The Canary In The Coal Mine of Democracy

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Martin Niemöller was a pastor in Germany during the rise and fall of Adolf Hitler. His most famous quote (for which he was sent to a German concentration camp) goes as follows:

First, they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a communist.
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.


Is this yet another googled comparison of Trump and Hitler you ask? Well sort of, but it's a bit deeper than that. Aside from all the death and destruction, Hitler wrote the book (literally) on how to execute a hostile takeover of a modern, advanced western parliamentary democracy. It's no secret that Trump idolized Adolf, and his books may be the only books Trump has actually studied. In any event, Niemöller's observations essentially outline the strategy for co-opting a modern democratic government.

First, note that in Niemöller's quote, the first three groups “they came for” were communists, socialists, and trade unionists. What all of these groups have in common is that they theoretically elevated the proletariat (workers) to challenge the bourgeois (property owners). In many ways, WWII’s disruptive influence ushered in an industrial age that had as its basis democracy. But that’s another topic, maybe to be addressed in another post.

So why even bother with democracy if your ultimate goal is single party or dictatorial control? The answer is that democracies are the most productive governing systems devised to date. Oppressing an entire country takes an extensive amount of resources and would be perpetually dangerously unstable. Further, the population won’t give their best effort in building a strong economy when they have no perceived control over outcomes. It follows then that if you want to control a country, maintaining the impression of some level of an empowered majority is essential.

Taking over a democracy means controlling who can vote. It’s very difficult (maybe impossible) to do this across the board so an aspiring dictator must use a distraction tactic. Pick a minority and adjust the laws to limit their access to the political process. The public is not going to react until “They come for me”, so it’s possible to make fairly invasive changes to the rules governing eligibility and access. While the electorate is focused on the minority, they don’t even notice that the laws squeezing down voting rights don’t say “Blacks cannot vote” – they just reduce access to the political process in a way that those in control can disenfranchise any decenters. Remember, while the general population is focused on keeping the minorities behind them, the aspiring dictator is primarily focused on how to manipulate the majority into obedience.

In any democratic system, minorities (religious, gender, race, or simple demographics) are the canaries in the “democratic coal mines”. When the canary falls to the bottom of the cage, it warns of a threat that will eventually imperil the miners too. And this, to a great extent, is why Black Lives Matter.
 
Martin Niemöller was a pastor in Germany during the rise and fall of Adolf Hitler. His most famous quote (for which he was sent to a German concentration camp) goes as follows:

First, they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a communist.
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.


Is this yet another googled comparison of Trump and Hitler you ask? Well sort of, but it's a bit deeper than that. Aside from all the death and destruction, Hitler wrote the book (literally) on how to execute a hostile takeover of a modern, advanced western parliamentary democracy. It's no secret that Trump idolized Adolf, and his books may be the only books Trump has actually studied. In any event, Niemöller's observations essentially outline the strategy for co-opting a modern democratic government.

First, note that in Niemöller's quote, the first three groups “they came for” were communists, socialists, and trade unionists. What all of these groups have in common is that they theoretically elevated the proletariat (workers) to challenge the bourgeois (property owners). In many ways, WWII’s disruptive influence ushered in an industrial age that had as its basis democracy. But that’s another topic, maybe to be addressed in another post.

So why even bother with democracy if your ultimate goal is single party or dictatorial control? The answer is that democracies are the most productive governing systems devised to date. Oppressing an entire country takes an extensive amount of resources and would be perpetually dangerously unstable. Further, the population won’t give their best effort in building a strong economy when they have no perceived control over outcomes. It follows then that if you want to control a country, maintaining the impression of some level of an empowered majority is essential.

Taking over a democracy means controlling who can vote. It’s very difficult (maybe impossible) to do this across the board so an aspiring dictator must use a distraction tactic. Pick a minority and adjust the laws to limit their access to the political process. The public is not going to react until “They come for me”, so it’s possible to make fairly invasive changes to the rules governing eligibility and access. While the electorate is focused on the minority, they don’t even notice that the laws squeezing down voting rights don’t say “Blacks cannot vote” – they just reduce access to the political process in a way that those in control can disenfranchise any decenters. Remember, while the general population is focused on keeping the minorities behind them, the aspiring dictator is primarily focused on how to manipulate the majority into obedience.

In any democratic system, minorities (religious, gender, race, or simple demographics) are the canaries in the “democratic coal mines”. When the canary falls to the bottom of the cage, it warns of a threat that will eventually imperil the miners too. And this, to a great extent, is why Black Lives Matter.
Hi. I do not know but we see things 180 degrees apart. I have many " black" friends but to me they are Andy, Manny, Paul, Luis, Michael. And we go out of our way to help each other and make sure we are OK. I want every one to vote in person, and if they can not do that. Someone should help them pick up there ballet or mail in ballet. I do think you need an ID to vote, because you need them for every thing anyway. I do wish you would call I would like to talk to you. 508-496-3312.
 
Martin Niemöller was a pastor in Germany during the rise and fall of Adolf Hitler. His most famous quote (for which he was sent to a German concentration camp) goes as follows:

First, they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a communist.
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.


Is this yet another googled comparison of Trump and Hitler you ask? Well sort of, but it's a bit deeper than that. Aside from all the death and destruction, Hitler wrote the book (literally) on how to execute a hostile takeover of a modern, advanced western parliamentary democracy. It's no secret that Trump idolized Adolf, and his books may be the only books Trump has actually studied. In any event, Niemöller's observations essentially outline the strategy for co-opting a modern democratic government.

First, note that in Niemöller's quote, the first three groups “they came for” were communists, socialists, and trade unionists. What all of these groups have in common is that they theoretically elevated the proletariat (workers) to challenge the bourgeois (property owners). In many ways, WWII’s disruptive influence ushered in an industrial age that had as its basis democracy. But that’s another topic, maybe to be addressed in another post.

So why even bother with democracy if your ultimate goal is single party or dictatorial control? The answer is that democracies are the most productive governing systems devised to date. Oppressing an entire country takes an extensive amount of resources and would be perpetually dangerously unstable. Further, the population won’t give their best effort in building a strong economy when they have no perceived control over outcomes. It follows then that if you want to control a country, maintaining the impression of some level of an empowered majority is essential.

Taking over a democracy means controlling who can vote. It’s very difficult (maybe impossible) to do this across the board so an aspiring dictator must use a distraction tactic. Pick a minority and adjust the laws to limit their access to the political process. The public is not going to react until “They come for me”, so it’s possible to make fairly invasive changes to the rules governing eligibility and access. While the electorate is focused on the minority, they don’t even notice that the laws squeezing down voting rights don’t say “Blacks cannot vote” – they just reduce access to the political process in a way that those in control can disenfranchise any decenters. Remember, while the general population is focused on keeping the minorities behind them, the aspiring dictator is primarily focused on how to manipulate the majority into obedience.

In any democratic system, minorities (religious, gender, race, or simple demographics) are the canaries in the “democratic coal mines”. When the canary falls to the bottom of the cage, it warns of a threat that will eventually imperil the miners too. And this, to a great extent, is why Black Lives Matter.
So you think that some highly intellectual dead person wrote something that you can piggyback Trump as a Hitler lover isn't ridiculous... of course not, right? You say... sort of... hmmm....

The only time I remember president Trump involved in something you could call fascism is when he started operation Warp Speed and got big Pharma to ramp things up for the Covid scam... isn't that something a populist president would do? Or, is that what a dictator does? Hitler is synomonus with Castro, Mao, Mussolini, Pol Pot and other despots... who was president Trump killing in droves?

Trump was a populist president... the crowds that showed up to support him proved that. He also broke through the black vote barrier bigger than any other Pub in history... Your assessment is rubbish.

BLM? What a frigging scam that is... if you can't figure out what a real insurrection is then I guess you missed the events in Portland and other leftist controlled cities that let the mayhem rage out of control... 25 murdered in the name of civil injustice and over 2 billion in property damage nationwide... A mere pittance as compared to the other crimes in recent decades like the structured mortgage scam of 2008 and criminal act called 9-11

What happened to the leader of the BLM that quietly retired and banked enough money to buy 4 very nice homes? .

The election was rigged... the senior political hacks on both sides of the isle know how the game is played... they had plenty of good role models like LBJ... do you know one of his famous quotes?
Its.... Paraphrased... I will have those ni$$ers vote democrat for the rest of their lives... and what was he proposing?

His "Great Society" plan was to placate the black population with free stuff... housing, welfare, food stamps... whatever it takes to pander for votes... The multi story high rise slums have already recycled in Chicago... but the night blood bath continues nightly for drug dealing turf. The family units were decimated in the 60s, 70s, and beyond... have you noticed how well socialism works? If LBJ could see what Biden has done with the national debt he would be embarrassed to not even be in the same league a gropey sniffy Joe.

I dare you to watch the 911 Trillions by Jim Corbett and tell me you can't learn something from that criminal operation.

Or... you can always order a copy of Beyond Misinformation by the 9-11 A & E Truth people. 49 pages of the evidence doesn't fit the media's spin story that continues to this day. Keep repeating a lie long enough... yes... it could be right out of Saul Alinskys playbook... Rules for Radicals... One of Hillarys favorite books.

We have an even bigger problem facing us right now... but I won't bore you with the details because only a few here understand just how well the system is rigged. I will save that for a new thread.
 
This is a separatist mindset.

First, they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a communist.
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.


The man that wrote that saw himself as separate from the others he spoke of. That point is the downfall of this country and some other countries right now... the thinking that we are all different from each other in some meaningful way is preposterous... unless... you want to bet all your money on racism as if a black president didn't serve for two terms in this country... or to a black man that is serving honorably on the Supreme Court. If you talk to intellectuals like Thomas Sowell. This guy would rip up your argument for BLM in a minute. On top of that BLM leaders are facing criminal prosecution for running off with all the money they raised... its a joke. Playing the racist card is getting so old...

What about all the black on black killings going on in the inner cities?
What about all the Black Cops that have been gunned down?
Where is the outrage and action by the black community to end all of that, or even acknowledge it?
Perpetuating the scam... that is all you are doing.
Do we have racist people in this country? Yes... however, it isn't the widespread mental disorder you think it is... plenty of black people get my respect and even more from others... I have had black friends before... even worked for a couple... one taught me to drive truck when I was 18 so I could get a CDL.

 
Playing the racist card is getting so old...


Do we have racist people in this country? Yes... however, it isn't the widespread mental disorder you think it is... I have had black friends before... even worked for a couple... one taught me to drive truck when I was 18 so I could get a CDL.
You are completely out of touch as to how widespread this heinous disorder remains.
 
You are completely out of touch as to how widespread this heinous disorder remains.
You are out of touch with how big of tool it is by the left to divide us along any line they can get traction with. The race card got old along time ago when Obama was in the WH. He is one clever guy and used all the divisions he could use to divide us... like rainbow colored lights on the WH at night.

Many black men and women have risen above the swampy idiots that have nothing better to do than promote hatred against other races by crying about racism. I guess you forgot what happened in 1865 or 1964... its 2022 my divided Busa rider... yes, it still happens... and it still works both ways... black, white, yellow, brown people can mistreat any other color they are stigmatized by...

The only thing really keeping it alive are the leftist that will use anything they can to divide us.
 
Leftists rightists blah blah blah. Politics have nothing to do with racism.
Many black men and women have risen above the swampy idiots that have nothing better to do than promote hatred against other races by crying about racism
It's the cause, racism, that promotes hatred, not the effect. Yes, laws have limited the horrible crap that has gone on, but the original problem remains. It's not as widespread and thankfully not as socially accepted; as recently in the 90's blatant anti blacks remarks were made frequently to complete strangers here in southwest Missouri. People lower their voice and check the room now, but claim all you want that it's behind us; you're wrong. We are beyond enough is enough.
 
fallenarch had Trump Derangement Syndrome.

NO it does not have any similarities to President Trump. Indeed the Left through their ACTIONS and BEHAVIORS have demonstrated they are the fascist NAZI types!

 
The slaves of the U.S. south were just a byproduct of human tendencies so not a result of racism? Murder is older than slavery but a similar tendency? The point of that video is whites didn’t invent slavery so it’s not so a horrible mark in US history?
SS you posted that video what’s your point?
 
The slaves of the U.S. south were just a byproduct of human tendencies so not a result of racism? Murder is older than slavery but a similar tendency? The point of that video is whites didn’t invent slavery so it’s not so a horrible mark in US history?
SS you posted that video what’s your point?
Well your point is nothing but a STRAWMAN in the making. Where did you come up with all that?

Stop trying to make everything about race!
 
Strawman? What the heck are you talking about? The video is about slavery and race, you posted the video, I asked you what your point is.
 
Strawman? What the heck are you talking about? The video is about slavery and race, you posted the video, I asked you what your point is.
I am talking about how you restructured the point with questions calling for entire new points.

Why do you think slavery is no a problem because it was not invented by whites? It is what you imply with your question to a video that NEVER SAID such a thing and did not claim that slavery and racism was disconnected. Murder? I don't know what you mean here.

I guess you were plain old WHOOOOOSHED.

Please watch the video again and try to relate it to how the DSP plays the race card today.
 
I am talking about how you restructured the point with questions calling for entire new points.

Why do you think slavery is no a problem because it was not invented by whites? It is what you imply with your question to a video that NEVER SAID such a thing and did not claim that slavery and racism was disconnected. Murder? I don't know what you mean here.

I guess you were plain old WHOOOOOSHED.

Please watch the video again and try to relate it to how the DSP plays the race card today.
You’re right I projected you to be narrow minded. Silly me.
 
Logical and supported reasoning? About what? My point is that racism, though tempered by hate crime laws, is still as bad as ever. Spend some time in southwest Missouri and almost anywhere southeast of here and deny it.
 
Did you even watch the video you posted? "Slavery was not invented by white people?" So that makes it ok that slavery was widespread in the south? What's the point in pointing that out? History lesson? I don't think so. I see right through your point and it sickens me.
 
Logical and supported reasoning? About what? My point is that racism, though tempered by hate crime laws, is still as bad as ever. Spend some time in southwest Missouri and almost anywhere southeast of here and deny it.
I made no comment on racism being better or worse and have not commented on hate crime laws - where are you going with this?
 
Did you even watch the video you posted? "Slavery was not invented by white people?" So that makes it ok that slavery was widespread in the south? What's the point in pointing that out? History lesson? I don't think so. I see right through your point and it sickens me.
Slavery was not invented by whites - yeah......

"So that makes it OK..." Where the hell did you get that? Step away from Hunter's crack pipe!!!!!

It is clear that you do not see my point. Indeed I am not sure you understand even yourself based on the way you perceive and reply to posts here.
 
Slavery was not invented by whites - yeah......

"So that makes it OK..." Where the hell did you get that? Step away from Hunter's crack pipe!!!!!

It is clear that you do not see my point. Indeed I am not sure you understand even yourself based on the way you perceive and reply to posts here.
Hi. I wondered where my free crack pipe is? Mabe they all went to Hunter?
 
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