Getting to Know John McCain

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I was sent the below text in email, I did a search and came up with the article which is from the Wall Street Journal

Here is the link.

http://online.wsj.com/article....ntaries

I am going to paste in the text however for two reasons, one so it is easy for people to read and two for historical reasons in case WSJ ever take the article off line.

Intreresting read.



Getting to Know John McCain

By KARL ROVE
April 30, 2008

Doris Day. The Doris Day who is married to Col. Bud Day, Congressional Medal of Honor recipient, fighter pilot, Vietnam POW and roommate of John McCain at the Hanoi Hilton. As we ate near the Days' home in Florida recently, I heard things about Sen. McCain that were deeply moving and politically troubling. Moving because they told me things about him the American people need to know. And troubling because it is clear that Mr. McCain is one of the most private individuals to run for president in history.

When it comes to choosing a president, the American people want to know more about a candidate than policy positions. They want to know about character, the values ingrained in his heart. For Mr. McCain, that means they will want to know more about him personally than he has been willing to reveal.

Mr. Day relayed to me one of the stories Americans should hear. It involves what happened to him after escaping from a North Vietnamese prison during the war. When he was recaptured, a Vietnamese captor broke his arm and said, "I told you I would make you a cripple."

The break was designed to shatter Mr. Day's will. He had survived in prison on the hope that one day he would return to the United States and be able to fly again. To kill that hope, the Vietnamese left part of a bone sticking out of his arm, and put him in a misshapen cast. This was done so that the arm would heal at "a goofy angle," as Mr. Day explained. Had it done so, he never would have flown again.

But it didn't heal that way because of John McCain. Risking severe punishment, Messrs. McCain and Day collected pieces of bamboo in the prison courtyard to use as a splint. Mr. McCain put Mr. Day on the floor of their cell and, using his foot, jerked the broken bone into place. Then, using strips from the bandage on his own wounded leg and the bamboo, he put Mr.
Day's splint in place. Years later, Air Force surgeons examined Mr. Day and complemented the treatment he'd gotten from his captors. Mr. Day corrected them. It was Dr. McCain who deserved the credit. Mr. Day went on to fly again.

Another story I heard over dinner with the Days involved Mr. McCain serving as one of the three chaplains for his fellow prisoners. At one point, after being shuttled among different prisons, Mr. Day had found himself as the most senior officer at the Hanoi Hilton. So he tapped Mr. McCain to help administer religious services to the other prisoners.

Today, Mr. Day, a very active 83, still vividly recalls Mr. McCain's sermons. "He remembered the Episcopal liturgy," Mr. Day says, "and sounded like a bona fide preacher." One of Mr. McCain's first sermons took as its text Luke 20:25 and Matthew 22:21, "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and unto God what is God's." Mr. McCain said he and his fellow prisoners shouldn't ask God to free them, but to help them become the best people they could be while serving as POWs. It was Caesar who put them in prison and Caesar who would get them out. Their task was to act with honor.

Another McCain story, somewhat better known, is about the Vietnamese practice of torturing him by tying his head between his ankles with his arms behind him, and then leaving him for hours. The torture so badly busted up his shoulders that to this day Mr. McCain can't raise his arms over his head.

One night, a Vietnamese guard loosened his bonds, returning at the end of his watch to tighten them again so no one would notice. Shortly after, on Christmas Day, the same guard stood beside Mr. McCain in the prison yard and drew a cross in the sand before erasing it. Mr. McCain later said that when he returned to Vietnam for the first time after the war, the only person he really wanted to meet was that guard.

Mr. Day recalls with pride Mr. McCain stubbornly refusing to accept special treatment or curry favor to be released early, even when gravely ill. Mr. McCain knew the Vietnamese wanted the propaganda victory of the son and grandson of Navy admirals accepting special treatment. "He wasn't corruptible then," Mr. Day says, "and he's not corruptible today."

The stories told to me by the Days involve more than wartime valor. For example, in 1991 Cindy McCain was visiting Mother Teresa's orphanage in Bangladesh when a dying infant was thrust into her hands. The orphanage could not provide the medical care needed to save her life, so Mrs. McCain brought the child home to America with her. She was met at the airport by her husband, who asked what all this was about.

Mrs. McCain replied that the child desperately needed surgery and years of rehabilitation. "I hope she can stay with us," she told her husband. Mr. McCain agreed. Today that child is their teenage daughter Bridget.

I was aware of this story. What I did not know, and what I learned from Doris, is that there was a second infant Mrs. McCain brought back. She ended up being adopted by a young McCain aide and his wife. "We were called at midnight by Cindy," Wes Gullett remembers, and "five days later we met our new daughter Nicki at the L.A. airport wearing the only clothing Cindy could find on the trip back, a 7-Up T-shirt she bought in the Bangkok airport." Today, Nicki is a high school sophomore. Mr. Gullett told me, "I never saw a hospital bill" for her care.

A few, but not many, of the stories told to me by the Days have been written about, such as in Robert Timberg's 1996 book "A Nightingale's Song." But Mr. McCain rarely refers to them on the campaign trail. There is something admirable in his reticence, but he needs to overcome it.

Private people like Mr. McCain are rare in politics for a reason. Candidates who are uncomfortable sharing their interior lives limit their appeal. But if Mr. McCain is to win the election this fall, he has to open up.

Americans need to know about his vision for the nation's future, especially his policy positions and domestic reforms. They also need to learn about the moments in his life that shaped him. Mr. McCain cannot make this a biography-only campaign - but he can't afford to make it a biography-free campaign either. Unless he opens up more, many voters will never know the experiences of his life that show his character, integrity and essential decency.

These qualities mattered in America's first president and will matter as Americans decide on their 44th president.

Mr. Rove is the former senior adviser and deputy chief of staff to President George W. Bush.
 
McCain has my respect..he's a hero his actions in Vietnam is proof
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McCain has my respect too, but some of his views? But then look who's running aginst him, what choice is there?
 
Hmmm...McCain...

Let's see, sucks on immigration, can't manage to handle Arizona; how's he gonna handle the entire US of A?

Almost flunked out of the academy; but daddy bought him a brand new 'Vette for graduation (silver-spoon brat).

Cheated on his wife, and family, yes the ones that stood by him for five years while he was a P.O.W. He left a devoted wife, who was put through the emotional wringer while he was in Hanoi, for a home-wrecking heiress to a beer distributor fortune.

I respect him immensely for his military career, in spite of the above. Surviving one of the worst accidents/fires in the Navy's history, and his nightmare as a guest of Hanoi is by no means a career that can be denied, or overlooked. That's about all that I can say that is positive about him.

Anything that he, or his wife can be connected to that is "good", or "charitable" is nothing more than political theater. Same goes for all the candidates, I suppose.
 
In reality, none of the candidates running should be running. McCain seems to be the lesser of the 3 evils at the moment. What will drive my decision are the VP candidates.
 
In reality, none of the candidates running should be running. McCain seems to be the lesser of the 3 evils at the moment. What will drive my decision are the VP candidates.
That's kind of how I'm beginning to feel...

If McCain chooses Condoleeza Rice, I'm in...never have I had as much respect for a female in politics as I do for Condoleeza...she should be the first female President, not the sloth that is Hillary
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Was sent to fight in an un winable war bound by political handicaps and know he supports the same kind of war. You would think being former military he would know better....
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Fuq McCain
 
In reality, none of the candidates running should be running. McCain seems to be the lesser of the 3 evils at the moment. What will drive my decision are the VP candidates.
That's kind of how I'm beginning to feel...

If McCain chooses Condoleeza Rice, I'm in...never have I had as much respect for a female in politics as I do for Condoleeza...she should be the first female President, not the sloth that is Hillary
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I agree with voting for Rice for president, if she ran I would prefer her over any of the current runners

The sad thing is it seems anyone that would be a worthwhile president does not want to get drug through the politcal mud.
 
Sure McCain is a great candidate and suffered greatly as a POW but...... Hilary had to run from sniper fire getting off a plane
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Sure McCain is a great candidate and suffered greatly as a POW  but...... Hilary had to run from sniper fire getting off a plane
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You didnt actually believe that did you? Hell when i was deployed days before important people came there was a lot of action outside the wall and when they were there nothing.Except for Toby Keith but dont know how important he is to anyone...
 
Vote "NONE OF THE ABOVE"!

Neither of the two parties have the future of our country at heart.  They just care about what they can squeeze us for before it explodes in their faces!
 
McCain is a conquered man and one that I wouldn't want to have access to the big red button! And Rice...for Prez? Surely you must be joking!?! She is nothing but a Bush lackey.
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If Obama is catching hell behind his former pastor, you mean to tell me that some of you would give old Condi a "fair" chance??

It is truly sad that no matter how much this country has changed/grown, it is still overwhelmingly evident that it still comes down to black & white politics.

People make fun of his name, act of fool about his extremist former pastor, but what about his policies. I have seen tremendous support for Obama from his constituents (of all ethnicities).

I used to have far more respect for Hilary. But she would buy Bill a busload of trailer park strippers if it would get her in the white house!!

As far as McCain is concerned, he gets much respect for being a P.o.W. other that, he is old and out of touch. As mentioned earlier, how can he run the farm, when he can't keep the illegals out the chicken coup (Arizona)?
 
If Obama is catching hell behind his former pastor, you mean to tell me that some of you would give old Condi a "fair" chance??

It is truly sad that no matter how much this country has changed/grown, it is still overwhelmingly evident that it still comes down to black & white politics.

People make fun of his name, act of fool about his extremist former pastor, but what about his policies. I have seen tremendous support for Obama from his constituents (of all ethnicities).

I used to have far more respect for Hilary. But she would buy Bill a busload of trailer park strippers if it would get her in the white house!!

As far as McCain is concerned, he gets much respect for being a P.o.W. other that, he is old and out of touch. As mentioned earlier, how can he run the farm, when he can't keep the illegals out the chicken coup (Arizona)?
What do you mean by black and white politics?
 
If Obama is catching hell behind his former pastor, you mean to tell me that some of you would give old Condi a "fair" chance??
Obama made a very bad decision(Both politically and morally) not to completly sever ties with the pastor. He half a$$ wrote it off and I think it has jumped up and bit him because of it. The pastor is 2 fries short of a happy meal if you ask me and these quotes all but prove that..

The following is a list of some of the inflammatory and anti-American comments made by Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., during his sermons at Trinity United Church of Christ.

"“ September 2001: "The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color. The government lied."￾

"“ September 2001: "We bombed Hiroshima. We bombed Nagasaki. And we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon and we never batted an eye."￾

"“ September 2001: "We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because of stuff we have done overseas is now brought back into our own backyard. America is chickens coming home to roost."￾

"“ April 2003: "The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes three-strike laws and wants them to sing God Bless America. No! No No! God damn America "¦ for killing innocent people. God damn America for threatening citizens as less than humans. God damn America as long as she tries to act like she is God and supreme."￾

"“ December 2007: "Barack knows what it means living in a country and a culture that is controlled by rich, white people. Hillary would never know that."￾

"“ December 2007: "Hillary ain't never been called a n_ _ _. Hillary has never had a people defined as a non-person."￾

"“ Jan. 13, 2008: "Hillary is married to Bill, and Bill has been good to us. No he ain't! Bill did us, just like he did Monica Lewinsky. He was riding dirty."￾
 
any article written by a spin doctor (look who the author is) is genuinely suspect

I think operation chaos is working wonderfully myself
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any article written by a spin doctor (look who the author is) is genuinely suspect

I think operation chaos is working wonderfully myself  
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I don't know the author as I also don't know McCain on a personal level. But, I have read many many articles of McCains military history(his POW story should have been made a movie). I would say the author is right on track with what I have read.

There is NO WAY anyone could accuse McCain of being a "silver spooned brat". If he was he wouldn't have even touch the soil during that war. Truthfully he could have went back when his ship caught fire. I am quite sure that 95% of the human race would have went back. The 5% that would have stayed and went through what he did IS the definition of a HERO...

As far as his political career, who really knows.. I think they all have someone whispering in there ear while someone else is dropping some kind of bribe in their pocket. Just go and rent the movie The Distinguished Gentleman and you will see what I mean..


Operation Chaos is a good read. Can't really argue with Rush's theory but I like how he actually takes credit for it..
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I think just about everybody seen this comming with Hilary being the Sucubus that she is..
 
Hmmm...silver spooned brat is right for McCain. So you have a cadet the finishes towards the bottom of his class and you think he is responsible enough to fly million/billion dollar aircrafts. That has his dads prints all over it. Make him a pilot because the admiral says so, and yes the **** does work like that.

I do commend all POWs and have a lot of respect for them and even McCain. We shouldnt elect a president based on what's happend to him, but on what he's gonna do when he gets in office. He will continue to help big business (tax breaks), dump our money into the middle east since tanks dont run on medals and war stories, and continue to allow our young men and women to die, but for what?

So as i mentioned earlier Fuq
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