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Hey i just rebuilt my motor and i am wondering if anyone has used z max in their oil. I found one thread where guys said that it might mess up the clutches. Has anyone on here actually tried it?
 
Good question as I have wondered this as well. You can run full synthetic and zmax...but!...will it screw the clutch up?
 
Z-Max, DuroLube, Slick 50, etc. are all loaded with friction modifiers. They will screw up your clutch if you put enough for them to do their job.

You're better off using a good quality oil, dino or synthetic, that doesn't have any friction modifiers. I changed my bikes over to the Suzuki Race Synthetic. No problems, and quite a bit cheaper than Mobile 1 or any of the other high end oils.
 
The fuel treatment is safe for the engine. It is mostly kerosene and a mild detergent and lubricant. Lucas Fuel Treatment is a better and less costly option.
 
have never used it, but if Carrol Shelby endorses it ( and for the record Im PRETTY SURE this is the ONLY commercial he has been in for a product, EVER) I figure its worth a try.:beerchug:
 
well i already bought the stuff because it was the last pack at advance auto so i kinda want to use it haha so i will try the fuel treatment and let you guys know if anything changes.
 
There was something floating around on the net about that stuff being nothing but mineral oil. You shouldn't need any additive with a good oil.???
 
FTC Sues Speedway Motorsports and Oil-Chem Subsidiary

FTC Sues Speedway Motorsports and Oil-Chem Subsidiary
Performance Claims For zMax Auto Additives Are Unsubstantiated, FTC Charges

The Federal Trade Commission has filed suit in U. S. District Court seeking to halt false and misleading advertising for zMax auto additives and has asked the court to order refunds to consumers who bought the products. The agency alleges that enhanced performance claims for the product are unsubstantiated, that tests cited to support performance claims actually demonstrated that motor oil treated with zMax produced more than twice as much bearing corrosion than motor oil alone, and that the three different products - an engine additive, a fuel line additive and a transmission additive - were all actually tinted mineral oil. zMax is manufactured by Oil-Chem, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Speedway Motorsports, Inc. Speedway, based in Concord, North Carolina, operates NASCAR race tracks in the South and in California, in addition to marketing the zMax products.

According to the FTC complaint, since at least May 1999, zMax ran infomercials touting its "Power System," a $39 package of three additives to be used in the engine, fuel line and transmission of automobiles. The infomercials feature testimonials from consumers and race car drivers making claims such as, "I was averaging about 22 miles to the gallon on the highway. I installed the zMax and so I jumped right up to about 28 miles per gallon;" and "zMax guarantees a minimum of 10 percent gas mileage increase." Other marketing and promotional pieces claim, "zMax with LinKite has the scientific, CRC L38 proof it takes your car to the MAX!" and "Why zMAX Works - Cuts carbon build-up on valve stems 66%; Lowers wear on valve stems 66%; Lowers wear on piston skirts 60%; Reduces blow-by leakage 17.7%; Increases combustion efficiency 9.25%; Lowers fuel consumption 8.5% - Results of an independent CRC L38 test."

According to the FTC, the CRC L38 test is a standard auto industry tool to measure the bearing corrosion protection properties of motor oils. In February/March 1997, an independent laboratory performed two CRC L38 tests of zMax for Speedway and Oil Chem. In those tests, motor oil treated with zMax produced more than twice as much bearing corrosion as motor oil alone. The complaint also states that the defendants fabricated one "report" from the two test reports, eliminating the bearing corrosion results and all other negative test results, and then used that report and the "official laboratory results" - similarly edited to remove detrimental data results - as sales tools in the infomercial and on the zMax Web site.

The FTC's complaint alleges that the defendants did not possess and rely on reasonable substantiation for the following claims in the infomercial, on the Web site and in brochures that zMax:

* increases gas mileage;
* increases gas mileage by a minimum of 10%
* reduces engine wear;
* reduces or eliminates engine wear at startup;
* reduces engine corrosion;
* extends engine life; and
* reduces emissions.


The agency's complaint also alleges that the defendants falsely represent that the results of the CRC L38 test proved that zMax:

* increases gas mileage;
* reduces engine wear;
* extends engine life;
* lowers fuel consumption by 8.5%
* lowers wear on valve stems by 66%
* lowers wear on piston skirts by 60%; and
* cuts carbon build-up on valve stems by 66%.


Finally, the FTC charges that in consumer testimonials and endorsements in their advertising, the defendants did not have substantiation for the representation that the endorsers' experiences were, "The actual and current opinions, findings, beliefs, and/or experiences of those consumers; and the typical or ordinary experience of members of the public who use the product."

The FTC is asking the court to bar the defendants from violating the FTC Act, which prohibits deceptive acts and to order consumer redress or require that they give up their ill-gotten gains.

This case is the latest in a series of FTC law-enforcement initiatives targeting unsubstantiated claims made by auto additive manufacturers. The FTC previously halted allegedly deceptive advertising by the marketers of Dura Lube, Motor Up, Prolong, Valvoline, Slick 50, and STP, other major brands of engine treatment products.

The Commission vote to file the complaint was 5-0. It was filed in U.S. District Court for the Middle District of North Carolina, in Greensboro, January 31, 2001.

NOTE: The Commission authorizes the filing of a complaint when it has "reason to believe" that the law has been or is being violated, and it appears to the Commission that a proceeding is in the public interest. The complaint is not a finding or ruling that the defendants actually have violated the law. The case will be decided by the court.
Copies of the complaint are available from the FTC's web site at Federal Trade Commission and also from the FTC's Consumer Response Center, Room 130, 600 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20580. The FTC works for the consumer to prevent fraudulent, deceptive and unfair business practices in the marketplace and to provide information to help consumers spot, stop and avoid them. To file a complaint, or to get free information on any of 150 consumer topics, call toll-free, 1-877-FTC-HELP (1-877-382-4357). The FTC enters Internet, telemarketing and other fraud-related complaints into Consumer Sentinel, a secure, online database available to hundreds of civil and criminal law enforcement agencies worldwide.

Media Contact:
Claudia Bourne Farrell,
Office of Public Affairs
202-326-2181
Staff Contact:
Heather Hippsley or Elaine Kolish,
Bureau of Consumer Protection
202-326-3285 or 202-326-3042

(FTC File No. 002 3256)
(Civil Action No. 1:01CV00126)
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neoBusa said:
rebuilt your motor.. damn and I thought changing my gauge face was major home custom... :bowdown:
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haha yeah i have pics up in a thread titled "head gasket" i was having over heating problems and a rattle i thought was the cam chain. after doing a head job on it to make sure it wasnt the valves and put a manual chain tensioner in and new thermostast and nothing changed... turned out my rod bearings went bad and my number 1 rod was rattling and number 3 and 4 were way to tight and the way they were discolored they had to be glowing red in there. I wasnt aware that i was losing so much power the way it was though because I'm 19 and the busa is my first bike but i am friends with a guy that builds 6 second bikes and he rode it and told me how bad it was haha so i am finishing everything up in the next couple days and its gunna be a screamer.
 
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