New Owner from Ohio

Mortumbra

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New owner here. Long time rider. Love reading through the forums and such. Here to gather knowledge from the hive mind. I already can tell I want this thing to go faster.
Shes a 2005 with 1800 miles, 6 inch stretch 16/43 gearing.
gonna send me ECU out this winter, just tryna find out who to send it to to flash it. That'll be my first mod mod.
Anyways happy to be here, much love.

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Congrats! Hard to find a clean '05 these days. Lots of good information here on all things that make this bike go faster.
 
Nice, that mileage is barely over 100 miles a month for 15 years! Hawdabeleeve! :D You’ll need the other front rotor and a chain guard.
You gonna have to dumb that one down for me chain guard and other front rotor? I'm supposed to have 2 on this thing? Lol.
Looks like it had a chain guard at some point, and maybe switching to a 16 in the front and 43 in the back could had something to do with it not being there anymore
 
You gonna have to dumb that one down for me chain guard and other front rotor? I'm supposed to have 2 on this thing? Lol.
Looks like it had a chain guard at some point, and maybe switching to a 16 in the front and 43 in the back could had something to do with it not being there anymore

Ha, yeah, two rotors up front. The chain guard will fit any sprocket size but may not fit extended swingarms depending on their length. I’ve also tried mirrors like those and they buzz so bad they’re useless. White (is) nice eh?
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Ha, yeah, two rotors up front. The chain guard will fit any sprocket size but may not fit extended swingarms depending on their length. I’ve also tried mirrors like those and they buzz so bad they’re useless. White (is) nice eh?View attachment 1629539
Lmao i didn't know i should have 2 rotors up there. Good to know lol. Well...those mirrors. They didn't last. I topped it out on the highway and one broke off at the bolt so when I got home took both off lol.
 
Lol right. Stole it for 5000 bones. What filter is recommended here? H&N?
I wouldn't bother with any aftermarket filter for anything. Brock is supposed to have a very good air filter but nobody is going to talk about what might be happening from small particles entering the intake. For me, an extra 2-5 hp at peak rpm isn't worth premature engine wear. I've tried a BMC race filter on my ZX-14 and it makes no palpable difference. If you race, go with a race filter otherwise, I think it's best to stick to an OEM for oil or air filter or anything else.

Looks like it had a chain guard at some point, and maybe switching to a 16 in the front and 43 in the back could had something to do with it not being there anymore
You don't need a chain guard. If you carry a passenger, that is probably a good reason to use one iherwise it's just extra weight. A steel one is really heavy but often required for racing...although I kind of doubt it would help much if the chain ever did come off or break at 100+ mph.

Well...those mirrors. They didn't last. I topped it out on the highway and one broke off at the bolt so when I got home took both off lol.
Get an inexpensive Chinese bar end mirror. You screw in a mount to the bar end and clamp it on. I have expensive CRGs on my ZX-14 and an el cheapo on the busa. The el cheapo optics are just as good. Pivots are almost as good as CRG. I think the Chinese one cost me $16 and they shipped me two. You might not be able to have that spike bar end though unless it has a long enough bolt to pass through the mirror mount.

LOL this explains why I can roll through.my front brake. Missing a brake calipers and rotor. Love it.
The busa has sucky brakes. The Gen1 was even worse than the Gen2. Some years of the Gen2 have Brembos and I'm sure they are better. I can lock the front of my Gen2 if I pull it to the grip. I'd definitely go with two rotors on a busa unless it was strictly for racing and it was worthwhile to shed the weight.

That is a real nice looking busa you got yourself there.
 
I wouldn't bother with any aftermarket filter for anything. Brock is supposed to have a very good air filter but nobody is going to talk about what might be happening from small particles entering the intake. For me, an extra 2-5 hp at peak rpm isn't worth premature engine wear. I've tried a BMC race filter on my ZX-14 and it makes no palpable difference. If you race, go with a race filter otherwise, I think it's best to stick to an OEM for oil or air filter or anything else.


You don't need a chain guard. If you carry a passenger, that is probably a good reason to use one iherwise it's just extra weight. A steel one is really heavy but often required for racing...although I kind of doubt it would help much if the chain ever did come off or break at 100+ mph.


Get an inexpensive Chinese bar end mirror. You screw in a mount to the bar end and clamp it on. I have expensive CRGs on my ZX-14 and an el cheapo on the busa. The el cheapo optics are just as good. Pivots are almost as good as CRG. I think the Chinese one cost me $16 and they shipped me two. You might not be able to have that spike bar end though unless it has a long enough bolt to pass through the mirror mount.


The busa has sucky brakes. The Gen1 was even worse than the Gen2. Some years of the Gen2 have Brembos and I'm sure they are better. I can lock the front of my Gen2 if I pull it to the grip. I'd definitely go with two rotors on a busa unless it was strictly for racing and it was worthwhile to shed the weight.

That is a real nice looking busa you got yourself there.
Appreciate it. So for mods to give me a lil more torque and a lil more power, just go with an ECU flash for now? It's completely stock as far as that goes. M4 full system prolly does a lil something, but beyond an ECU flash I can't see or think of anything g in the forum that isn't highly debated besides adding a stage 1 RCC. I see alot of debates on small airbox mod, stock filter vs k&n vs BMC etc. Which exhaust system etc. But it seems guaranteed agreed upon power increase is an ecu flash and tune, and then a stage 1. Those don't seem debated. I was thinking of sending it.to.powerhouse for a flash.
 
Powerhouse is good. You might also consider Boosted Cycle Performance out of Houston, cuz he happens to be one of our sponsors, but also because Rob is widely recognized as a specialist in tuning Busas - and that specialization is important IMO (check out his vids on youtube).

Not that big of a deal in your case - a mail-in flash will only get you so much. Moving forward, you will want a flash-tune. BCP does that, but Ohio isn't exactly close to Houston...

Hope this helps.

p.s. Do some research on oil filters here on this site. Although K&N air filters are worthwhile, their oil filters are a much more controversial subject. You'll see what I mean.

Good luck with your build!
 
:welcome: to the madness,Mort'.
I started experimenting with all the mods 18 years ago.You will get more ponies...its just a cost/time vs gains. Some mods will actually lose power in the low's,mid's,even hi's. Suzuki engineers are pretty smart.
The missing rotor...2 gives you 100% of the braking force offered from Gen I inferior brakes.1 gives you 50% less,kind of a no brainer.
Extended swingarms rarely come with tapped holes for chaingaurds.If a chain breaks,the force of the countershaft sprocket usually propells it forward,not up or back. It can take out the cases,but usually they fall to the ground. A chain gaurd may save "fly-off" from landing on the inside pantleg of yer ladies trousers...thats bad. :laugh:
In my opinion there is nothing wrong with a K&N air filter. My motor has know nothing else for 10 years. When I take it off to clean it,there is zero dirt on the inside or in my turbo. If you ask me,they clean well and actually clean more micro krap the dirtier they get.I don't really have a choice anyway,I need to sukk huge air.

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If you are not going to the drag strip,I'd lose the extended arm.(its what I tell everyone) They look cool,but serve no purpose on the street. I would spend mod money on tires,suspension and brakes.My bike is fairly qwik,but it handles like crap. :laugh: 4" over arm,330 rear tire and air-ride suspension.
Every corner is an' adventure and the pucker factor can be huge. To each his own thou my friend. You will love being a member of the Org,
Rubb.
 
Powerhouse is GOOD. Some shakeups with Frank happened here on the forum but he's one of the very best. IDK the whole story but that is who I would go to for turbo. I have never had a flash on either bike. I don't see how it is a whole lot different than the modules that were used in the past. A PC5 is often still used even with a flash. he main thing is a flash will get your timing and secondary flies derestricted. The fueling is sometimes done via PC5 as mentioned...or you can adjust fueling on top of whatever flash you get.

Here's the honest truth: I have used the PC5 fuel map of a highly respected tuner for my ZX-14. I further refined that with Autotune in numerous high speed runs. The changes in fueling after Autotune were fairly considerable I think. I added or subtracted about 20 units of fuel in some cells I believe. I really do not notice a huge difference between the tuner's map and mine. The difference is also subtle compared to the map I used from another well respected tuner for my exact exhaust and I really did not notice an eye opening difference with that from stock. The OEM exhaust isn't bad and with that, the stock fueling is ok. It might not make the best AFR at every rpm/TP but the motor runs well and it has gobs of power. I much prefer my aftermarket full system for bragging rights, sound and definitely the weight loss but I don't think I go faster on the street because I have a full system. So I have a hunch you might as well go straight to turbo if you feel your busa doesn't have enough power for you! I have not played with timing yet but I suspect derestricting that will yeild more of a noticeable change than fueling alone does. Flies, I hear you can't derestrict those unless you flash.
 
One thing that will get your attention a bit is going to shorter gearing. I have done that on my ZX-14 and I really like it. The bike will still do 190 or close to it but the bike revs under load much quicker. The feel of my ZX-14 is savage compared to my busa with stock gearing. The busa loves to wheelie and if you go a few teeth up on the back, it will be a freegin animal! I just received a new chain and sprockets and went +4 on the rear. Keep a watch for my thread, I will be testing the fit of stock length chain with a +4 rear and also with raising links and +4 rear. Mind you, your Gen1 will be different with the stock chain bing a different length (I think) than the Gen2 but you might get some ideas.

If you are into corner carving, a 200/55 rear will make a difference you can feel. I expect the raising links from Schnitz I'm putting on will do so a lot more and also improve appearance in my view. Again, I don't have the skill to use even all of my 200/55 but hey, at least I can feel the potential that is there! If I can't feel a performance mod, I'm underwhelmed and a bit disappointed as much as I just love cool aftermarket parts.

You will feel turbo. No question there.
 
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