Y people complain about paying taxes.

[4HSMEN]

I wish my work would allow me to move to Holland.
We are becoming, as a Nation, dumber and more selfish and closed minded.
The taxes in the Netherlands are huge but in return you live in a civilized Country.
I wish more Americans who complained at least had a Passport.
I love America but damn sometimes it's hard.

 

[Busa1166]

I see people complaining about paying more taxes, but I see it raise my taxes, as long as it gets more teachers in schools and more police officers on the streets. Americans dont know how easy they have it, taxes here are small compared to people in Europe. I will pay more as long as Everyone gets healthcare, and everyone gets free education and I mean college education too.

Protect the MIDDLE CLASS and u will help everyone in the end. Bush gave tax cuts for the RICH not middle class. Obama is helping the middle class. Y is that so horrible.

And they need to set a cap on how much people in the Gov't can make, I think $200K a year is more than enough, and then send the other $800k to help the US economy. Really teachers make $30K a year, and police officers at 40K a year, whats wrong with this photo. Managers at McDonalds make more.

I don't complain about paying taxes, I complain about how it's being spent. I mean that on the federal, state,county, all the way down to the city level.

In my opinion there is a lot of money collected in taxes yet there is no money for anything. States going bankrupt counties an cities. So obviously the money is being mismanaged an to correct this miss management they raise the taxes on business and the people. No matter how much you raise it if they are either throwing it away or putting it in their pockets nothing will get done

There are so many problems with the system and in so many different ways from place to place/ state to state the words used to describe the insanity can't be written in this forum.

yes we need to pay our fire fighters/police/teachers & even our garbage men a fit salary, one that they can live on. But don't we all need that.

L.A. Unified pays teachers not to teach - Los Angeles Times

I spend a lot more time reading than I used to for the simple reason there is no information in the news on TV, after reading what is going on an being done I truly understand why people are buying up gold an guns an ammo

This is not the only state with problems like this, there are many teachers out there in different states that have deemed unfit to teach because they are actually a danger to the students but they can't be fired so they got to a place do nothing an get paid an not a little chump change either. I can't find the article but there is one that hasn't worked in the last 15 years an is still making over 75,000 a year for not working an when he goes to do nothing he spends his time running a few other business that are making him money besides his free check from the city/state.

If you think that there is a viable an workable plan being executed or attempted by the administration, I respectfully disagree with you.. I was a supporter of Obama but after seeing what he has done an what he is trying to do I no longer do. I believe raising the taxes necessary but if they throwing the money away or flat out lining people's pocket with it, you might as well leave it in mine.

 

[goblinsix]

I have three family members who are teaches, one just retired. 100.000? Please tell me what school district EVER pays that much, pleassseee.

New York and Chicago for starters....look it up sir. There are school districts where tenured and unionized teachers do quite well. Have you not been following the news about the $120K per year teacher in NYC who sits in the rubber room?

It all depends upon the school district. Not all teachers make this kind of money obviously...but there are plenty of those who do.

Here's a snippet from the NY Times: The teachers generally spend months or even years in the so-called rubber rooms playing Scrabble, reading or surfing the Internet while still collecting full salaries of $70,000 a year or more.

Does the "or more" part not make any sense to you? Start doing some research.

My next post will be about William Shattner...stay tuned.

 

[TruWrecks]

I wish my work would allow me to move to Holland.
We are becoming, as a Nation, dumber and more selfish and closed minded.
The taxes in the Netherlands are huge but in return you live in a civilized Country.
I wish more Americans who complained at least had a Passport.
I love America but damn sometimes it's hard.

Seems this post was a little closed minded.

 

[Rauzer]

So you find it perfectly acceptable to force the hard working citizens of this country to pay for the benefits of those that are unwilling to make an effort to support themselves? Yes, there are some that are unable, but I am speaking of the ones that are unwilling. You support this? Why should I be bothered to earn a living wage if the government is just going to give me money? What is my incentive to excel if the government is simply going to take my excess and hand it to my lazy brethren?



Top 5% pay 53.25% of all income taxes (Down from 2000 figure: 56.47%). The top 10% pay 64.89% (Down from 2000 figure: 67.33%). The top 25% pay 82.9% (Down from 2000 figure: 84.01%). The top 50% pay 96.03% (Down from 2000 figure: 96.09%). The bottom 50%? They pay a paltry 3.97% of all income taxes. The top 1% is paying more than ten times the federal income taxes than the bottom 50%! And who earns what? The top 1% earns 17.53 (2000: 20.81%) of all income. The top 5% earns 31.99 (2000: 35.30%). The top 10% earns 43.11% (2000: 46.01%); the top 25% earns 65.23% (2000: 67.15%), and the top 50% earns 86.19% (2000: 87.01%) of all the income.

Tell me again how the rich are being favored.



I know of no government employee that makes more than $250,000/yr. If you believe that government employees are making $1,000,000 annually, you might need to check your facts.

Secondly, I know of no teacher that makes $30K annually. Perhaps in some impoverished areas this might be true. Even so, they work 9 months out of the year with the option to work 12 for additional salary. Most teacher salaries I have seen are in excess of $40K and range up to $100K for lifers.

Law Enforcement officers salaries are low, I agree. Even so, you're talking about Federal versus local government. This is not a national issue, it is a local issue, teachers included. The Federal Government does not set pay rates for state and local agencies.

Excellent post

 

[DevilDawg1]

Do away with payroll taxes, and the IRS (as we know it).

Make a flat sales tax and leave it alone. This way everyone who buys gallon of milk or fills their car with fuel pays their fair share of taxes.

If a person is smart enough to come up with an idea to make 1,000,000.00 let him (this is called captalism) why should this person have to pay more in taxes than someone else.

The sales tax would tax everyone on the same basis, whether a person was in this country leagally or not.

 

[mike LE13R]

the main problem i have with taxes is that a lot of it goes to "poor" people. i hate to sound like this but most people are "poor" because they never got off their lazy a**'s to do anything with themselves. my dad was paralyzed about 2 years ago now, and when i was helping him get the paperwork done for disability he was denied because he owned to many things (motorcycle, 2 cars, house, 401k, savings account) his parents died when he was 17 and worked from then till he was 54 and became disabled, and before he could get any kind of help from the government he had to sell his bike, one of his cars, and have no more than $2,000 in the bank. so he is being penalized for working paying taxes and doing something with his life while "poor" people are laying back getting food stamps, free health care, and rent assistance while never really working a day in their lives. i may be wrong or you may think i'm wrong for the way i feel but i don't care, if you don't do anything for your self than nobody else should either.

as far as education, thats where the money should be going. if there weren't so many stupid people out there we wouldn't need more cops. my daughter is in advanced classes at school, but they shouldn't be advanced they should be standard. i understand that some people are not as smart as others but they can be taught. and it doesn't help that we have a teacher trying to teach 35 to 40 kids in one class. we have schools closing and jails going up like crazy. jail= more tax dollars while education=more tax payers. whats so hard to figure out? thats my 2 pennies.

 

[B@DA$$08BUS@]

Excellent post! The fact of the matter is no matter what, people are going to b*@ch about taxes and whoever is in office, and if the tables were turned, they'd still be complaining about who was in office AND TAXES!!!

So you find it perfectly acceptable to force the hard working citizens of this country to pay for the
benefits of those that are unwilling to make an effort to support themselves? Yes, there are some that are unable, but I am speaking of the ones that are unwilling. You support this? Why should I be bothered to earn a living wage if the government is just going to give me money? What is my incentive to excel if the government is simply going to take my excess and hand it to my lazy brethren?



Top 5% pay 53.25% of all income taxes (Down from 2000 figure: 56.47%). The top 10% pay 64.89% (Down from 2000 figure: 67.33%). The top 25% pay 82.9% (Down from 2000 figure: 84.01%). The top 50% pay 96.03% (Down from 2000 figure: 96.09%). The bottom 50%? They pay a paltry 3.97% of all income taxes. The top 1% is paying more than ten times the federal income taxes than the bottom 50%! And who earns what? The top 1% earns 17.53 (2000: 20.81%) of all income. The top 5% earns 31.99 (2000: 35.30%). The top 10% earns 43.11% (2000: 46.01%); the top 25% earns 65.23% (2000: 67.15%), and the top 50% earns 86.19% (2000: 87.01%) of all the income.

Tell me again how the rich are being favored.



I know of no government employee that makes more than $250,000/yr. If you believe that government employees are making $1,000,000 annually, you might need to check your facts.

Secondly, I know of no teacher that makes $30K annually. Perhaps in some impoverished areas this might be true. Even so, they work 9 months out of the year with the option to work 12 for additional salary. Most teacher salaries I have seen are in excess of $40K and range up to $100K for lifers.

Law Enforcement officers salaries are low, I agree. Even so, you're talking about Federal versus local government. This is not a national issue, it is a local issue, teachers included.
The Federal Government does not set pay rates for state and local agencies.

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[Lamb busa]

Great! Another person happy to spend Lamb's hard earned money.

 

[Justyntym]

Excellent post! The fact of the matter is no matter what, people are going to b*@ch about taxes and whoever is in office, and if the tables were turned, they'd still be complaining about who was in office AND TAXES!!!



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Sorry your wrong...anyone who really believes that or is using that tired
excuse is either missing it or just not aware of what's going on.

People are not complaining about the amount as much as what it's being used
for, in spite of the majority wishes and fiscal COMMON sense. I would not have
as much of an issue if we were paying our debt down and controlling our spending,
instead were ramping up all new trillion dollar entitlement programs.

They also realize the poo storm of additional taxes that are comming. The fact
that Congress is considering Cap and Trade and a V.A.T. tax, despite using
common sense and just cutting spending, is far from comforting seeing as
how Congress and the president just rammed healthKare up the publics .
It's not like they exactly listen to us, hence the taxation without representation
and why the Tea Party is gaining strength...hello.

To just spew "everyone complains about taxes" is being in denial of the situation.
Sure people have complained about taxes since they were initiated, but not
to this degree and not for these reasons.

 

[Justyntym]

Just to put a little perspective on this...

A trillion dollars...$1,000,000,000,000

This is how badly a job they are doing...

You can take Michigan Stadium and fill it with 100,00 people

Pay each person in the stadium $1,000.

Repeat the process EVERY WEEK for the next 192 YEARS.
That's 100 MILLION DOLLARS A WEEK for the next 192 YEARS.

And that's just 1 trillion...and that's not the money they spend,
it's the money THEY OVERSPEND! and with the new entitlements
it's gonna get a lot worse or our taxes are going to go outa sight
or (the highest probability...BOTH).

If the Obamanation has his way, like cap and trade or higher taxes, and it further
hampers the economy, revenues will further go in the toilet increasing
the gap between intake and output.

So some little blurb about how good we have it and how Obama watches
out for us is pretty comical.

 

[afterhours]

"Focusing on the statistical middle class — the middle 20 percent of households, as ranked by income — underlines this point. Households in this group made $35,400 to $52,100 in 2006, the last year for which the Congressional Budget Office has released data. That would describe a household with one full-time worker earning about $17 to $25 an hour. Such hourly pay is typical for firefighters, preschool teachers, computer support specialists, farmers, members of the clergy, mail carriers, secretaries and truck drivers, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Taking into account both taxes and tax credits, the average household in this group paid a total income tax rate of just 3 percent. A good number of people, in fact, paid no net income taxes. They are among the alleged free riders. " from the NY times, 4-14-10.

 

[Jaysus]

I don't have a problem with taxes, I have a problem with the way it's spent...... we could do so much more for what we are paying in now. It's piss poor managment.

 

[B@DA$$08BUS@]

Great! Another person happy to spend Lamb's hard earned money.

I'm guessing your referring to me, but I'm sure you don't pay as much taxes as me and my wife. So I'm guessing your wrong there!
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[B@DA$$08BUS@]

Sorry your wrong...anyone who really believes that or is using that tired
excuse is either missing it or just not aware of what's going on.

People are not complaining about the amount as much as what it's being used
for, in spite of the majority wishes and fiscal COMMON sense. I would not have
as much of an issue if we were paying our debt down and controlling our spending,
instead were ramping up all new trillion dollar entitlement programs.

They also realize the poo storm of additional taxes that are comming. The fact
that Congress is considering Cap and Trade and a V.A.T. tax, despite using
common sense and just cutting spending, is far from comforting seeing as
how Congress and the president just rammed healthKare up the publics .
It's not like they exactly listen to us, hence the taxation without representation
and why the Tea Party is gaining strength...hello.

To just spew "everyone complains about taxes" is being in denial of the situation.
Sure people have complained about taxes since they were initiated, but not
to this degree and not for these reasons.

Your right, I'm WRONG! You should be president, you could get the monies right and we could pay NO taxes, that is the only way people would not B(TCH about taxes. Between my wife and I, we probably pay more taxes than most to all people on here so quit whining.
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[Vonderbach]

Easy guys... let's play nice. eace:

 

[afterhours]

the "middle class" is always complaining about taxes.....but the facts are clear. the people complaining pay almost nothing, and are getting a slightly less "free ride" than the "poor" they are always complaining about.

 

[Justyntym]

Wow...you guys just make my head hurt ...no wonder Obama got elected.

 

[Vonderbach]

the "middle class" is always complaining about taxes.....but the facts are clear. the people complaining pay almost nothing, and are getting a slightly less "free ride" than the "poor" they are always complaining about.

There's a difference between the cumulative amount of taxation from the middle class and the tax bracket of your middle class citizen. The middle class tax rate is extremely high. I pay in at the 28% bracket and I am middle class by most estimations. Just because my 28% ends up being a mere pittance compared to Jeffrey Immelt's 35% does not make my contribution any less significant in terms of ideals. I am still contributing a hefty portion of my income to pay for this country's operating expenses.

Are you trying to claim that because I make less money that I am not entitled to share my opinion? Do you support a ruling class government where only the rich should be permitted to share their opinions? I'm at a loss as to why you would make that comment.

 

[skydivr]

New York and Chicago for starters....look it up sir. There are school districts where tenured and unionized teachers do quite well. Have you not been following the news about the $120K per year teacher in NYC who sits in the rubber room?

It all depends upon the school district. Not all teachers make this kind of money obviously...but there are plenty of those who do.

Here's a snippet from the NY Times: The teachers generally spend months or even years in the so-called rubber rooms playing Scrabble, reading or surfing the Internet while still collecting full salaries of $70,000 a year or more.

Does the "or more" part not make any sense to you? Start doing some research.

My next post will be about William Shattner...stay tuned.

You said the magic word..."Unions"...Ironic isn't it that they have the highest paid teachers, yet the quality of the education provided is.....what?.....

I pay in the highest bracket too. Vonderbach, you pay in the 28% bracket and your contribution is no less important than mine...because you PAY, not TAKE...I don't mind paying my FAIR share, but if the definintion of fair is that 10 percent of Americans pay taxes and 90 percent don't and still get a cash refund...we are in BIG trouble. (I know it's not 90/10 but it's going there at this rate).

P.S. Captain Kirk was my idol.