Roaring Toyz 2012 Zx14, Brock tuned it, Ricky rides it to an 8.99-video

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This seems to be the most honest video yet. Roaring Toys Zx, Brock tunes it with a Zx10 pwr cmndr and a pipe and then Ricky rides it to an 8.99. Teasley does easy 9.20 on it. Bone stock motor 125lb of torque.
That's flippin fast!

 
personally I think extending the wheelbase waaaay out is for those that dont have the skill the do it with a shorter wheelbase. if one can go 8's with a stock wheelbase and still be able to drive on the street and take corners reasonably thats the best of both worlds and makes it a true badass street bike imo.
 
I've been a Busa man since they came out, but I would own a ZX14 as a second bike. I need soemthing to go get groceries on. :laugh:
 
In the other threads we were talking about how Busas could run same times but 8.99 is faster than I've seen anyone say a stock motor Busa ran, correct?
 
In the other threads we were talking about how Busas could run same times but 8.99 is faster than I've seen anyone say a stock motor Busa ran, correct?

I've seen a couple of people post 8.80s out of a stock motor Busa. I'm not for sure if they were stretched or not but I believe so. Either way it is still fast and your typical rider will not get anywhere near those times.
 
I don't know much about it but what is there and what they say is in there may be worlds apart...to get the power from an engine..thru a chassis...and to the ground is a package...to put down a bunch of fast runs takes an effort from many people...in any event it is cool what is in the video...you can melt down an engine with a fast run too
 
I found this , looks like the Busa is still with the #s the new zx is putting up . This article is from 08 when the busa changed to the gen II.



It has never been more evident that the major motorcycle manufactures are paying close attention to what's going at the drag strip.

Suzuki, creator the 1340 c.c. Hayabusa, and Kawasaki, creator of the 1352 c.c.ZX-14 have become engaged in an epic battle for straight-line supremacy.

In 1999 Suzuki took the two-wheel performance industry by storm by releasing the Hayabusa and overtaking the Honda CBR 1100XX Super Blackbird as the world's fastest production sport bike. The Hayabusa quickly became the late-model motorcycle of choice among drag racers and seemed to antiquate anything previously produced.

The Hayabusa remained largely unchallenged until 2006 when Kawasaki upgraded its legendary Ninja ZX-12 to a beefier ZX-14. After review many critics favored the ZX-14 over the Hayabusa.

Welcome to 2008. Suzuki responded to its competitor by heavily revising and upgrading the Hayabusa. Along with several other improvements the displacement was increased by 40 c.c.s and the compression ratio was increased from 11:1 to 12.5:1.

Just how much better did Suzuki make the new Hayabusa? We asked the first man to put a street bike in the sevens, Brock Davidson of Brock's Performance Products. Davidson was one of the first men to ride the new Hayabusa.



"It's unbelievably fast. There's no comparison between the old Busa and the new Busa. They look like the same bike, they act like the same bike but the new Hayabusa does everything better. It makes more power everywhere," Davidson said.

After getting the machine to ring-up 177 horsepower at the rear wheel on regular high-octane pump gas, Davidson set out to see how quick he could make the new Hayabusa go at the drag strip.

"The numbers on the dyno were very encouraging, especially on pump gas through the stock exhaust," Davidson said. "That's unheard of."

Davidson's team then performed minor modifications to the bike by adding a front end lowering kit and three positioned dog-bone lowering links to the rear to get the bike as low as possible. A Brock's Performance Ultra Lite Clutch Mod was also added to smooth out the machine's power.



"The back torque limiter in the new Busa is the same as the old Busa," Davidson said. "It makes smooth actuation very difficult for drag racing."

Finally Davidson removed the factory break-in oil and added his Alisyn less than zero weight lubricant.

This virtually stock machine was then transported to the fabled Atco Raceway, in Atco, N.J. to assess its quarter-mile capabilities. Davidson drafted 140-pound rising star Richard Gadson, nephew of well-noted Kawasaki factory backed rider Rickey Gadson, to handle the riding responsibilities.

After just a few runs Gadson recorded an impressive 9.32 at 150 mph. So just how much better does this make the new Busa than the original version in released 1999?

"Back then a good rider would get into the nines," Davidson said of the 1999-era Hayabusa. "A real good rider would be able to get them into the 9.70s."
So in less than a decade the Hayabusa has improved by nearly a full half-second of performance. "It's all in the engineering from the factory," Davidson said. "The engine has 16 titanium valves, larger intake cams, larger exhaust cams, and it's got a two-millimeter additional stroke which gives it more torque. It makes the thing easy to ride. It has so much low end power it gets the bike moving for big riders." At this rate we are on-pace to see stock motorcycles running in the eights within the next few years.

"My prediction is witha Brock's exhaust on the bike, the fuel injection mapped out, and a little tweak here and there, I expect the 2008 Hayabusa to make between 200 and 205 horsepower at the rear wheel.I expect it to run in the 8.80s at nearly 160 mph. That's pretty amazing for a stock motorcycle with a few bolt-ons."

Davidson's predictions were indeed lofty. Following the team's trip to Atco NHRA Pro Stock rider Chip Ellis held the record for quickest and fastest stock street bike with bolt-on components (no engine machining, stock wheelbase) with a 9.04 at 155 mph on Davidson's 06 ZX-14 last season.

Davidson came very close to making his bold 8.80 predictions become reality just a little over a month after the Atco trip. Davidson added one of his exhaust systems, a Power Commander, and a few other aftermarket pieces to the machine and Gadson became the first rider to break the 2008 Hayabusa into the eight-second zone with a stellar 8.991 at 155 mph in Gainesville, Fla. in early November.



"Suzuki knew what they had to do the same way Kawasaki knew what they had to do against the previous version of the Hayabusa," Davidson said. "They are both very fast motorcycles and it's neat to see the factories competing with this Ford-Chevy rivalry."

So how does the 08 Suzuki compare to the 06 and 07 ZX-14?



At the same event where Gadson went 8.99 on the new Hayabusa, NHRA Pro Stock rider Chip Ellis fell just two-hundredths of a second behind, recording a 9.01 on Davidson's 06 Kawasaki ZX-14 with nearly the same modifications that Gadson had on the 08 Busa. Later that evening as conditions improved, Ellis rode the 08 Hayabusa, dubbed "Chronic," to an unprecedented run of 8.91 at 156 mph.



On top of the the slight edge in performance Davidson admits that he's had two years to develop and refine the ZX-14, whereas he's still learning the new Hayabusa.

"After two years worth of experience on the 06 ZX-14, if that thing can go any faster with stock bolt on parts, I sure don't know how," Davidson said. "The new Busa we are still learning and we will get it to go quicker. They are both very quick bikes but The 08 Hayabusa definitely has a slight edge over the 06 and 07 ZX-14."

So the clear-cut winner is the Hayabusa, right? Hold the phone.

Kawasaki was well-aware the new Hayabusa would be a serious threat and announced in late 2007 that the 2008 Kawasaki would be upgraded as well.

Kawasaki didn't revamp it's machine nearly as much as Suzuki did, but they probably didn't need to. Remember the ZX-14 is only entering its third year of development and perhaps only needed minor refinement, compared to the Hayabusa which hadn't been dramatically changed since its inception in 1999.



"Basically the new ZX-14 is the same bike with some fine tuning," Davidson said. "They have updated several components to fix some of the small problems they had. It's a very comfortable bike and it has awesome brakes. My gut feeling is the 08 ZX-14 might make a tad more horsepower on the dyno than the Busa."

The end result of this factory war is two very quick production sportbikes that are now even more so equally matched.

"We're living the good ol' days," Davidson said. "As the factories go at it, we benefit as people who like fast motorcycles. It's an exciting time."

So here's the million dollar question - Which one is the all-around suprierior machine, the 2008 Suzuki Hayabusa or the 2008 Kawasaki ZX-14? Davidson says at this point its too close to call.

"I Thought I had it all figured out, but it's just too close," Davidson said. "Here's the bottom-line, if one bike is racing the other and the riders are similar, whoever makes a mistake is going to get beat."

Adding to the parity is the fact the machines are nearly identical in cost, both with price tags just under $12,000.

Perhaps the only clear-cut winner at this point is the consumer.

And the war rages on.
 
I found this , looks like the Busa is still with the #s the new zx is putting up . This article is from 08 when the busa changed to the gen II.



It has never been more evident that the major motorcycle manufactures are paying close attention to what's going at the drag strip.

Suzuki, creator the 1340 c.c. Hayabusa, and Kawasaki, creator of the 1352 c.c.ZX-14 have become engaged in an epic battle for straight-line supremacy.

In 1999 Suzuki took the two-wheel performance industry by storm by releasing the Hayabusa and overtaking the Honda CBR 1100XX Super Blackbird as the world's fastest production sport bike. The Hayabusa quickly became the late-model motorcycle of choice among drag racers and seemed to antiquate anything previously produced.

The Hayabusa remained largely unchallenged until 2006 when Kawasaki upgraded its legendary Ninja ZX-12 to a beefier ZX-14. After review many critics favored the ZX-14 over the Hayabusa.

Welcome to 2008. Suzuki responded to its competitor by heavily revising and upgrading the Hayabusa. Along with several other improvements the displacement was increased by 40 c.c.s and the compression ratio was increased from 11:1 to 12.5:1.

Just how much better did Suzuki make the new Hayabusa? We asked the first man to put a street bike in the sevens, Brock Davidson of Brock's Performance Products. Davidson was one of the first men to ride the new Hayabusa.



"It's unbelievably fast. There's no comparison between the old Busa and the new Busa. They look like the same bike, they act like the same bike but the new Hayabusa does everything better. It makes more power everywhere," Davidson said.

After getting the machine to ring-up 177 horsepower at the rear wheel on regular high-octane pump gas, Davidson set out to see how quick he could make the new Hayabusa go at the drag strip.

"The numbers on the dyno were very encouraging, especially on pump gas through the stock exhaust," Davidson said. "That's unheard of."

Davidson's team then performed minor modifications to the bike by adding a front end lowering kit and three positioned dog-bone lowering links to the rear to get the bike as low as possible. A Brock's Performance Ultra Lite Clutch Mod was also added to smooth out the machine's power.



"The back torque limiter in the new Busa is the same as the old Busa," Davidson said. "It makes smooth actuation very difficult for drag racing."

Finally Davidson removed the factory break-in oil and added his Alisyn less than zero weight lubricant.

This virtually stock machine was then transported to the fabled Atco Raceway, in Atco, N.J. to assess its quarter-mile capabilities. Davidson drafted 140-pound rising star Richard Gadson, nephew of well-noted Kawasaki factory backed rider Rickey Gadson, to handle the riding responsibilities.

After just a few runs Gadson recorded an impressive 9.32 at 150 mph. So just how much better does this make the new Busa than the original version in released 1999?

"Back then a good rider would get into the nines," Davidson said of the 1999-era Hayabusa. "A real good rider would be able to get them into the 9.70s."
So in less than a decade the Hayabusa has improved by nearly a full half-second of performance. "It's all in the engineering from the factory," Davidson said. "The engine has 16 titanium valves, larger intake cams, larger exhaust cams, and it's got a two-millimeter additional stroke which gives it more torque. It makes the thing easy to ride. It has so much low end power it gets the bike moving for big riders." At this rate we are on-pace to see stock motorcycles running in the eights within the next few years.

"My prediction is witha Brock's exhaust on the bike, the fuel injection mapped out, and a little tweak here and there, I expect the 2008 Hayabusa to make between 200 and 205 horsepower at the rear wheel.I expect it to run in the 8.80s at nearly 160 mph. That's pretty amazing for a stock motorcycle with a few bolt-ons."

Davidson's predictions were indeed lofty. Following the team's trip to Atco NHRA Pro Stock rider Chip Ellis held the record for quickest and fastest stock street bike with bolt-on components (no engine machining, stock wheelbase) with a 9.04 at 155 mph on Davidson's 06 ZX-14 last season.

Davidson came very close to making his bold 8.80 predictions become reality just a little over a month after the Atco trip. Davidson added one of his exhaust systems, a Power Commander, and a few other aftermarket pieces to the machine and Gadson became the first rider to break the 2008 Hayabusa into the eight-second zone with a stellar 8.991 at 155 mph in Gainesville, Fla. in early November.



"Suzuki knew what they had to do the same way Kawasaki knew what they had to do against the previous version of the Hayabusa," Davidson said. "They are both very fast motorcycles and it's neat to see the factories competing with this Ford-Chevy rivalry."

So how does the 08 Suzuki compare to the 06 and 07 ZX-14?



At the same event where Gadson went 8.99 on the new Hayabusa, NHRA Pro Stock rider Chip Ellis fell just two-hundredths of a second behind, recording a 9.01 on Davidson's 06 Kawasaki ZX-14 with nearly the same modifications that Gadson had on the 08 Busa. Later that evening as conditions improved, Ellis rode the 08 Hayabusa, dubbed "Chronic," to an unprecedented run of 8.91 at 156 mph.



On top of the the slight edge in performance Davidson admits that he's had two years to develop and refine the ZX-14, whereas he's still learning the new Hayabusa.

"After two years worth of experience on the 06 ZX-14, if that thing can go any faster with stock bolt on parts, I sure don't know how," Davidson said. "The new Busa we are still learning and we will get it to go quicker. They are both very quick bikes but The 08 Hayabusa definitely has a slight edge over the 06 and 07 ZX-14."

So the clear-cut winner is the Hayabusa, right? Hold the phone.

Kawasaki was well-aware the new Hayabusa would be a serious threat and announced in late 2007 that the 2008 Kawasaki would be upgraded as well.

Kawasaki didn't revamp it's machine nearly as much as Suzuki did, but they probably didn't need to. Remember the ZX-14 is only entering its third year of development and perhaps only needed minor refinement, compared to the Hayabusa which hadn't been dramatically changed since its inception in 1999.



"Basically the new ZX-14 is the same bike with some fine tuning," Davidson said. "They have updated several components to fix some of the small problems they had. It's a very comfortable bike and it has awesome brakes. My gut feeling is the 08 ZX-14 might make a tad more horsepower on the dyno than the Busa."

The end result of this factory war is two very quick production sportbikes that are now even more so equally matched.

"We're living the good ol' days," Davidson said. "As the factories go at it, we benefit as people who like fast motorcycles. It's an exciting time."

So here's the million dollar question - Which one is the all-around suprierior machine, the 2008 Suzuki Hayabusa or the 2008 Kawasaki ZX-14? Davidson says at this point its too close to call.

"I Thought I had it all figured out, but it's just too close," Davidson said. "Here's the bottom-line, if one bike is racing the other and the riders are similar, whoever makes a mistake is going to get beat."

Adding to the parity is the fact the machines are nearly identical in cost, both with price tags just under $12,000.

Perhaps the only clear-cut winner at this point is the consumer.

And the war rages on.
What you posted is very very true .. I remember that like it was last week ..
What is left out is Ricky weighs at 175 pounds , much more than Chip or Richard , ( 35 to 40 pound more ) .. The new ZX14R that was run at Ga by Ricky also weight about 20 to 30 pounds more than the Gen 2 Busa or the Gen 1 zx14 . Both the Gen 1 zx14 and Gen 2 Busa had trick ceramic wheel bearings and 0 weight racing oil.. The new ZX14R had neither of those items ...A few of my fellow racers were there watching Ricky as well as talking to him about the new bike .. Ricky said he left the heavy Roaring Toys front wheel on the bike to help with the wheelys in first gear .. Ricky stated he had problems getting the throttle locked in first gear because of the 125 foot pound of TQ and he felt the heavier front rim would help.. If you watch JTs pass on the bike he had the same problem holding the front end down and getting to full throttle . JT only weighs 119 pounds, if he had a few more passes on the bike he would have gone 8.80s maybe faster. .Most of you guys drag race so you guys know at stock wheel base sometimes extra power doesn't mean faster times if you can't use the extra power.. I think you will see some very very fast numbers when guys start adding wheel base to the bike and can fully use the hole 125 FP of TQ off the line .. End the end i think you will see the bike is 2 tenths quicker that the Gen 2 Busa and Gen 1 ZX14.. Do the math for yourself . 55 pound lighter rider and take another 20+ pounds off by removing the Roaring Toys bling bling parts and add 0 WT oil and ceramic wheel bearing and what would you get ? That could add up to 2 tenths and 4 to 5 MPH in the 1/4 mile ..
 
There's this video posted by Brock himself...

Stock motor Hayabusa. It is running MR9, but it's also stock wheelbase.

Either way, the 14 will probably end up being faster once they put some more R&D in the parts.

I really hope Suzuki is getting something together to run with the new 14. They can go ahead and put me down for one if they do it right.

 
I would expect it to go quicker but its still early.

Still curious to see what the production bikes do in owners hands. Also curious what other changes they made to the engine.


The only reason I like it is because MAYBE it will get Suzuki to wake up and do something we want with the BUSA in OEM trim.

Otherwise, I'll never buy a Kawi anyway and for the racing I do the BUSA is still the better bike... :beerchug:
 
but its still showing the comparable mods on a stock gen II busa compared to the NEW ZX14with 100cc's more motor. Its not that much better. I do understand wieght is a big factor when drag racing , thats why jockeys are all small guys !:laugh:




What you posted is very very true .. I remember that like it was last week ..
What is left out is Ricky weighs at 175 pounds , much more than Chip or Richard , ( 35 to 40 pound more ) .. The new ZX14R that was run at Ga by Ricky also weight about 20 to 30 pounds more than the Gen 2 Busa or the Gen 1 zx14 . Both the Gen 1 zx14 and Gen 2 Busa had trick ceramic wheel bearings and 0 weight racing oil.. The new ZX14R had neither of those items ...A few of my fellow racers were there watching Ricky as well as talking to him about the new bike .. Ricky said he left the heavy Roaring Toys front wheel on the bike to help with the wheelys in first gear .. Ricky stated he had problems getting the throttle locked in first gear because of the 125 foot pound of TQ and he felt the heavier front rim would help.. If you watch JTs pass on the bike he had the same problem holding the front end down and getting to full throttle . JT only weighs 119 pounds, if he had a few more passes on the bike he would have gone 8.80s maybe faster. .Most of you guys drag race so you guys know at stock wheel base sometimes extra power doesn't mean faster times if you can't use the extra power.. I think you will see some very very fast numbers when guys start adding wheel base to the bike and can fully use the hole 125 FP of TQ off the line .. End the end i think you will see the bike is 2 tenths quicker that the Gen 2 Busa and Gen 1 ZX14.. Do the math for yourself . 55 pound lighter rider and take another 20+ pounds off by removing the Roaring Toys bling bling parts and add 0 WT oil and ceramic wheel bearing and what would you get ? That could add up to 2 tenths and 4 to 5 MPH in the 1/4 mile ..
 
Stock ZX14R Vs stock Gen 2 Busa same day same dyno ..

dynozx14rVsbusa.jpg
 
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