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How freakin' politically correct are we going to get? Read this just posted on CNN tonight.

So let me get this. These guys are Somalians, or Al-Shababeans, or maybe they're Minnesotans, or just plain Terrorists, but there is one thing CNN won't call them. Just like Fort Hood.

Cut me a break! :banghead:

Somali-American men face terror-related charges in Minnesota - CNN.com
Somali-American men face terror-related charges in Minnesota
November 23, 2009 6:25 p.m. EST

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MINNEAPOLIS, Minnesota (CNN) -- Eight Somali-American men from Minnesota are charged with federal terror-related counts involving al-Shabaab, a Somali group considered a terror organization by the United States, officials said Monday.

The alleged offenses include providing financial support to those who traveled to Somalia to fight for al-Shabaab, attending terrorist training camps operated by the group and fighting on behalf of al-Shabaab, federal prosecutors said in a release. The U.S. State Department has said al-Shabaab is believed to have ties to al Qaeda.

None of the eight is believed to be currently in the United States, and only one is in custody, the Justice Department said in a news release. Mahamud Said Omar is in Dutch custody after being arrested in the Netherlands.

The charges were filed last week, said B. Todd Jones, U.S. attorney for Minnesota, and were unsealed Monday.

"Thus far, 14 defendants have been charged in the District of Minnesota in indictments or criminal complaints ... in connection with an ongoing investigation into the recruitment of persons from U.S. communities to train with or fight on behalf of extremist groups in Somalia," authorities said. Four have pleaded guilty and are awaiting sentencing. Two have been released pending trial.

The court documents unsealed Monday "provide our Somali community, particularly those who have lost family members to terrorist fighting in Somalia ... with some answers," Jones said.

According to the documents, about 20 young men -- all but one of Somali descent -- left Minneapolis and traveled to Somalia, "where they trained with al-Shabaab against Ethiopian forces, African Union troops, and the internationally supported transitional federal government," federal prosecutors said.

Although the investigation is ongoing, "We have reached -- indeed, passed -- a tipping point of sorts in this matter," said Ralph Boelter, special agent in charge of the FBI's Minneapolis field office.

He said he is confident the case will be fully resolved. However, both he and Jones were reluctant to divulge information beyond that contained in the charging documents, citing the continuing probe.

"I think this is the federal government's attempt at a brushback pitch," said Fran Townsend, who was a homeland security adviser in the Bush administration and is a CNN national security contributor. "That is, to put the Somali community in Minneapolis on notice that if you choose to be recruited to go over and fight, this is not some romantic foreign adventure; the United States government and the law enforcement community are watching. They know you go, they will target you and they will indict you."

There is no indication that any harm was intended to the United States, Boelter said. But with Americans holding U.S. passports attending a terrorist training camp in Somalia operated by al-Shabaab, he said, "it doesn't take great logic to assume there are some risks."

"Obviously we [U.S. officials] do believe they represent a threat, or they wouldn't have indicted them," Townsend said. Authorities do not want to see people with experience gained from Somali training camps coming into the United States, she said.

A sizable group of young men left Minneapolis -- home to the nation's largest Somali population -- last year and were feared recruited by al-Shabaab. Several of them have been reported killed, community leaders in Minnesota have said. The family of one, 20-year-old Jamal Bana, told CNN in July they learned of his death through the Internet. Another one, Shirwa Ahmed, 27, blew himself up and killed 29 others last fall in what is believed to be the first suicide bombing carried out by a naturalized U.S. citizen. The incident raised red flags throughout the U.S. intelligence community.

Al-Shabaab remains entrenched in northeast Somalia and in sections south of the Somali capital, Mogadishu, after fighting that uprooted hundreds of thousands, according to the United Nations. It was designated a terrorist organization by the U.S. government in March 2008.

Asked if any of the eight most recently indicted would be returned to America to stand trial, authorities said the process is complicated. A "long and convoluted extradition process" would be involved in getting the one now in Dutch custody, Jones said.

As for the others, if they are in Somalia, getting them in custody would be a formidable task, he said, given the instability of the nation and the fact that "it's very difficult for the rule of law to take hold" there. If they were apprehended for some reason, however, it's possible they could be returned to America, he said.

But "there's no indication that we have Somali-American, trained terrorists coming back to the United States today from this particular group," Boelter said.

Authorities do not know how many Minneapolis youths remain in Somalia, he said.
 
Mosques and legal non profits in the U.S. have been collecting money and sending it to fight Israel for decades.
 
Don't you have to commit a terrorist act to be a terrorist?
 
why does it matter why someone commits a crime?

i could care less if it was god, the devil or the random voices in his head.

i think that we allow ourselves to get caught up in the things that don't really matter.
 
In contrast, this is the take on the same story from today's Washington Post newspaper:

U.S. says men ran terror network
Eight are charged with recruiting young Somali Americans in Minn.

By Spencer S. Hsu
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, November 24, 2009

Federal authorities unsealed terrorism-related charges against eight men Monday, accusing them of recruiting at least 20 young Somali Americans from Minnesota to join an extremist Islamist insurgency in Somalia.

The newly named suspects make up one of the largest alleged terrorist networks in the United States since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, analysts said. Assistant Attorney General David S. Kris said the government continues to investigate the alleged recruitment, and sources indicated that FBI and grand jury inquiries are active in San Diego, Boston and Columbus, Ohio, into the disappearance abroad of dozens of Muslim Americans since 2007.
 
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Hopefully we will be kept safe. Glad I don't live in a large populated area or near any targets.
 
Kinda late to charge the guy after he blows himself up, isn't it? I belive the correct charge is 'conspiricy to commit terrorist act'
 
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