My one and only political thread. First and Last.

[dragonbusa]

this thread is point less, I would vote for pee wee herman over obama. how the hell do you not compare the two when making a choice on who to vote for? I dont like romney, but obama is bringing my country to its knees on all fronts. he skipped the UN summit to be on dam the view? are you frigging kidding me!

 

[GsxrBots]

this thread is point less

You are right. I wish it could be deleted. I was looking for reasons to vote for Romney not having to do with how Obama did. I got like 2 reasons. I'm still voting for Ron Paul.

Mods please delete..

 

[dk55belair]

If Obama is re-elected, maybe we can tell our grandkids the story about how we lived in the USA before we lost all our freedoms and Socialism took over.

Romney isnt a Socialist.

 

[skydivr]

You are right. I wish it could be deleted. I was looking for reasons to vote for Romney not having to do with how Obama did. I got like 2 reasons. I'm still voting for Ron Paul.

Mods please delete..

No reason to delete Bots, it might make you feel 'uncomfortable' but as long as it doesn't disslolve into insults, it's ok. Some of the problems we have in America is that people are 'uncomfortable with feeling uncomfortable' which is just a coward's way of avoiding the problem, and the longer we avoid it the worse it gets.

I gave you several good reasons without mentioning Obama. While there are certainly some parts of Paul's platform that I agree with, I can't agree with his foreign policy just too far out there. Paul's name won't even be on the ballot unless you write it in, and by voting for him you split the conservative vote (because MOST Paul supporters are mostly conservative) - so by voting for Paul, you just voted for Obama....why bother voting at all?

If Paul had to vote ONLY for Obama or vote for Romney, he'd vote Romney - even though he wouldn't like it, he's more conservative than he is liberal.

 

[GsxrBots]

why bother voting at all?

Because even if Obama gets elected again, I'm not going to passively sit by and let the "party" system choose my candidates.. I'm going to vote for who I believe will actually do something. And its neither of the two that are "running" currently.

 

[BusaWhipped]

You are right. I wish it could be deleted. I was looking for reasons to vote for Romney not having to do with how Obama did. I got like 2 reasons. I'm still voting for Ron Paul.

Mods please delete..

No need for deletion. There is no way to decide on who to vote for without making comparisons. When you say you will vote for Ron Paul because of this or that you are saying the other guy isn't going to do this or that. The media bias and hypocrisy makes it nearly impossible to know what any of the candidates really stand for or against. The only thing for sure is that presentation is more important than substance.

 

[BusaWhipped]

Because even if Obama gets elected again, I'm not going to passively sit by and let the "party" system choose my candidates.. I'm going to vote for who I believe will actually do something. And its neither of the two that are "running" currently.

Unfortunately, the current situation is the parties pick the candidates and our selection is limited to who they provide. A nonparty vote in this election is the same as a vote for Obama. George Washington warned against forming political parties. We were not smart enough to heed his words.

 

[GsxrBots]

The only thing for sure is that presentation is more important than substance.

If that was the case, I'd vote for Obama. He's a great BS-er..

 

[m_ridgeway]

Because even if Obama gets elected again, I'm not going to passively sit by and let the "party" system choose my candidates.. I'm going to vote for who I believe will actually do something. And its neither of the two that are "running" currently.

Thats a pretty huge problem with the republican part, they've gotten so out of touch theyve split their voters. While I agree with what you said, a wasted vote is a vote for obama, which while I dont agree with some things about romney, I dont agree with more of obamas politics.

 

[skydivr]

Because even if Obama gets elected again, I'm not going to passively sit by and let the "party" system choose my candidates.. I'm going to vote for who I believe will actually do something. And its neither of the two that are "running" currently.

Where's Saiid and that Rush video?

Romney's not my favorite conservative candidate, but like it or not he's still the ONLY CHOICE OTHER THAN OBAMA and MOST IMPORTANTLY, his parties' policies, so he becomes the choice. Since Romney's the underdog and the closest of the two competing parties to your favorite, voting for anyone but him actually HURTS your chance at your voice being heard. Kinda like shooting your nose off to spite yourself. You may not like it bots, but the Paul supporters need to get the hissy fit over with and use their brains rather than your emotions. Get with the program man. Get the party in office you can most closely align with, then work within that party to adjust. Vote your conscience in the primaries; vote your party in the general election. Believe me, when the Republicans do something I don't agree with, I'm going to sound off about it too.

If you really vote for Paul, then you lose all justification to complain about Obama ever again, cause you will have just helped elect him.

 

[BusaWhipped]

If that was the case, I'd vote for Obama. He's a great BS-er..

Exactly why the majority of his followers are still with him.

 

[skydivr]

A strength of the Democrats is that they do all their sniping at each other in the Primaries, and get over it by the General, because they understand what splitting the General vote does to ANY chance of their party getting elected. The Republican's make this same mistake of putting their principles over reality time and time again (Ron Paul, Ross Perot). And while I AM a man of principle, I must also face the unemotional reality of picking between the two choices that actually present themselves.

 

[limpytheduck]

I'd support a goat over the current President. The only reason I'm voting for Romney is because he is the alternative.

 

[StromBusa]

The thing is, money does not grow on trees. We can all understand the feel good mentality of yes lets help here or lets help there, or isn't is nice to do this or that. However, all the charity needs to be questioned when we run out of money. This is where we are, & digging in deep quick. It is time to get the engines running, and pull the ticks off the dogs. Hey, if we were running out of places to put our $, we could prolly survive three terms of the liberal Robin Hood. The laws of nature are just about to descend on our adzes like a ton of brick. Can any one say "non-sustainable"? Let me tell you about nature. When one of my bee hives have problems, the neighbors don't bring assistance, they raid the weak to extinction, and the strong survive. We need to get a real economy back to life, where people work, earn, save, buy, and pay. On our own. Else, we won't be able to pay jack s#it.

 

[GsxrBots]

A strength of the Democrats is that they do all their sniping at each other in the Primaries, and get over it by the General, because they understand what splitting the General vote does to ANY chance of their party getting elected. The Republican's make this same mistake of putting their principles over reality time and time again (Ron Paul, Ross Perot). And while I AM a man of principle, I must also face the unemotional reality of picking between the two choices that actually present themselves.

My whole point is there are Obama supporters and Obama haters. There are NO Romney supporters. They are only "supporting" Romney because and only because he is running against Obama.

Not a good enough reason to vote for him. Just like voting based on skin color..

 

[skydivr]

My whole point is there are Obama supporters and Obama haters. There are NO Romney supporters. They are only "supporting" Romney because and only because he is running against Obama.

Not a good enough reason to vote for him. Just like voting based on skin color..

Are you voting on one man or the party/views he represents? I'm not voting a popularity contest, I gave that up after high school and a season of American Idol. You may not like the choices, but that doesn't change the unemotional fact that there are only two choices to make, and any other choice leads to one or the other original two.

 

[GsxrBots]

Are you voting on one man or the party/views he represents? I'm not voting a popularity contest, I gave that up after high school and a season of American Idol. You may not like the choices, but that doesn't change the unemotional fact that there are only two choices to make, and any other choice leads to one or the other original two.

So if you were a Ford guy and they started making Chevy trucks with a Ford logo on the front, you'd keep buying them because that's all they offered?

Or would you switch brands and buy a Dodge/Toyota/Nissan? My point is just like EVERYTHING else in life, I'm tired of being a sheep led to the slaughter. I'm gonna make my own path and if we don't start doing that then the system will never realize that we aren't sheep. I'm done.. If you guys want to sit around and "baaaaah" have at it. I'm tired.

 

[sixpack577]

Search this word

DHIMMITUDE

It's in ObamaCare.
Draw your own conclusion.

 

[GsxrBots]

Search this word

DHIMMITUDE

It's in ObamaCare.
Draw your own conclusion.

snopes.com: Health Insurance Exemptions

 

[fallenarch]

Wow, I actually had to sleep on this overnight. Who is this guy, cause I'd vote for him! That's some really wild crack, Arch...talk about 'rose-colored lenses' that's one heck of a set you have.

I will give him credit for this: He isn't stoopid, but I'm sorry some of the things you say above just don't compute:

1. Barney Frank and Frank Dodd aren't well known for being right-wingers, so I'd like to know specifically which right wingers you refer to...

2. Government managing ANYTHING efficiently, is like giving your teenage son a box of condoms, your open credit card and dropping him off in front of the largest cathouse in Nevada and telling him to spend frugally. Cause they've managed the welfare, medicade and Social Securty systems SO well....

3. Bush did the hard part for him (the actual invasion part) (oh, and he campaigned HEAVILY against it); he gets to do the same thing, yet blame someone else the entire time. Gotta give him credit for being slick over that one.

4. Yet he crowed the loudest that he would end Gitmo - and he actually wanted to try the terrorists in NEW YORK CITY FEDERAL COURT, giving them the same protections as citizens...jeez...Actually, I think the tipping point that got him the Presidency WAS his anti-war stance, and the mood of the country tiring of a long war.

5. He didn't bail out the Auto INDUSTRY nearly as much as he bailed out the Auto UNION, who kept their pension plans intact, and they got a HUGE chunk of stock in the new company that they immediately sold. The one's that got killed were the bondholders and the suppliers...the INDUSTRY itself would have recovered, and could have broken the UAW's grip making them competitive with the likes of Toyota at the same time...but it didn't happen, so now it's "union business as usual"...

6. Yes, he did. And so would have GWB. And most likey Romney given the same intel and circumstance. But GWB and Romney I doubt would have got on TV and TOOK THE CREDIT in the shameful way that Obama did. "I", "I" and "I". GWB would have said "THEY", "THEY" and "THEY" giving credit where it was truly due. By default as the CINC he also get's credit, but should have never TAKEN credit.

7. Does he get to take credit for cleaning up the spill too? Wait a sec, he DID BAN Offshore drilling for MONTHS. Most of the Oil rigs left the gulf and went to Brazil for goodness sakes. I actually happen to know something about this; we have a location in NOLA that does business with the oil services companies - It KILLED several of them and they STILL haven't gotten it back. This is also the President that blocked the pipleline project guarantying us a huge, easy, and cheap supply of oil from our Canadian allies, who are now thinking of sending it to China instead. That was a SMAM DUNK and he blew it. And let's not bring up his success with projects like Solyndra...

8. Agreed, skillful maneauvering that puts the country at risk. Can't argue this one.

9. Agreed. So is Romney and so should be EVERY President we select. Yet the Dems just LOVE slick willie.

10. Because "cool" is the #1 reason to make a guy President.

11. I'm not so sure about that, but he's had plenty of others carry the race banner for him so he doesn't have to. And you can't deny that a large demograpic of the population is voting for him SOLELY because of the race he's now claiming...

I have yet to see anything in the above that makes me think he's got the talent and skills to get out country out of the hole we have dug ourselves into.

Well now we are really going around and around. Some of your opinions expressed above are just the ramblings of a guy who isn't going to give Obama credit for anything no matter how far into his rear he has to reach for a response. Well, one thing is for sure, you have the right to vote for whomever you want. I think it's ashame for people to fall into the trap of thinking they are a victim and can't change their politican predicament. I will never except that.