Dallas Motorcycle accidents

[SLO MO]

  What really kills me is all these first time riders getting bikes that are way more powerful for their riding ablities and that does not help matter point in case we had a guy in my dealership last Saturday never rode before in his life but bought a brand new GSXR-1000.  I was like Dude please go buy yourself some good gear and please ride safe and then I started to  

for him

Yep wittness that quite a bit here. Just last week a dude bought a 08
R1.....looked to be all of 18/19? Told the salesman this will be his 1st
bike.  

 

I could not work @ a bike dealership. I would fired within the first hour, by refusing to sell to a newb.

I wonder how many dealears across the country offer MSF course and M endorsement with the purchase of a new bike? I bought mine in Colorado and they gave me a voucher for it. Once again I believe a fool is a fool no matter what he or she is riding, without proper training or common sense they will more than likely drop anything.

 

[TruWrecks]

I have a friend the passed the local MSF, and wanted a GSXR1000 as his first bike. I talked to him and asked him to try a GSXR600 first, then think about it for a few days. I went with him to the dealership and helped him setup a test ride on a 600. I rode with him on the test. He did pretty well with it. I told him during the test ride and told him to wind it to 7K in third gear so he could feel a little bit of the torque the 600 had. It startled him. He also had a huge smile on his face when we stopped. He went back a few days later to ride a 750. He dicided the 750 would probably be a bike he could grow into without being enough to scare him senseless. He is now NOT the onwer of a GSXR1000, but instead a very nice 750. It's still a lot of bike for a newbie, but he will be better off if he takes his time to develop his skills on that then the 1000.

 

[SLO MO]

I have a friend the passed the local MSF, and wanted a GSXR1000 as his first bike.  I talked to him and asked him to try a GSXR600 first, then think about it for a few days.  I went with him to the dealership and helped him setup a test ride on a 600.  I rode with him on the test.  He did pretty well with it.  I told him during the test ride and told him to wind it to 7K in third gear so he could feel a little bit of the torque the 600 had.  It startled him.  He also had a huge smile on his face when we stopped.  He went back a few days later to ride a 750.  He dicided the 750 would probably be a bike he could grow into without being enough to scare him senseless.  He is now NOT the onwer of a GSXR1000, but instead a very nice 750.  It's still a lot of bike for a newbie, but he will be better off if he takes his time to develop his skills on that then the 1000.

intresting....I learned to ride years ago (self taught)on my buddies 750 zuki srad and picked up a lot of bad habbits, hadn't rode for over 12 yrs, wanted a bike bought a 08 Busa took the MSF passed the test and was like damn I had a lot of bad habbits then to get comfortable again this is what I did.

My common sense approach
1. First did the folowing in c mode:
  a)Practiced emergency stops to get a feel for hard braking on this beast.
  b)Set up cones and did figure 8's for balance and practiced avoiding     hazzards and cornering.
  c)Hard accel to get the feel.
2. Switched to A mode and repeated the above steps, then on to the street:
  a)Local riding under 55.
  b)Night time riding under 55.
  c)Highway riding.
  d)250 mile road trip thru moutains lots of twisties blind corners, decreasing radius turns and gravel at the apex of turns but had all the skills to deal with it.

Today I throw this bike around like it was a 600 and glad I didn't waste money on something smaller that I didn't want.

 

[Mr Bogus]

I have a friend the passed the local MSF, and wanted a GSXR1000 as his first bike. I talked to him and asked him to try a GSXR600 first, then think about it for a few days. I went with him to the dealership and helped him setup a test ride on a 600. I rode with him on the test. He did pretty well with it. I told him during the test ride and told him to wind it to 7K in third gear so he could feel a little bit of the torque the 600 had. It startled him. He also had a huge smile on his face when we stopped. He went back a few days later to ride a 750. He dicided the 750 would probably be a bike he could grow into without being enough to scare him senseless. He is now NOT the onwer of a GSXR1000, but instead a very nice 750. It's still a lot of bike for a newbie, but he will be better off if he takes his time to develop his skills on that then the 1000.

intresting....I learned to ride years ago (self taught)on my buddies 750 zuki srad and picked up a lot of bad habbits, hadn't rode for over 12 yrs, wanted a bike bought a 08 Busa took the MSF passed the test and was like damn I had a lot of bad habbits then to get comfortable again this is what I did.

My common sense approach
1. First did the folowing in c mode:
a)Practiced emergency stops to get a feel for hard braking on this beast.
b)Set up cones and did figure 8's for balance and practiced avoiding hazzards and cornering.
c)Hard accel to get the feel.
2. Switched to A mode and repeated the above steps, then on to the street:
a)Local riding under 55.
b)Night time riding under 55.
c)Highway riding.
d)250 mile road trip thru moutains lots of twisties blind corners, decreasing radius turns and gravel at the apex of turns but had all the skills to deal with it.

Today I throw this bike around like it was a 600 and glad I didn't waste money on something smaller that I didn't want.

no offense but there is no way you could be pitching this bike around like that, even the best seasoned riders can not overcome the physics of this "large" bike...

I have seen a few that would sure give it a run for its money... You I fear are setting yourself up for a nasty awakening... Competence on this bike is achieved over years, not a thousand miles or so.. You may feel like Rossi, but this type of statement makes me think you will end up riding way over your head to keep up with faster riders with dire consequences.....

Do try to bring your ego back to earth before something bad happens...

 

[SLO MO]

I have a friend the passed the local MSF, and wanted a GSXR1000 as his first bike.  I talked to him and asked him to try a GSXR600 first, then think about it for a few days.  I went with him to the dealership and helped him setup a test ride on a 600.  I rode with him on the test.  He did pretty well with it.  I told him during the test ride and told him to wind it to 7K in third gear so he could feel a little bit of the torque the 600 had.  It startled him.  He also had a huge smile on his face when we stopped.  He went back a few days later to ride a 750.  He dicided the 750 would probably be a bike he could grow into without being enough to scare him senseless.  He is now NOT the onwer of a GSXR1000, but instead a very nice 750.  It's still a lot of bike for a newbie, but he will be better off if he takes his time to develop his skills on that then the 1000.

intresting....I learned to ride years ago (self taught)on my buddies 750 zuki srad and picked up a lot of bad habbits, hadn't rode for over 12 yrs, wanted a bike bought a 08 Busa took the MSF passed the test and was like damn I had a lot of bad habbits then to get comfortable again this is what I did.

My common sense approach
1. First did the folowing in c mode:
  a)Practiced emergency stops to get a feel for hard braking on this beast.
  b)Set up cones and did figure 8's for balance and practiced avoiding     hazzards and cornering.
  c)Hard accel to get the feel.
2. Switched to A mode and repeated the above steps, then on to the street:
  a)Local riding under 55.
  b)Night time riding under 55.
  c)Highway riding.
  d)250 mile road trip thru moutains lots of twisties blind corners, decreasing radius turns and gravel at the apex of turns but had all the skills to deal with it.

Today I throw this bike around like it was a 600 and glad I didn't waste money on something smaller that I didn't want.

no offense but there is no way you could be pitching this bike around like that, even the best seasoned riders can not overcome the physics of this "large" bike...  

I have seen a few that would sure give it a run for its money... You I fear are setting yourself up for a nasty awakening...   Competence on this bike is achieved over years, not a thousand miles or so..  You may feel like Rossi, but this type of statement makes me think you will end up riding way over your head to keep up with faster riders with dire consequences.....

Do try to bring your ego back to earth before something bad happens...

Sorry that's a negative my friend, number one if I took the time to go thru all of that prep work do you really think I'm the type that's wreckless and tries to push limits

I don't race, don't try stunts and I'm allergic to foolishness so I would never set myself up for failure ya dig  

and maybe it's to many weights or something but this thing doesn't feel heavy at all to me and in fact the female riding instructor which by the way competes on a slow maneuver drill team almost died laughing when I said "yeah this Busa is a heavy bike" she said "that aint heavy, my first bike weighed 1100 pounds and I didn't know how to ride". This woman did amazing things on a bike at slow speeds  

 

[Shanling]

SLO MO - Your sig says "A busa was my first bike". Do you know what it is like to throw around a 600? Just wondering...

 

[SLO MO]

SLO MO - Your sig says "A busa was my first bike". Do you know what it is like to throw around a 600? Just wondering...

Yes my freind and I'll clarify (My first bike) means the first bike I owned, also in that info I gave I said I learned on a 750, wasn't mine, during this time I also rode other bikes one was a 600 it was so small and handled I threw it around, now because I didn't own them and I was young and willing to take risk, I did dumb stuff by God's grace I never dropped them; also the time was so short, wreckless and so long ago I really don't even count it as experience so I will also say I learned to ride (the correct way)on a Busa 

I wanted to start all over again. Oh maybe we have diffrent definitions of (throwing it around) here's what I'm saying it does not feel heavy or hard to balance now maybe if I just recently got off a smaller bike then got on it it would feel diffrent, kinda like if you go from a escort to a Ferrari with in a couple of days span then you would be like WOW, well if you haven't driven in over a decade and a half and get that Ferarri what are you really comparing it too when you forgot the feel of another car your point of ref is the Ferarri.

 

[BlueHaya]

One of the wrecks...Tuesday I believe..was a worker at a plant in the industry I work in...he was killed.

Be careful guys

 

[dbf82]

That sux about those crashes

 

[volunteer]

SLO MO - Your sig says "A busa was my first bike". Do you know what it is like to throw around a 600? Just wondering...

Yes my freind and I'll clarify (My first bike) means the first bike I owned, also in that info I gave I said I learned on a 750, wasn't mine, during this time I also rode other bikes one was a 600 it was so small and handled I threw it around, now because I didn't own them and I was young and willing to take risk, I did dumb stuff by God's grace I never dropped them; also the time was so short, wreckless and so long ago I really don't even count it as experience so I will also say I learned to ride (the correct way)on a Busa 

I wanted to start all over again. Oh maybe we have diffrent definitions of (throwing it around) here's what I'm saying it does not feel heavy or hard to balance now maybe if I just recently got off a smaller bike then got on it it would feel diffrent, kinda like if you go from a escort to a Ferrari with in a couple of days span then you would be like WOW, well if you haven't driven in over a decade and a half and get that Ferarri what are you really comparing it too when you forgot the feel of another car your point of ref is the Ferarri.

No hate here, just some advice from someone who was once in your shoes. From the sounds of things, you're at the point in your motorcycling life where you're most at risk for an accident. You've made it through the first few thousand miles, and now you're starting to push a little bit.

Go easy.  

 

[Shanling]

SLO MO - Your sig says "A busa was my first bike". Do you know what it is like to throw around a 600? Just wondering...

Yes my freind and I'll clarify (My first bike) means the first bike I owned, also in that info I gave I said I learned on a 750, wasn't mine, during this time I also rode other bikes one was a 600 it was so small and handled I threw it around, now because I didn't own them and I was young and willing to take risk, I did dumb stuff by God's grace I never dropped them; also the time was so short, wreckless and so long ago I really don't even count it as experience so I will also say I learned to ride (the correct way)on a Busa 

I wanted to start all over again. Oh maybe we have diffrent definitions of (throwing it around) here's what I'm saying it does not feel heavy or hard to balance now maybe if I just recently got off a smaller bike then got on it it would feel diffrent, kinda like if you go from a escort to a Ferrari with in a couple of days span then you would be like WOW, well if you haven't driven in over a decade and a half and get that Ferarri what are you really comparing it too when you forgot the feel of another car your point of ref is the Ferarri.

Fair enough SLO. Just remember, there are only two types of riders. Those that have been down and those that have not. I have had many bikes over my life and none compared with the Busa's speed. I have also had three(3) incidents on the Busa. First was due to a stupidity and testosterone combination that ended with me flying off into the desert at 100+mph. Bike had to be hauled away and I was bruised and bleeding but limped away. Second was on the I-10 in Southern California when a cage decided to occupy my lane at 80mph. Tank banger in bumper to bumper LA 80mph traffic that I somehow recovered. No skill, pure luck. KOKLOL, another org member witnessed that one. Third was a slow one where a lady in a big Mercedes turned left in front of me and I laid her down. Happened in Costa Mesa and KOKLOL got to watch that one too as he was behind me. Point is, I have been riding for 39 years and nothing gets as fast as the Busa does as quickly as the Busa. That is what got me in trouble the first time, I ran out of road. Just don't let it get away from you as it can happen in the blink of an eye. And when it happens that fast, you don't have a lot of time to react. The car that came into my lane...one second I was doing fine and the next I was looking at some old Mexican lady in the back seat of the car thinking she would be the last face I saw. Oh, and I always ride with gear on and always have. Be safe and not a statistic.

 

[Copperone]

I ride my GSXR 750 to work every day instead of driving my pick up. It costs almost $100 to fill the pick up and $14 to fill the GSXR. Definately made a difference in my budget.

 

[SLO MO]

SLO MO - Your sig says "A busa was my first bike". Do you know what it is like to throw around a 600? Just wondering...

Yes my freind and I'll clarify (My first bike) means the first bike I owned, also in that info I gave I said I learned on a 750, wasn't mine, during this time I also rode other bikes one was a 600 it was so small and handled I threw it around, now because I didn't own them and I was young and willing to take risk, I did dumb stuff by God's grace I never dropped them; also the time was so short, wreckless and so long ago I really don't even count it as experience so I will also say I learned to ride (the correct way)on a Busa 

I wanted to start all over again. Oh maybe we have diffrent definitions of (throwing it around) here's what I'm saying it does not feel heavy or hard to balance now maybe if I just recently got off a smaller bike then got on it it would feel diffrent, kinda like if you go from a escort to a Ferrari with in a couple of days span then you would be like WOW, well if you haven't driven in over a decade and a half and get that Ferarri what are you really comparing it too when you forgot the feel of another car your point of ref is the Ferarri.

No hate here, just some advice from someone who was once in your shoes. From the sounds of things, you're at the point in your motorcycling life where you're most at risk for an accident. You've made it through the first few thousand miles, and now you're starting to push a little bit.

Go easy.  

I hear ya but I don't think you guys understand or completely read what I said, MY NAME IS SLO MO as in SLOW MOTION because I don't speed and (just like I said before)what part of anything in the post equals (I'm going to push the limits) I said I took a baby step approach to getting on the road and because I did that I'm fully comfortable with the bike and my abilities, I also said that I don't race, stunt or put myself in bad situations so I have reached my goal; so if pushing the limits is riding the speed limit plus 5, proper cornering entry speed,approach and exit, assuming no one can see me, keeping eyes in fron back and side to side, going to work late to avoid the idiots rushing to work, planing exits out of possible bad situations before they occur, never riding in a blind spot, watching drivers hand positions, eyes and lane position, anticipating next moves then oh well guess I'm pushing it

 

[SLO MO]

SLO MO - Your sig says "A busa was my first bike". Do you know what it is like to throw around a 600? Just wondering...

Yes my freind and I'll clarify (My first bike) means the first bike I owned, also in that info I gave I said I learned on a 750, wasn't mine, during this time I also rode other bikes one was a 600 it was so small and handled I threw it around, now because I didn't own them and I was young and willing to take risk, I did dumb stuff by God's grace I never dropped them; also the time was so short, wreckless and so long ago I really don't even count it as experience so I will also say I learned to ride (the correct way)on a Busa 

I wanted to start all over again. Oh maybe we have diffrent definitions of (throwing it around) here's what I'm saying it does not feel heavy or hard to balance now maybe if I just recently got off a smaller bike then got on it it would feel diffrent, kinda like if you go from a escort to a Ferrari with in a couple of days span then you would be like WOW, well if you haven't driven in over a decade and a half and get that Ferarri what are you really comparing it too when you forgot the feel of another car your point of ref is the Ferarri.

Fair enough SLO. Just remember, there are only two types of riders. Those that have been down and those that have not. I have had many bikes over my life and none compared with the Busa's speed. I have also had three(3) incidents on the Busa. First was due to a stupidity and testosterone combination that ended with me flying off into the desert at 100+mph. Bike had to be hauled away and I was bruised and bleeding but limped away. Second was on the I-10 in Southern California when a cage decided to occupy my lane at 80mph. Tank banger in bumper to bumper LA 80mph traffic that I somehow recovered. No skill, pure luck. KOKLOL, another org member witnessed that one. Third was a slow one where a lady in a big Mercedes turned left in front of me and I laid her down. Happened in Costa Mesa and KOKLOL got to watch that one too as he was behind me. Point is, I have been riding for 39 years and nothing gets as fast as the Busa does as quickly as the Busa. That is what got me in trouble the first time, I ran out of road. Just don't let it get away from you as it can happen in the blink of an eye. And when it happens that fast, you don't have a lot of time to react. The car that came into my lane...one second I was doing fine and the next I was looking at some old Mexican lady in the back seat of the car thinking she would be the last face I saw. Oh, and I always ride with gear on and always have. Be safe and not a statistic.

Thanks for your concern and glad u made out of those situations and yes accidents can happen to anyone, I do my part and also pray before I strap on the first piece of gear. Guys I know the bike is fast but my point is, just because you have a buffet in front of you you don't have to eat everything. In order for the bike to get away from you (in relation to speed) you have to twist the throttle the rider controls that, it's not stuck in haul ass position as soon as you get it in gear, maybe it's hard for me to relay this by typing but it's not rocket science to me and I've already had close calls but by the grace of GOD and proper training I avoided disaster controlling my speed and seeking out trouble 2, 4 and 12 sec ahead allowed me to make the proper adjustments. 1.)Cager entering the highway (saw her and was able to get out) 2)At a light cager from behind not stopping (because I don't stop directly behind someone I was able to bounce in between stopped cagers. 3)Cager in turning lane decided she did not want to turn (because I was looking at her hands and wheel position knew she was going to do it, I was going slow enough and had already anticipated the move jumped in the emergency lane and then gave her the finger). 4)Blind curve at the apex sand, gravel and rocks from the hill above(was at the proper speed and set up for the curve to see the hazzard sit the bike up slightly, got off throttle with no traction loss avoided the bigger hazzard and completed the turn. 5) Approached stop traffic at a light that you couldn't see until the crown of the hill(because I practiced emergency stops, I stopped I didn't mean to lock the rear up but once it did I didn't let it go so it could regain trac and highside me, immediately got out of there split cagers cause I new somebody was coming looking in the mirror a f250 came flying over the hill locked up and tagged the car that was in front of me, I never took that route again.