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Every once in awhile the general pulse of the site get's out of whack, rumors get going and the rumors can be worse than the truth.
It never ceases to amaze me that it doesn't matter how many times we try to really do the right thing someone gets upset. We have so many people on the forum these days that there are differing opinions and someone is going to be offended. We do our best to sort out the real intentions of people, if someone post up a topic or makes a comment that just accidentally came out wrong then so be it, but if someone is working to provoke a response we will sometimes step in and maybe send a pm, maybe edit the post a little or maybe just delete the entire post if it doesnt seem to be a heavily followed thread and it would just make the problem go away..
We simply provide a place for people to get together and we try to do that without it costing a member a single penny, our goal has always been to have the site paid for by advertising. We wanted the site to be accessible by anyone, from a soldier serving in the desert to a single dad that is just getting by. The site is what we all make it, I am really tired of people expecting the mods and admins to not only provide the servers and software but they want the site to be just what they want. I asked this question the other day, what have you done for the org lately? People that keep saying the org isn't what it used to be, is that my fault? I don't think that I control the members, if the site isn't what you want then step up and make the changes.
Being a part of a group like the org means that you don't just sit around and complain all the time but you serve. If you don't like things the way they are then I challenge you to step it up and reach out to others, if you want new features then make suggestions.
I have never been a guy to just sit around and be a victim, if I want change I am usually the first person to step up and start taking action. Let me give you a good example, Eric, Dr E started the cookie thread because he wanted to reach out to others, he is serving the org with his idea and keeping the idea going.
For those that just sit back and armchair quarterback every move that is made I ask you each, are you taking more from the org and complaining about the problems or are you actually doing something about it. The more people we see on the site the more differing opinions we will have, having only typed messges and not being able to see faces or hear voices we often times read into post what we want to see.
I do take things personally on this site, when people make accusations that I deleted post or that I just want to hold the members down it sounds ridiculas. When I read that people think I read PM's or that I delete their post because I have nothing better to do then they just don't know me. We get complaints all the time, daily about one thread or the other, someone disagrees about a post or a picture or a comment. There is no way that we can email or PM everyone each time that we get a complaint or concern. There are by far more of you than there is of the mods and admins, throwing more people at the problem and having more mods isnt the answer either. What we really need is people to remember who we are, what we do, and look at the history of the site. The mods and admins do not randomly go through post and delete content, we don't target members and we just don't have the time to send messages and deal with all the problems at the same time.
We only ask that members think about what they post, if they want change they step up to the occasion and if you have a true concern that you would contact me before posting censorship all over the Internet.
I have in recent days removed a few accounts of some longstanding members from this site for going on the Internet and complaining about this site and then coming right back to enjoy the benifits of what we have to offer. You can't have it both ways, people that email or post up on other forums that they hate it here and that we are going downhill seem to be a cancer to the site and they need to be disconnected and cut away. It's interesting that people will broadcast that they are not going to come back to the Org but when their account is locked out they scream censorship and unfairness.
Just remember that we need people to do the right thing, I know I live each day striving to do the best I can, I can't please everyone but I think we do pretty good.
I simply need your help to not think the worst when you disagree with a decision. Usually when the truth comes to the surface most people understand and agree with our decision making process...
Enjoy the site.... and contribute back to the cause...
cap
It never ceases to amaze me that it doesn't matter how many times we try to really do the right thing someone gets upset. We have so many people on the forum these days that there are differing opinions and someone is going to be offended. We do our best to sort out the real intentions of people, if someone post up a topic or makes a comment that just accidentally came out wrong then so be it, but if someone is working to provoke a response we will sometimes step in and maybe send a pm, maybe edit the post a little or maybe just delete the entire post if it doesnt seem to be a heavily followed thread and it would just make the problem go away..
We simply provide a place for people to get together and we try to do that without it costing a member a single penny, our goal has always been to have the site paid for by advertising. We wanted the site to be accessible by anyone, from a soldier serving in the desert to a single dad that is just getting by. The site is what we all make it, I am really tired of people expecting the mods and admins to not only provide the servers and software but they want the site to be just what they want. I asked this question the other day, what have you done for the org lately? People that keep saying the org isn't what it used to be, is that my fault? I don't think that I control the members, if the site isn't what you want then step up and make the changes.
Being a part of a group like the org means that you don't just sit around and complain all the time but you serve. If you don't like things the way they are then I challenge you to step it up and reach out to others, if you want new features then make suggestions.
I have never been a guy to just sit around and be a victim, if I want change I am usually the first person to step up and start taking action. Let me give you a good example, Eric, Dr E started the cookie thread because he wanted to reach out to others, he is serving the org with his idea and keeping the idea going.
For those that just sit back and armchair quarterback every move that is made I ask you each, are you taking more from the org and complaining about the problems or are you actually doing something about it. The more people we see on the site the more differing opinions we will have, having only typed messges and not being able to see faces or hear voices we often times read into post what we want to see.
I do take things personally on this site, when people make accusations that I deleted post or that I just want to hold the members down it sounds ridiculas. When I read that people think I read PM's or that I delete their post because I have nothing better to do then they just don't know me. We get complaints all the time, daily about one thread or the other, someone disagrees about a post or a picture or a comment. There is no way that we can email or PM everyone each time that we get a complaint or concern. There are by far more of you than there is of the mods and admins, throwing more people at the problem and having more mods isnt the answer either. What we really need is people to remember who we are, what we do, and look at the history of the site. The mods and admins do not randomly go through post and delete content, we don't target members and we just don't have the time to send messages and deal with all the problems at the same time.
We only ask that members think about what they post, if they want change they step up to the occasion and if you have a true concern that you would contact me before posting censorship all over the Internet.
I have in recent days removed a few accounts of some longstanding members from this site for going on the Internet and complaining about this site and then coming right back to enjoy the benifits of what we have to offer. You can't have it both ways, people that email or post up on other forums that they hate it here and that we are going downhill seem to be a cancer to the site and they need to be disconnected and cut away. It's interesting that people will broadcast that they are not going to come back to the Org but when their account is locked out they scream censorship and unfairness.
Just remember that we need people to do the right thing, I know I live each day striving to do the best I can, I can't please everyone but I think we do pretty good.
I simply need your help to not think the worst when you disagree with a decision. Usually when the truth comes to the surface most people understand and agree with our decision making process...
Enjoy the site.... and contribute back to the cause...
cap
