion is an issue but it is by the season , not the day..  (it is not going to change hourly but more weekly)

Pumps are also calibrated at a positive displacement (flow rate has no bearing on accuracy)

Evaporation: sorry EPA pressurized fuel systems 20+ year ago.. you are not going to evaporate any measurable amount out of your tank.

All the rest is equally urban foolishness... although the principals are correct, in the real world, it does not pan out...
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Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping
into the storage tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill
up--most likely the gasoline is being stirred up as the gas
is being delivered, and you might pick up some of the dirt
that normally settles on the bottom.

This is a true statement my girlfriend got gas when a tanker was filling and when she got around a mile away the check engine light came on car was missing and going nuts. She was on a 70 mile trip so when she got room in the tank to add fuel the car ran better and after that tank of gas was ran out the check engine light went out car ran fine.
 
Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping
into the storage tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill
up--most likely the gasoline is being stirred up as the gas
is being delivered, and you might pick up some of the dirt
that normally settles on the bottom.

This is a true statement my girlfriend got gas when a tanker was filling and when she got around a mile away the check engine light came on car was missing and going nuts. She was on a 70 mile trip so when she got room in the tank to add fuel the car ran better and after that tank of gas was ran out the check engine light went out car ran fine.
You are not going to get any "dirt", there are at least 3 filters between you and the tanks.. Adding "fuel" to the tank is not going to make the filters come clean on your GF's car, once they are dirty, they stay dirty.

Water on the other hand "can" be an issue.. a bad load of fuel never goes away or if they stir water up in the tank (usually an inch or 2 in the tanks) it can make its way to your car.. (this is only if the tanks were empty for the most part)

How do I know this stuff? I was a petroleum transfer engineer all through school
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and had to monitor storage tanks tanks as well.

(gas jockey that had to stick the tanks every night and check water levels)
 
Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping
into the storage tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill
up--most likely the gasoline is being stirred up as the gas
is being delivered, and you might pick up some of the dirt
that normally settles on the bottom.

This is a true statement my girlfriend got gas when a tanker was filling and when she got around a mile away the check engine light came on car was missing and going nuts. She was on a 70 mile trip so when she got room in the tank to add fuel the car ran better and after that tank of gas was ran out the check engine light went out car ran fine.
You are not going to get any "dirt",  there are at least 3 filters between you and the tanks..  Adding "fuel" to the tank is not going to make the filters come clean on your GF's car, once they are dirty, they stay dirty.

Water on the other hand "can" be an issue..  a bad load of fuel never goes away or if they stir water up in the tank (usually  an inch or 2 in the tanks) it can make its way to your car.. (this is only if the tanks were empty for the most part)

How do I know this stuff?  I was a petroleum transfer engineer all through school
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 and had to monitor storage tanks tanks as well.

(gas jockey that had to stick the tanks every night and check water levels)
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Randy, Is there anything you don't frickin know about?

You remind me of Yoda
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