I caught my dealer service in FRAUD!!

Shame on all of you.  Just because I'm making sure the legality is inline before I start naming the dealer makes me the "bad guy".  Frankly I expect nothing more than my prepaid of $1000 back + milage, but I want them to pay, not necessarily to me, but in fines and lost business where it will hurt them.  

You guys can't wait for a couple of days before I release the name and video before jumping all over my ass?  

Figment of my imagination?  Tell that to the oil filter with my etched initials on it with the date that they didn't change.  I was sure as hell going to release the video on this site to make sure no one else in So. Cal would fall victim to them, but seeing how you can't even give me some advice and opinion without being judgement about me, I'm not going to do it generally and will only email the link to the video for those that email me and I didn't see trying to rip me a new one.

Most of you are worst than a bunch of rich prom queens!

So for those of you that DIDN'T jump on my ass and try to judge me... PM me at the beginning of next week via this site.  I should've compressed the video by then to upload to a web host, and I'll let you know which dealer it is.

And for those of you that are so high and mighty... what goes around on your part, will come around and Karma's a bit*h.  Don't bother PM for the link to the video, I'll check against the board to see if you're sorry-ass screen name is amoungst those that judged me for being cautious.

And JohnnyCheese:  You've done nothing but jump all over me from your very first reply.... It's obvious what kind of cheese you are.  You calling me stupid for not checking the BBB first??  Are stupid or retarded, or just not literate?  Didn't you read that I wrote they are the biggest bike dealer in the county the are in??  What kind of as* are you?  I'll tell you what kind of as* you are, you're the kind that think you're the smart and better than anyone else and that anyone that falls victim to a circumstance beyond their LOGICAL control, it is their fault.  We'll fate usually has something in store for As*ses like you, just don't expect any sympathy when it happens to you.
Oh, and you'd better do a spelling and grammar check on the quoted post here before you go callin' people illiterate.
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#1- Mileage, not "milage" (spelling)

#2- "Tell that to the oil filter with my etched initials on it with the date that they didn't change." So, ummm, they didn't change the date on the filter? (poor sentence)

#3- "...seeing how you can't even give me some advice and opinion without being judgement about me..." Ummm, "without being judgement about me"? (another poor sentence)

#4- "Most of you are worst than a bunch of rich prom queens!" In that context, it's worse, not "worst".

#5- Amongst, not "amoungst" (another butchered spelling)

#6- "I'll tell you what kind of as* you are, you're the kind that think you're the smart and better than anyone else and that anyone that falls victim to a circumstance beyond their LOGICAL control..." Whew. "The kind that think you're the smart and better than anyone else, huh? Shame on you, cheese, whatever that sentence means...
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Ummm, dude... if you're gonna blast others for literacy shortcomings, at least get your shid right in the post you slam them in.
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Before you search all my posts to find errors to throw back, just remember that I'm not the one callin' others illiterate.
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You come to this site as a newbie and want to blast anyone who doesn't jump on your lawsuit happy bandwagon? Not a very good entrance, bro. If havin' your opinion opposed is a problem for you, I'd suggest not postin' it on a public forum in the future. If you don't want criticism, don't lay yer bidness out for all to see.

Anyone on this site would have rallied behind you and felt your pain on bein' ripped a new'un, but the extra drama (class action suit on a small claims civil matter? Puhleeeaaase!) and all the silly secrecy is a bit over the top. That's what we're callin' you out on. With the evidence you claim to have, how could you become the bad guy by makin' it public. If you didn't want to tell anything you should have kept this to yourself until you WERE ready. Now, all the riders local to you are beggin' for the name and you're leavin' 'em hangin'. That ain't cool. What if some of them are lookin' to get an oil change soon and need to know to avoid this dealer. Or, are you hopin' others WILL get burned so that you can add another million to your silly class action suit damage compensation request?
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Either way, it's dirty as hell to post about this and not give the info to the other local riders.
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As far as I'm concerned you can write the name of the dealer on a piece of paper and staple it to your arse. I don't live there and there's zero chance that I'll get burned by the same dealer. You're not screwin' me, you're screwin' your local ridin' mates. If I were local to you and you wouldn't share the info, as far as I'm concerned you'd be considered a loner. I'd hook all my local ridin' bros up with the info ASAP to avoid lettin' 'em get burned. I believe most everyone here would cover their local ridin' community in the same way. Apparently you operate with different morals than the rest of us. You're so caught up in this big bankroll lawsuit of yours that you're willin' to screw your fellow cali ridin' bros. That's just not cool...
Are you that stupid??? He cant just go showing you all of the evidence he has if he plans on filing a lawsuit. He cant name the dealership that did this... If he shows everyone the video and names who the dealership is, the dealership may file a counter suit against him. I bet you anything the lawyer will tell him to keep his mouth shut until its done...



bobo of the year award needs to go to bulletrain and johnnycheese.

Sticking up for a dealership that steals from its customers. You two are pathetic.

Ewww, i should do a spell check also so i dont get flamed....

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Shame on all of you.  Just because I'm making sure the legality is inline before I start naming the dealer makes me the "bad guy".  Frankly I expect nothing more than my prepaid of $1000 back + milage, but I want them to pay, not necessarily to me, but in fines and lost business where it will hurt them.  

You guys can't wait for a couple of days before I release the name and video before jumping all over my ass?  

Figment of my imagination?  Tell that to the oil filter with my etched initials on it with the date that they didn't change.  I was sure as hell going to release the video on this site to make sure no one else in So. Cal would fall victim to them, but seeing how you can't even give me some advice and opinion without being judgement about me, I'm not going to do it generally and will only email the link to the video for those that email me and I didn't see trying to rip me a new one.

Most of you are worst than a bunch of rich prom queens!

So for those of you that DIDN'T jump on my ass and try to judge me... PM me at the beginning of next week via this site.  I should've compressed the video by then to upload to a web host, and I'll let you know which dealer it is.

And for those of you that are so high and mighty... what goes around on your part, will come around and Karma's a bit*h.  Don't bother PM for the link to the video, I'll check against the board to see if you're sorry-ass screen name is amoungst those that judged me for being cautious.

And JohnnyCheese:  You've done nothing but jump all over me from your very first reply.... It's obvious what kind of cheese you are.  You calling me stupid for not checking the BBB first??  Are stupid or retarded, or just not literate?  Didn't you read that I wrote they are the biggest bike dealer in the county the are in??  What kind of as* are you?  I'll tell you what kind of as* you are, you're the kind that think you're the smart and better than anyone else and that anyone that falls victim to a circumstance beyond their LOGICAL control, it is their fault.  We'll fate usually has something in store for As*ses like you, just don't expect any sympathy when it happens to you.
Oh, and you'd better do a spelling and grammar check on the quoted post here before you go callin' people illiterate.
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#1- Mileage, not "milage" (spelling)

#2- "Tell that to the oil filter with my etched initials on it with the date that they didn't change." So, ummm, they didn't change the date on the filter? (poor sentence)

#3- "...seeing how you can't even give me some advice and opinion without being judgement about me..." Ummm, "without being judgement about me"? (another poor sentence)

#4- "Most of you are worst than a bunch of rich prom queens!" In that context, it's worse, not "worst".

#5- Amongst, not "amoungst" (another butchered spelling)

#6- "I'll tell you what kind of as* you are, you're the kind that think you're the smart and better than anyone else and that anyone that falls victim to a circumstance beyond their LOGICAL control..." Whew. "The kind that think you're the smart and better than anyone else, huh? Shame on you, cheese, whatever that sentence means...
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Ummm, dude... if you're gonna blast others for literacy shortcomings, at least get your shid right in the post you slam them in.
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Before you search all my posts to find errors to throw back, just remember that I'm not the one callin' others illiterate.
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You come to this site as a newbie and want to blast anyone who doesn't jump on your lawsuit happy bandwagon? Not a very good entrance, bro. If havin' your opinion opposed is a problem for you, I'd suggest not postin' it on a public forum in the future. If you don't want criticism, don't lay yer bidness out for all to see.

Anyone on this site would have rallied behind you and felt your pain on bein' ripped a new'un, but the extra drama (class action suit on a small claims civil matter? Puhleeeaaase!) and all the silly secrecy is a bit over the top. That's what we're callin' you out on. With the evidence you claim to have, how could you become the bad guy by makin' it public. If you didn't want to tell anything you should have kept this to yourself until you WERE ready. Now, all the riders local to you are beggin' for the name and you're leavin' 'em hangin'. That ain't cool. What if some of them are lookin' to get an oil change soon and need to know to avoid this dealer. Or, are you hopin' others WILL get burned so that you can add another million to your silly class action suit damage compensation request?
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Either way, it's dirty as hell to post about this and not give the info to the other local riders.
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As far as I'm concerned you can write the name of the dealer on a piece of paper and staple it to your arse. I don't live there and there's zero chance that I'll get burned by the same dealer. You're not screwin' me, you're screwin' your local ridin' mates. If I were local to you and you wouldn't share the info, as far as I'm concerned you'd be considered a loner. I'd hook all my local ridin' bros up with the info ASAP to avoid lettin' 'em get burned. I believe most everyone here would cover their local ridin' community in the same way. Apparently you operate with different morals than the rest of us. You're so caught up in this big bankroll lawsuit of yours that you're willin' to screw your fellow cali ridin' bros. That's just not cool...
Are you that stupid???  He cant just go showing you all of the evidence he has if he plans on filing a lawsuit.  He cant name the dealership that did this... If he shows everyone the video and names who the dealership is, the dealership may file a counter suit against him.  I bet you anything the lawyer will tell him to keep his mouth shut until its done...



bobo of the year award needs to go to bulletrain and johnnycheese.  

Sticking up for a dealership that steals from its customers.  You two are pathetic.  

Ewww, i should do a spell check also so i dont get flamed....
Un fricken believable..... If this guy has video proof, he in no way endangers his case by naming the offending dealer. I've been in a related industry for years, and let me tell you....this "lawsuit" is going nowhere. This is a case of a flat rate tech. cutting corners. He should be dealt with. The original poster should get his money back, along with his prepaid service money (which is a sucker fee, BTW), and be entitled to compensation equal to his actual lost time and expenses involved in getting his bike to and from the dealer. A good dealer would offer him an extended service contract at no charge to sooth the pain.

All he's acomplishing with all this unneeded drama is excessive smoke blowing and posturing. Had he gone straight to the GM of the dealership, and spoken to him man to man or man to woman, whichever the case, this could have been resolved quickly and to his satisfaction. If not resolved, then he should have started making noise. All he is doing now is strengthening the dealer's resolve to fight him, and I can bet the dealer has more money to spend on lawyers than this goof does.

IMHO, dude, go to the dealer and fix this face to face, and get it over with. Your inability to name the dealer raises doubts in everyone's mind about your real intentions.

Lyricz (sp?): taking shots at Bullet is wrong...he's the most level headed guy here, IMHO, and really didn't deserve that. Yeah, JC is blunt, but has more technical knowledge than anyone I can think of, and you may need his help someday. Personal attacks are never called for, you just killed your credibility on this board.

To the regulars: I'm back, sorry 'bout that that little "I'm takin' off to ride because the board pissed me off" routine, I was having a really shiddy week. Hope you don't hold it against me, as this is still the best bike board I've found.

TBone

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OK here we go, this thread is starting to turn directions. Let me just remind everyone what makes this board a little different then others.

1. Seldom do we drop our guard and begin to personally attack other members, in my opinion we have lost that here.
2. Mutual respect is always provided, we lost that to.
3. You guys are all hundreds of miles away from each other, it doesn't matter.
4. If your one of the folks that think that they are gonna get screwed do a little extra research before you take your bike in for repairs.

You are all mature adults, Im not gonna close this thread or delete it. I think that we just need to recover the perspective and move on. Agree to disagree and have a great day...

CAp
 
Shame on all of you.  Just because I'm making sure the legality is inline before I start naming the dealer makes me the "bad guy".  Frankly I expect nothing more than my prepaid of $1000 back + milage, but I want them to pay, not necessarily to me, but in fines and lost business where it will hurt them.  

You guys can't wait for a couple of days before I release the name and video before jumping all over my ass?  

Figment of my imagination?  Tell that to the oil filter with my etched initials on it with the date that they didn't change.  I was sure as hell going to release the video on this site to make sure no one else in So. Cal would fall victim to them, but seeing how you can't even give me some advice and opinion without being judgement about me, I'm not going to do it generally and will only email the link to the video for those that email me and I didn't see trying to rip me a new one.

Most of you are worst than a bunch of rich prom queens!

So for those of you that DIDN'T jump on my ass and try to judge me... PM me at the beginning of next week via this site.  I should've compressed the video by then to upload to a web host, and I'll let you know which dealer it is.

And for those of you that are so high and mighty... what goes around on your part, will come around and Karma's a bit*h.  Don't bother PM for the link to the video, I'll check against the board to see if you're sorry-ass screen name is amoungst those that judged me for being cautious.

And JohnnyCheese:  You've done nothing but jump all over me from your very first reply.... It's obvious what kind of cheese you are.  You calling me stupid for not checking the BBB first??  Are stupid or retarded, or just not literate?  Didn't you read that I wrote they are the biggest bike dealer in the county the are in??  What kind of as* are you?  I'll tell you what kind of as* you are, you're the kind that think you're the smart and better than anyone else and that anyone that falls victim to a circumstance beyond their LOGICAL control, it is their fault.  We'll fate usually has something in store for As*ses like you, just don't expect any sympathy when it happens to you.
Oh, and you'd better do a spelling and grammar check on the quoted post here before you go callin' people illiterate.
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#1- Mileage, not "milage" (spelling)

#2- "Tell that to the oil filter with my etched initials on it with the date that they didn't change." So, ummm, they didn't change the date on the filter? (poor sentence)

#3- "...seeing how you can't even give me some advice and opinion without being judgement about me..." Ummm, "without being judgement about me"? (another poor sentence)

#4- "Most of you are worst than a bunch of rich prom queens!" In that context, it's worse, not "worst".

#5- Amongst, not "amoungst" (another butchered spelling)

#6- "I'll tell you what kind of as* you are, you're the kind that think you're the smart and better than anyone else and that anyone that falls victim to a circumstance beyond their LOGICAL control..." Whew. "The kind that think you're the smart and better than anyone else, huh? Shame on you, cheese, whatever that sentence means...
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Ummm, dude... if you're gonna blast others for literacy shortcomings, at least get your shid right in the post you slam them in.
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Before you search all my posts to find errors to throw back, just remember that I'm not the one callin' others illiterate.
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You come to this site as a newbie and want to blast anyone who doesn't jump on your lawsuit happy bandwagon? Not a very good entrance, bro. If havin' your opinion opposed is a problem for you, I'd suggest not postin' it on a public forum in the future. If you don't want criticism, don't lay yer bidness out for all to see.

Anyone on this site would have rallied behind you and felt your pain on bein' ripped a new'un, but the extra drama (class action suit on a small claims civil matter? Puhleeeaaase!) and all the silly secrecy is a bit over the top. That's what we're callin' you out on. With the evidence you claim to have, how could you become the bad guy by makin' it public. If you didn't want to tell anything you should have kept this to yourself until you WERE ready. Now, all the riders local to you are beggin' for the name and you're leavin' 'em hangin'. That ain't cool. What if some of them are lookin' to get an oil change soon and need to know to avoid this dealer. Or, are you hopin' others WILL get burned so that you can add another million to your silly class action suit damage compensation request?
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Either way, it's dirty as hell to post about this and not give the info to the other local riders.
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As far as I'm concerned you can write the name of the dealer on a piece of paper and staple it to your arse. I don't live there and there's zero chance that I'll get burned by the same dealer. You're not screwin' me, you're screwin' your local ridin' mates. If I were local to you and you wouldn't share the info, as far as I'm concerned you'd be considered a loner. I'd hook all my local ridin' bros up with the info ASAP to avoid lettin' 'em get burned. I believe most everyone here would cover their local ridin' community in the same way. Apparently you operate with different morals than the rest of us. You're so caught up in this big bankroll lawsuit of yours that you're willin' to screw your fellow cali ridin' bros. That's just not cool...
Are you that stupid???  He cant just go showing you all of the evidence he has if he plans on filing a lawsuit.  He cant name the dealership that did this... If he shows everyone the video and names who the dealership is, the dealership may file a counter suit against him.  I bet you anything the lawyer will tell him to keep his mouth shut until its done...



bobo of the year award needs to go to bulletrain and johnnycheese.  

Sticking up for a dealership that steals from its customers.  You two are pathetic.  

Ewww, i should do a spell check also so i dont get flamed....
Un fricken believable..... If this guy has video proof, he in no way endangers his case by naming the offending dealer. I've been in a related industry for years, and let me tell you....this "lawsuit" is going nowhere. This is a case of a flat rate tech. cutting corners. He should be dealt with. The original poster should get his money back, along with his prepaid service money (which is a sucker fee, BTW), and be entitled to compensation equal to his actual lost time and expenses involved in getting his bike to and from the dealer. A good dealer would offer him an extended service contract at no charge to sooth the pain.

All he's acomplishing with all this unneeded drama is excessive smoke blowing and posturing. Had he gone straight to the GM of the dealership, and spoken to him man to man or man to woman, whichever the case, this could have been resolved quickly and to his satisfaction. If not resolved, then he should have started making noise. All he is doing now is strengthening the dealer's resolve to fight him, and I can bet the dealer has more money to spend on lawyers than this goof does.

IMHO, dude, go to the dealer and fix this face to face, and get it over with. Your inability to name the dealer raises doubts in everyone's mind about your real intentions.

Lyricz (sp?): taking shots at Bullet is wrong...he's the most level headed guy here, IMHO, and really didn't deserve that. Yeah, JC is blunt, but has more technical knowledge than anyone I can think of, and you may need his help someday. Personal attacks are never called for, you just killed your credibility on this board.

To the regulars: I'm back, sorry 'bout that that little "I'm takin' off to ride because the board pissed me off" routine, I was having a really shiddy week. Hope you don't hold it against me, as this is still the best bike board I've found.

TBone
Yes, that was my thought also on Bullettrain but he proved me wrong on that.


Look, this isnt just a case of ONE tech not changing a filter and screwing one customer. This is probably a HUGE thing this dealership does and dont you guys think that it needs to be dealt with???

I was always under the impression that you guys all stick together to help out a fellow busa rider. Thats what he is doing. He wants to make sure that this doesnt happen to anyone else. Thats all. If he is truely out for justice he will accept them refunding his policy and maybe a tad bit for his time, and then let the BBB or whoever the hell handles this sort of thing handle it. All he needs is ONE other person to have the same situation happen to them and this would be a very big lawsuit.

I just feel bad for the other 100's of people who paid for a filter and didnt get it..

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What I've seen in the past is that someone gets pissed at a dealer, gets on a board to tell their story, whipping the crowd into a frenzy. They then show the posts to the dealer who wronged them threatening to name names if they don't get their way.

After they settle, you won't hear anything else about it, nor will they ever say who it was.

Everyone else is free to be screwed, but as long as they got theirs, why should he care.
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I say we have a Bitch & Moan Clause here, no bitching and moaning unless you name the offending party upfront.
Either that's the case, or he doesn't want to spoil his multi-million dollar class action civil suit by spreadin' the information to anyone other than his attorney.
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Wow, i have lost a whole lot of respect for bullettrain, and i have never had any for that Ahole johnny cheese.. He has always been a bobo...

Look, the guy got ripped by the dealer, that dealer probably does 20 oil changes a day, do the math... they dont change anybodies oil filter during any of that time, they are good time ALOTTT of people out of their money..

Its bullshit.. The guy is just trying to make sure that this dealership gets what they deserve... He would be happy with just gettin his money back plus a little for his troubles, but he wants to make sure that the dealership gets fucked big time.. That is just plain all out THEFT by the dealership and your bitchin at him because he wants to make a stand to this dealer and make sure this poop doesnt happen to anyone else..

ANd bullettrain, for you to say that its not that big of a deal, man you would good time FREAK OUT if this happened to you... You would be ALLL over this world up and down.. Look how pissy you got with Silvio from allied barter... You were upset because he was just delaying and not telling you when the product would arrive. Imagine if he was actually stealing from you what would of happened. Now imagine how you would be if you knew you got ripped off, plus HUNDREDS more... You would be all over this...

Leave the guy alone, he is just trying to get his money back, plus gettin this dealership to pay for their crime..
Dude, you need to get off your boys jock. Naming a dealer is not going to affect a lawsuit that's not going to happen anyway.

After thinking about this, I decided to look at the maintenance schedule for the Busa. It seems to show that the oil filter is only changed every other oil change.
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This actually negates any chance of a lawsuit or getting his money back from pre-paid maintenance which is a crime in itself for paying for it. Of course if his video camera also does an oil anaylsis while in the record mode, he may be back in the game.

Comparing this to BT's issue has no basis in no shape or form. What was the purpose of even mentioning this supposed fraud if he wasn't prepared to name the dealership other then some hidden agenda?

Eynlai shouldn't even post on a community board if he isn't going to belong and help the community.
 
What I've seen in the past is that someone gets pissed at a dealer, gets on a board to tell their story, whipping the crowd into a frenzy.  They then show the posts to the dealer who wronged them threatening to name names if they don't get their way.

After they settle, you won't hear anything else about it, nor will they ever say who it was.

Everyone else is free to be screwed, but as long as they got theirs, why should he care.
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I say we have a Bitch & Moan Clause here, no bitching and moaning unless you name the offending party upfront.
Either that's the case, or he doesn't want to spoil his multi-million dollar class action civil suit by spreadin' the information to anyone other than his attorney.
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Wow, i have lost a whole lot of respect for bullettrain, and i have never had any for that Ahole johnny cheese.. He has always been a bobo...

Look, the guy got ripped by the dealer, that dealer probably does 20 oil changes a day, do the math... they dont change anybodies oil filter during any of that time, they are good time ALOTTT of people out of their money..

Its bullshit.. The guy is just trying to make sure that this dealership gets what they deserve... He would be happy with just gettin his money back plus a little for his troubles, but he wants to make sure that the dealership gets fucked big time.. That is just plain all out THEFT by the dealership and your bitchin at him because he wants to make a stand to this dealer and make sure this poop doesnt happen to anyone else..

ANd bullettrain, for you to say that its not that big of a deal, man you would good time FREAK OUT if this happened to you... You would be ALLL over this world up and down.. Look how pissy you got with Silvio from allied barter... You were upset because he was just delaying and not telling you when the product would arrive.  Imagine if he was actually stealing from you what would of happened.  Now imagine how you would be if you knew you got ripped off, plus HUNDREDS more... You would be all over this...

Leave the guy alone, he is just trying to get his money back, plus gettin this dealership to pay for their crime..
Dude, you need to get off your boys jock.  Naming a dealer is not going to affect a lawsuit that's not going to happen anyway.

After thinking about this, I decided to look at the maintenance schedule for the Busa.  It seems to show that the oil filter is only changed every other oil change.
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This actually negates any chance of a lawsuit or getting his money back from pre-paid maintenance which is a crime in itself for paying for it.  Of course if his video camera also does an oil anaylsis while in the record mode, he may be back in the game.

Comparing this to BT's issue has no basis in no shape or form.  What was the purpose of even mentioning this supposed fraud if he wasn't prepared to name the dealership other then some hidden agenda?

Eynlai shouldn't even post on a community board if he isn't going to belong and help the community.
Come on. Im not an anyones jock. I just cant believe people gettin on him thats all...

Yes, if he does post up the dealerships name and it comes to be that there is NO lawsuit, or there is a lawsuit and he loses, they have a defamation lawsuit if they wanted to..


If you guys want to know the dealerships name, PM the guy... Or you wanna see the vid, PM the guy...
 
Lyrikz..you keep saying he "just wants to make sure it doesn't happen to anyone else".....SO NAME THE GOD DAMN DEALER!!!!!
PUT UP OR SHUT UP.......PLAIN AND SIMPLE....
 
Lyrikz..you keep saying he "just wants to make sure it doesn't happen to anyone else".....SO NAME THE GOD DAMN DEALER!!!!!
PUT UP OR SHUT UP.......PLAIN AND SIMPLE....
P M the good time GUY IF YOU WANT TO KNOW.

I bet you whatever you want that his lawyer told him to NOT say poop to anyone... Especially on an open forum.. He came here looking for support and he didnt get that..



You want to know the name, PM him...
 
Out of respect for the Captain and the members of this forum I'm going to keep out of the rest of this discussion. It's becoming obvious that this topic is not going to be discussed in a manner that is fitting to this forum.

Lyrikz,

If you want to continue to discuss my stance on this by PM that's fine. However, I do request that you do so without the hostile attitude and name calling in the next one. I can be an adult about this if you can. If not, the conversation is over. Thanks in advance.

BT out...
 
Very interesting. I wonder if you really could file a class action suit. Definately contact the TV people. They love that kind of stuff.

And keep us posted.
 
Out of respect for the Captain and the members of this forum I'm going to keep out of the rest of this discussion. It's becoming obvious that this topic is not going to be discussed in a manner that is fitting to this forum.

Lyrikz,

If you want to continue to discuss my stance on this by PM that's fine. However, I do request that you do so without the hostile attitude and name calling in the next one. I can be an adult about this if you can. If not, the conversation is over. Thanks in advance.

BT out...
I guess I should have read the whole thing before I posted. Actually, I wish I never opened this thread. It screwed up my day. It is depressing when I see this great board take such a negative turn, and for what? Was was so important that we needed to get beligerant (don't feel like looking it up) and disrespectful with each other?

I didn't understand why the guy didn't give the name of the dealer in his first thread, and I do not personally believe that it would hurt his case. But he obviously does. Because I dissagree with him does not give me the right to disrespect the man. It is his situation and his right to handle it as he sees fit.

Normally, on this board, we just make our point and move on. But here a few of you went at this guy pretty hard, and it was uncalled for. Of course he responded in kind, and so it goes.

I just hope that we don't have a repeat of this kind of behavior in future threads. We all know of another board where they do this kind of thing all day and night. Please leave it over there.

Concerned Citizen
 
OK here we go, this thread is starting to turn directions. Let me just remind everyone what makes this board a little different then others.

1. Seldom do we drop our guard and begin to personally attack other members, in my opinion we have lost that here.
2. Mutual respect is always provided, we lost that to.
3. You guys are all hundreds of miles away from each other, it doesn't matter.
4. If your one of the folks that think that they are gonna get screwed do a little extra research before you take your bike in for repairs.

You are all mature adults, Im not gonna close this thread or delete it. I think that we just need to recover the perspective and move on. Agree to disagree and have a great day...

CAp
dang cap, 8841.46 average post/day. that's fu*king amazing!!! where do you find the time to ride?
 
Wow, i have lost a whole lot of respect for bullettrain, and i have never had any for that Ahole johnny cheese.. He has always been a bobo...

Look, the guy got ripped by the dealer, that dealer probably does 20 oil changes a day, do the math... they dont change anybodies oil filter during any of that time, they are good time ALOTTT of people out of their money..

Its bullshit.. The guy is just trying to make sure that this dealership gets what they deserve... He would be happy with just gettin his money back plus a little for his troubles, but he wants to make sure that the dealership gets fucked big time.. That is just plain all out THEFT by the dealership and your bitchin at him because he wants to make a stand to this dealer and make sure this poop doesnt happen to anyone else..

ANd bullettrain, for you to say that its not that big of a deal, man you would good time FREAK OUT if this happened to you... You would be ALLL over this world up and down.. Look how pissy you got with Silvio from allied barter... You were upset because he was just delaying and not telling you when the product would arrive.  Imagine if he was actually stealing from you what would of happened.  Now imagine how you would be if you knew you got ripped off, plus HUNDREDS more... You would be all over this...

Leave the guy alone, he is just trying to get his money back, plus gettin this dealership to pay for their crime..
1.> If he was trying to help out his fellow riders he'd be
   telling them what dealership to avoid.

2.> Big difference between BT "whining" or being "pissy"
   about his problems with Allied Barter & Silvo. BT at
   least named names and problem. This let anyone else
   who had dealings with Allied/Silvo speak up. Either
   to defend Silvo or to provide additional support for
   BT. Plus Allied Barter/Silvo had an opportunity to
   refute BT's claim if they chose to.


You need to check your facts BEFORE you try to slam someone.

And in case you are wondering the only thing BT promised me was...

He won't give me a speeding ticket
If I stay out of Georgia!  
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What he said ... check your facts before you slam someone. BT handled his complaints professionally and above board ... a good example for us to follow!!
 
I would contact the local TV station. Its not so much about the money but the principal of it all.. Suppose they were bleeding your brakes or replacing your brake pads
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Its dealers like this that customers should be warned about....
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What he said ... check your facts before you slam someone. BT handled his complaints professionally and above board ... a good example for us to follow!!
The guy did the SAME thing that BT did. I swear to god i dont know HOW MANY TIMES I HAVE TO SAY THIS. If this guy is planning on a law suit, he CAN NOT GIVE OUT INFORMATION ON HIS CASE in an open forum.. PERIOD.

Thats the ONLY thing he didnt do and that pissed people off.. IF you wanted to know.

P M THE GUY!!!!. HE would tell you.

And me and BT are fine again.. I apologized for my shitty PM i sent him.
 
Okay. I don't check the board for a couple of days, it's because I've been busy. Thanks for the support Lyrekis. It's finally settled. The owner of the dealership called me. And not surprisingly, he was cordial, and I explained all of the events leading up to this. And we settled on a gesture of good faith on his part that is NONE MONETARY.

My buddy already got me the DVD, I tried to rip it into AVI file so I can post it/ email it easily, but it came up over 1G. I'll figure it out and get it out to those that are interested in seeing it. An those of you that are in So Cal area that wants to know the dealership name, PM me a message. And even those are outside of the area.

This has not been a good experience for me at all. At the dealership and on this board with some of you. I tried not to take it personally what they did to me at the dealership, but it's even harder not to take it personally on this board. Especially when I came here for support and advise from my fellow 'busa bro and sisters, only to be attacked and questioned about my intentions and characters before all of the events are bought to light. You know, 97% of the time I pass another rider, I give our rider wave. Do some of you?? I wonder...

FYI, I did see a lawyer and he said it does hurt a chance of a good out of court settlement if their name is broadcasted and he's involved. That's because it would become formal at that point. But nonetheless, evil begot evil, just as this board has demonstrated and I decided not to use him and just go informal instead so I can divulge the dealership name and show the video. Nothing in writing or said with the owner said I can't. It's a matter of principle. He's gesture of good faith to me notwithstanding, I know and he knows that I may not be the first customers that this has happened to.

Just in case you're curious, part of his good faith gesture... each time my bike goes in for service, his master mechanic/shop manager Pete will sign off on each visit invoice before releasing my bike back to me.
 
I'm glad you got it resolved to your satisfaction.. Just curious, did the dealership admit guilt? I think implicitly they did, but did they actually say that they wronged you?
 
glad to hear u got everything worked out to ur satisfaction. good luck in the future.
blu

p.s. enjoy the bike..
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