Government mandated birth control

[Dino]

Fair enough then.... next time you have an emergency and need care you be so picky about which hospital you go to.... These hospitals server a community service too... But indeed if you think that is the right option, pushing the needs of the entire community out to another hospital 30 minutes away then so be it... If I were the Catholic leadership I would cut ties with all govt subsidy as this is what really got them into hot water.. when this happens they can do whatever they want.....

Cap that is the point. If you need emergency care you should not have to be concerned that the you are given is based on a particular faith.

[dadofthree]

If you want to have sex, pay out of YOUR pocket for protection. I have had enough of this **** that the taxpayer has to pay for everything that the public wants. Can`t afford condoms or pills, DON`T have sex. Got to do it. There are other ways to prevent getting pregnant. Both parties have a responsibility in this matter.

Tell you what, how about the Gov`t requiring ALL on Welfare get on birth control? Why not?

I'll go you one better, let's rewind to Franklin Roosevelt, and stop the government from stealing from those that work and giving to those that will not.

PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY , I know right

[Dino]

And to make one other point before I retire from posting on this thread, Dino may be the most opinionated soul on the forum when it comes to politics. Everything has to be an argument and Dino will beat a dead horse to a pulp before giving one thread of credibility to anyone who may disagree with his opinion! lease:

Nothing is ever settled in political threads. For some, winning at all costs becomes EVERYTHING!

What is up with the personal attacks?

[Lycan]

I'll go you one better, let's rewind to Franklin Roosevelt, and stop the government from stealing from those that work and giving to those that will not.

PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY , I know right

Wow makes my rhyme somehow more relevant

[captain]

I'll go you one better, let's rewind to Franklin Roosevelt, and stop the government from stealing from those that work and giving to those that will not.

PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY , I know right

you make it sound like people owe you something.... they don't Dino... which is why people look at your post and just laugh... You come across as the guy that just wants to give everyone elses money and rights away.... If you want better care then I would suggest that you be thankful for a Catholic establisment and what they offer as opposed to trying to force the good people to do something that goes against their faith... It's easy to give other people's money away and it's easy to go with anything when you stand for nothing....

[KFORCE1]

There is a simple solution to all this. Get the guy out if office, reverse this ridiculous obamacare and every other freedom denying liberal agenda out there. Freedom is under assault! There are those who have given up their self-reliance, invidualism, choices and responsibilities to the government and they are demanding that the rest of us do the same. The light is rapidly dimming away.

[Dino]

you make it sound like people owe you something.... they don't Dino... which is why people look at your post and just laugh... You come across as the guy that just wants to give everyone elses money and rights away.... If you want better care then I would suggest that you be thankful for a Catholic establisment and what they offer as opposed to trying to force the good people to do something that goes against their faith... It's easy to give other people's money away and it's easy to go with anything when you stand for nothing....

What gives you that idea? My arguement is based upon it being cheaper to cover BC than it is a pregnancy. Not about giving anybody something for nothing.

On they church issue again if a church is operating as a business they can't discriminate, how tough is that?

[Dino]

Actually Cap I do think people owe me something. I think they owe me the same respect I show them. I know I owe that to others. If I somehow disrespected you in this thread I am sorry I certainly did not mean to.

[RussellJ]

Just because they force the insurance companies to give it, doesn't mean the *promiscuous people* will actually get it and stop procreating

Lets start talking about gay marriage now

[skydivr]

Just because they force the insurance companies to give it, doesn't mean the *promiscuous people* will actually get it and stop procreating

Lets start talking about gay marriage now

Well, at least THEY don't need birth control!

[RussellJ]

Well, at least THEY don't need birth control!

LMAO

Wow, I laughed so hard when I read that! Awesome

[lil charlie]

Well, at least THEY don't need birth control!

Yeah but you got to give it to them cuz you can’t discriminate.

[fast08busa]

Quite the crap storm I started......

[lil charlie]

Quite the crap storm I started......

I was just going to PM you and say the same thing.

[captain]

What gives you that idea? My arguement is based upon it being cheaper to cover BC than it is a pregnancy. Not about giving anybody something for nothing.

On they church issue again if a church is operating as a business they can't discriminate, how tough is that?

Actually the courts have said that the discrimination laws of employees that work in religious institutions dont apply.. This is why this latest release from the Govt has been taken so seriously...

[Dino]

Actually the courts have said that the discrimination laws of employees that work in religious institutions dont apply.. This is why this latest release from the Govt has been taken so seriously...

They don't apply if that religious institution only serves everyone of that faith. However in the case of something like a hospital or university where multiple faiths are served the institution can't discriminate.

[skydivr]

Again, how can it be discrimination if the Catholic Church denies it for ALL it insure? There's nobody being discriminated against as all are being treated fairly.

[Rainbow7]

I submit the "totally innocent and well intentioned Georgetown Student" who has YET to work a day in her life, have a real job, kids, etc., does not have the life-history or perspective to know squat about this issue.

I disagree. - You see, despite the media trying to portray her as some young, dewy-eyed, innocent victim, Sandra Fluke is in fact 30 years old and has been a professional liberal activist for her entire adult life. She most certainly knows what she is doing.

[skydivr]

By the way, she made a big media statement today turning down the apology, which of course was expected.

[Dino]

Again, how can it be discrimination if the Catholic Church denies it for ALL it insure? There's nobody being discriminated against as all are being treated fairly.

Perhaps discrimination is not the right word. The point is no religious institution acting in the role of a business can impose their faith upon their employees and use that as an excuse to control the health care options in the company insurance plan.

It would be like my faith prohibiting blood transfusions or immunizations and having be not covered by the company insurance plan.