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[Blanca BusaLess]

Yeah, remembering that idividual bias can be hard to prove even though it is in many cases illegal.

Maybe I misunderstood Zerks' question. Maybe he was asking what you just stated. There are no laws preventing gays from obtaining their dreams, so of course gay people have every tool necessary to achieve success. From the context of this conversation I assumed Zerks was asking whether gays are handicapped mentally. I mean, after all, it was Zerks asking

Well….do you think it normal for one man to covet another’s butt? I don’t. I’ll accept them and their freedoms to do that but it will never be considered normal in my eyes.

[Red05]

Well….do you think it normal for one man to covet another’s butt? I don’t. I’ll accept them and their freedoms to do that but it will never be considered normal in my eyes.

Yes I considerate it normal and I respect everybody's right to an opinion.

[ottafish]

Yes I considerate it normal and I respect everybody's right to an opinion.

100% agree.

[ottafish]

Well….do you think it normal for one man to covet another’s butt? I don’t. I’ll accept them and their freedoms to do that but it will never be considered normal in my eyes.

Do you think it is normal to believe in a god or a deity? I don't. I'll accept people who do, but I will never consider it normal or logically sound

[Bumblebee]

Do you think it is normal to believe in a god or a deity? I don't. I'll accept people who do, but I will never consider it normal or logically sound

I'm not overly religious but I've seen things that can only be explained as a miracle...

Even myself, I shouldn't be alive right now...it must have been a miracle that saved me a few times...

[Blanca BusaLess]

Do you think it is normal to believe in a god or a deity? I don't. I'll accept people who do, but I will never consider it normal or logically sound

One is simply faith and the other is physical. Anyone who thinks one man packing another’s fudge is normal has just as many screws loose as they do. It’s not normal and stop defending it as it is. I will say it again, they are free to do it if they want. But two guys going at it will never be normal. It has never in the history of mankind been seen as that. Accepted perverted behavior is all it is and ever will be.

[ottafish]

One is simply faith and the other is physical. Anyone who thinks one man packing another’s fudge is normal has just as many screws loose as they do. It’s not normal and stop defending it as it is. I will say it again, they are free to do it if they want. But two guys going at it will never be normal. It has never in the history of mankind been seen as that. Accepted perverted behavior is all it is and ever will be.

I will not and never stop defending. What you consider 'not normal' is your opinion and you are more than welcome to stand by that.
But your intolerance, lack of understanding is obvious. And please, refrain from describing people as having "screws loose". That sort of attitude needs to be checked at the door as it is offensive to many.

We just have to agree that we both have very different views on humanity and acceptance of people.

[Blanca BusaLess]

I will not and never stop defending. What you consider 'not normal' is your opinion and you are more than welcome to stand by that.
But your intolerance, lack of understanding is obvious. And please, refrain from describing people as having "screws loose". That sort of attitude needs to be checked at the door as it is offensive to many.

We just have to agree that we both have very different views on humanity and acceptance of people.

Show me where I said anything intolerant? I didn’t. I have purposefully made sure in every post to say I support their right to do as they please. You seem to have missed that EVERY time. But it is abnormal perverted behavior. You are also free to accept it as I do which you do. But and I mean BUT anyone who tries to says two guys screwing each other is the same as a man and woman and is normal does have screws loose like they do. I DONT care if the truth offends anyone because that’s just what it is the truth.

[Red05]

Show me where I said anything intolerant? I didn’t. I have purposefully made sure in every post to say I support their right to do as they please. You seem to have missed that EVERY time. But it is abnormal perverted behavior. You are also free to accept it as I do which you do. But and I mean BUT anyone who tries to says two guys screwing each other is the same as a man and woman and is normal does have screws loose like they do. I DONT care if the truth offends anyone because that’s just what it is the truth.

The very definition of intolerance is:

1.unwillingness to accept views, beliefs, or behavior that differ from one's own:

Abnormal and perverted? Perception is different from reality. You're not making the distinction.

[Blanca BusaLess]

The very definition of intolerance is:

1.unwillingness to accept views, beliefs, or behavior that differ from one's own:

Abnormal and perverted? Perception is different from reality. You're not making the distinction.

Good grief. Where did I say I don’t accept their views, beliefs or behavior?
I DIDNT.
I simply said what is true and most definitely abnormal. One man screwing another is just that. The reality is for one man to hump another is perverted.
Free to do it. May feel real love for each other no different than I do for my wife.
But two men screwing is NOT normal and never will be. Your perception you are free to have. Still won’t make their behavior normal. You’re free to play along with their fantasy. You’re free to play fantasy with MISTER Mulvaney and call him a woman if you want but HE will always be a dude. THAT is reality and TRUTH.

[Red05]

Good grief. Where did I say I don’t accept their views, beliefs or behavior?
I DIDNT.
I simply said what is true and most definitely abnormal. One man screwing another is just that. The reality is for one man to hump another is perverted.
Free to do it. May feel real love for each other no different than I do for my wife.
But two men screwing is NOT normal and never will be. Your perception you are free to have. Still won’t make their behavior normal. You’re free t o play along with their fantasy. You’re free to play fantasy with MISTER Mulvaney and call him a woman if you want but HE will always be a dude. THAT is reality and TRUTH.

You keep mixing up perception and reality. We’re all entitled to our perceptions.

[Blanca BusaLess]

You keep mixing up perception and reality. We’re all entitled to our perceptions.

I see. So you think I’m perceiving mister Mulvaney incorrectly and the reality is HE is a woman because he acts and dresses like one. Right?
The reality is not that he’s a dude because he says he isn’t and you believe that. Right?
Tell me something what chromosomes does he have?
Let me help you with your own perceptions and try to separate them from reality.

Play dress up tuck fantasy alllllll you want. Play along with them if you want. It will never change the reality of the above. Nor can mister Mulvaney ever change it either.

[Zerks]

Yes I considerate it normal and I respect everybody's right to an opinion.

If you consider it normal... then do it. After all... it will simply be normal behavior.

[Red05]

I see. So you think I’m perceiving mister Mulvaney incorrectly and the reality is HE is a woman because he acts and dresses like one. Right?
The reality is not that he’s a dude because he says he isn’t and you believe that. Right?
Tell me something what chromosomes does he
Play dress up tuck fantasy alllllll you want. Play along with them if you want. It will never change the reality of the above. Nor can mister Mulvaney ever change it either.

You changed from homosexual sex to sexual identity vs biological gender. Fine. Your take on homosexual sex is your perception, period.

[Zerks]

The very definition of intolerance is:

1.unwillingness to accept views, beliefs, or behavior that differ from one's own:

Abnormal and perverted? Perception is different from reality. You're not making the distinction.

You know what else isn't normal that you call intolerant? The rate of STDs in the gay men community as compared to heterosexuals. My perception of that means my opinion of gay men can be measured in a medical care data base. This is just one website... plenty more if you look around. Are you more or less tolerant of people that engage in risky sexual behavior regardless of whether or not it is gay sex or straight sex?

Sexually Transmitted Diseases Among Gay and Bisexual Men | CDC

Sexually Transmitted Diseases (STDs) have been increasing among gay and bisexual men.

www.cdc.gov

[Red05]

I’m tolerant of people having sex with the mate of their choice. Anybody that is sexually active with different partners should be careful.

[Blanca BusaLess]

You changed from homosexual sex to sexual identity vs biological gender. Fine. Your take on homosexual sex is your perception, period.

I’m glad that the overwhelming majority of people in the world think like me and still have same perceptions on homo sex and that it is perverted. Period.

[Zerks]

I’m tolerant of people having sex with the mate of their choice. Anybody that is sexually active with different partners should be careful.

Just because something fits doesn't mean its something healthy to do.

As far as being careful goes... accidents have been known to happen and death can be the end result.

How many gay men have lost a mate due to having contacted HIV and or STDs?

[Red05]

Just because something fits doesn't mean its something healthy to do.

As far as being careful goes... accidents have been known to happen and death can be the end result.

How many gay men have lost a mate due to having contacted HIV and or STDs?

I smoke cigars. Not healthy but I like it. We all ride motorcycles. Death a possibility? You bet. Phucking live man. Despite. Heteros lose mates and get hurt in love too. Is it best to be alone? We all have our own answer to that.

[Zerks]

I smoke cigars. Not healthy but I like it. We all ride motorcycles. Death a possibility? You bet. Phucking live man. Despite. Heteros lose mates and get hurt in love too. Is it best to be alone? We all have our own answer to that.

Everyone's physical life to this point in recorded history has an end scenario... its called death of the physical self.

I risk death every day because I want to live while I am alive.

We all know what the risk are that is part of the activities we enjoy.

What happens on the microscopic level can be an unknown quantity with a catastrophic and painful result.

Do you want to gamble with things you can't see? There is where the difference lies... is that person carrying a lethal disease?

Only one way to find out for certain... indulge and gamble if you like. If that isn't true, then what is?

Somethings should be consider taboo...

We simply disagree on what those things are.