Sprokets and Rotors question

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When buying a new motorcycle does one really need to upgrade Sprokets and Rotors or are these things best upgraded when needed, as in a waste of money if you have a new motorcycle.

Just don't want to flush money if they really don't do much more, justify the cost.

Thanks

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Scott, that's a highly subjective question. All this stuff costs money. So if you are going to mod the bike, you should put your hard earned dollars where you want it most. Performance. Bling. Brakes. Looks. Motor. Handling. Long-distance travel. Paint. Comfort, & on it goes....

Sprockets riders generally work with different teeth to change either the power off the line, or possibly better gas mileage for distance touring. You'll see the name SuperSprox a lot on this forum, as many us have them. Busa is a high-horsepower high-torque bike so it has some special needs compared to others.

Braking mods are also highly subjective. If you are causal Saturday rider, possibly stock brakes are just fine. Your Busa comes with rubber brake lines though, and a 550lb 170 hp bike, rubber lines are not advisable. But again, depends on ride style. Even region perhaps.

Here in California - there are mountains in every direction I go. All super-twisty. I need excellent brakes.

So put the money were it makes the most sense for you personally.

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Scott, that's a highly subjective question. All this stuff costs money. So if you are going to mod the bike, you should put your hard earned dollars where you want it most. Performance. Bling. Brakes. Looks. Motor. Handling. Long-distance travel. Paint. Comfort, & on it goes....

Sprockets riders generally work with different teeth to change either the power off the line, or possibly better gas mileage for distance touring. You'll see the name SuperSprox a lot on this forum, as many us have them. Busa is a high-horsepower high-torque bike so it has some special needs compared to others.

Braking mods are also highly subjective. If you are causal Saturday rider, possibly stock brakes are just fine. Your Busa comes with rubber brake lines though, and a 550lb 170 hp bike, rubber lines are not advisable. But again, depends on ride style. Even region perhaps.

Here in California - there are mountains in every direction I go. All super-twisty. I need excellent brakes.

So put the money were it makes the most sense for you personally.

Well that just about sums it up.:thumbsup:

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Scott, that's a highly subjective question. All this stuff costs money. So if you are going to mod the bike, you should put your hard earned dollars where you want it most. Performance. Bling. Brakes. Looks. Motor. Handling. Long-distance travel. Paint. Comfort, & on it goes....

Sprockets riders generally work with different teeth to change either the power off the line, or possibly better gas mileage for distance touring. You'll see the name SuperSprox a lot on this forum, as many us have them. Busa is a high-horsepower high-torque bike so it has some special needs compared to others.

Braking mods are also highly subjective. If you are causal Saturday rider, possibly stock brakes are just fine. Your Busa comes with rubber brake lines though, and a 550lb 170 hp bike, rubber lines are not advisable. But again, depends on ride style. Even region perhaps.

Here in California - there are mountains in every direction I go. All super-twisty. I need excellent brakes.

So put the money were it makes the most sense for you personally.

Besides engine work, I am pretty happy with my MODS now. However Sprockets/chain and Rotors are last on my list and I am at the bottom of that list. I think I'll do it. I'll call tomorrow

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Scott, that's a highly subjective question. All this stuff costs money. So if you are going to mod the bike, you should put your hard earned dollars where you want it most. Performance. Bling. Brakes. Looks. Motor. Handling. Long-distance travel. Paint. Comfort, & on it goes....

Sprockets riders generally work with different teeth to change either the power off the line, or possibly better gas mileage for distance touring. You'll see the name SuperSprox a lot on this forum, as many us have them. Busa is a high-horsepower high-torque bike so it has some special needs compared to others.

Braking mods are also highly subjective. If you are causal Saturday rider, possibly stock brakes are just fine. Your Busa comes with rubber brake lines though, and a 550lb 170 hp bike, rubber lines are not advisable. But again, depends on ride style. Even region perhaps.

Here in California - there are mountains in every direction I go. All super-twisty. I need excellent brakes.

So put the money were it makes the most sense for you personally.

I was just going to say the same thing :whistle:Ok maybe not the same thing but close:laugh:

Well said pashnit ...:thumbsup:

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You can go wrong with supersprox, they're super strong and still light weight. I added 4 teeth to my rear, left the front as stock and added a good strong chain. Chains are another hot topic on this board. You NEED a strong chain on a Busa; they have way too much power for a cheap one. Resist the urge when you see the low cost ones on ebay. They will snap and damage the bike and or cause you to crash. You will want to upgrade the rubber brake lines to stainless steel even if you choose to leave your brake pads and rotors as stock. Change out the lines makes the bike stop sooooooo much better.

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You can go wrong with supersprox, they're super strong and still light weight. I added 4 teeth to my rear, left the front as stock and added a good strong chain. Chains are another hot topic on this board. You NEED a strong chain on a Busa; they have way too much power for a cheap one. Resist the urge when you see the low cost ones on ebay. They will snap and damage the bike and or cause you to crash. You will want to upgrade the rubber brake lines to stainless steel even if you choose to leave your brake pads and rotors as stock. Change out the lines makes the bike stop sooooooo much better.

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Scott, that's a highly subjective question. All this stuff costs money. So if you are going to mod the bike, you should put your hard earned dollars where you want it most. Performance. Bling. Brakes. Looks. Motor. Handling. Long-distance travel. Paint. Comfort, & on it goes....

Sprockets riders generally work with different teeth to change either the power off the line, or possibly better gas mileage for distance touring. You'll see the name SuperSprox a lot on this forum, as many us have them. Busa is a high-horsepower high-torque bike so it has some special needs compared to others.

Braking mods are also highly subjective. If you are causal Saturday rider, possibly stock brakes are just fine. Your Busa comes with rubber brake lines though, and a 550lb 170 hp bike, rubber lines are not advisable. But again, depends on ride style. Even region perhaps.

Here in California - there are mountains in every direction I go. All super-twisty. I need excellent brakes.

So put the money were it makes the most sense for you personally.

If I could like a post on tapatalk I would like this. Sums it up good.

As above, don't go cheap on the chain. Go ek ZZZ.

+1 on supersprox

Got my ek zzz from Honda east Justin.
Got my supersprox from pashnit.
Got my rotors and pads from china on ebay :thumbsup: its all perfect
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Try a +3 rear sprocket(46 tooth/gen2). That'll fit with the stock chain and still have plenty of slack for adjustment too.
It'll give you the "feel" of alot more low to midrange power, and you won't notice the lack of top end speed(should still go mid to high 170s, factory restriction is 186mph anyway unless you turn it off).
It also shortens the wheelbase around an inch, good for curves and wheelies.

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If you are causal Saturday rider, possibly stock brakes are just fine. Your Busa comes with rubber brake lines though, and a 550lb 170 hp bike, rubber lines are not advisable.

This is a bit misleading. No, it's actually incorrect all together!

Brakes are the most under-utilized, misunderstood aspect of any motorcycle.

The stock "Rubber" brake lines on your busa only have a rubber coating which is required by DOT for abrasion purposes. Inside you'll find a steel braid which is probably exact or very close to the steel braid on the aftermarket lines. Ever wonder why the aftermarket lines arrive marked "Race Use Only"? Your OEM lines are required by DOT to withstand 4000 psi for two minutes without failure. I don't think mother nature has a rubber tree that produces rubber that strong so other materials must be added in order to withstand the intense pressure.

The real difference in aftermarket lines and OEM may only be the ID of the hose? I have a feeling the aftermarket hose most likely has a smaller ID which gives you that shorter stroke on the lever? Lines without the abrasion coating should hold less heat when the system is stressed, a desired quality. As far as making a difference in braking, the difference is minute unless you get the fluid hot enough to reach the boiling point. If you don't race, that's most likely not going to happen. If you can heat the cheap Wal-Mart DOT4 fluid to the boiling point on the back roads you won't live long enough to brag about it so it's pointless.

As far as rotors, those fancy wave rotors have no advantage over OEM except for additional cooling. I've used both and I cannot tell the difference. They were designed for disbursing water and running cooler was an added surprise benifit. If you don't race, you'll never create enough heat to realize the difference.

Spending big bucks on brake upgrades for street use does little if anything to improve braking. You can lift the rear into a balanced stoppie position with bone stock OEM brakes. What you do improve is brake feel. If brake feel is important to you, then by all means upgrade but don't expect spending big $$$ to suddenly improve your ability to shave 60 ft off your stopping distance from triple digits. It will not! :beerchug:
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