Just purchased a busa

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Hope it's OK to ask in here, planning to get some aftermarket silencers, ones that use the 3 bolt pattern for now until I can afford better ones, any advice/reccomendations? If I run them with baffles I wouldn't imagine I'd need to adjust fuelling
As far as I'm aware slip-on cans and an air filter don't require AF ratio tinkering. But I'm sure one of the other chaps here with more experience can verify if my understanding is correct.

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Don't bother with bolt-on mufflers unless you run accross a set dirt cheap, as they are expensive, instead, look for slip-ons, they do just that, slip on and clamp down to each exit tube at the header.
You'll have Much more mufflers to choose from, including used, and at lower prices.
And as said, no tuning needed.
Putting the brakes back stock?
Lol...don't do that, the stock Gen1 brakes are wooden, garbage, and you definately want the radial mc and calipers that the previous owner put on...which were not cheap either...they are a huge score on a used bike.
For 2nd gear...beat on it, do some hard launches in 1st and high rpm shifts to 2nd. If there is no obvious slipping to 2nd, your good.
You could buy a 100k mile beater and it never slip...or a 1k mile trailer queen...with 2nd slipping badly.
It was luck of the draw to which individual bike had 2nd gear problems, and can only be described as the perfect storm of parts at the factory, one part at one end of spec, or out of spec, mating with another part close to or out of spec.
Not a cheap fix, as the engine has to come out and the case split to get the transmission out, then about $600+ now days to get the gears undercut.
But, after that, the transmission is bullet-proof, and will never have issues again, so worst case scenario, and with a bike that is great otherwise, it is well worth doing...but I wouldn't lose any sleep worrying about it either.
If you find the Busa comfortable to sit on, you will love riding it, and it's not just a straight-line bike either, as you can easily drag knees on it...to which the slip-on mufflers are a great idea, not in just sound and maybe 2hp, lol, but you Can actually feel the weight loss of factory mufflers being gone when flicking the bike side to side through twisty roads.
Carbon fiber mufflers are nice too, as they put the majority of the heat out of the end of the muffler, vs it radiating through the muffler sleeve and putting off even more heat around you.
You can have the bike hot and actually grab and hold a carbon fiber muffler, yes it's hot, but not going to burn you unless you hang on to it for a while, vs aluminum, stainless-steel, or titanium...which of course will give you a 3rd-degree burn in seconds.
The Busa has an endless part and mod list too, and does everything well.
You can make it whatever that you want it to be, and it is already a knee-dragging, straight-line, touring rocket as it is, including being very easy to ride slow, so much so that you can cruise it around all day, think it's pretty fast, but have no idea just how quick it is until you twist it hard...and it'll get up and go.
The Blackbird is a great bike...but the Busa will eat it's lunch, lol

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Thanks guys, i had toyed with putting the brakes back to standard at first but the looks have grown on me
Welcome along to Busa Land!
Actually, the brakes require a further upgrade . . it needs a radial master cylinder and that will improve it again, I have a gen 1 with stock 6 pot Tokicos and fitting a Nissin radial m/cyl off a GSXR1000K9 improved the braking power and lever feel outta sight! And it was cheap!
The Brembo calipers you have are a bonus, well done!
You're gonna love spending money on your newly acquired Busa lol...

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Welcome along to Busa Land!
Actually, the brakes require a further upgrade . . it needs a radial master cylinder and that will improve it again, I have a gen 1 with stock 6 pot Tokicos and fitting a Nissin radial m/cyl off a GSXR1000K9 improved the braking power and lever feel outta sight! And it was cheap!
The Brembo calipers you have are a bonus, well done!
You're gonna love spending money on your newly acquired Busa lol...

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I think it already has a radial mc on it
(I know factory is not)

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Don't bother with bolt-on mufflers unless you run accross a set dirt cheap, as they are expensive, instead, look for slip-ons, they do just that, slip on and clamp down to each exit tube at the header.
You'll have Much more mufflers to choose from, including used, and at lower prices.
And as said, no tuning needed.
Putting the brakes back stock?
Lol...don't do that, the stock Gen1 brakes are wooden, garbage, and you definately want the radial mc and calipers that the previous owner put on...which were not cheap either...they are a huge score on a used bike.
For 2nd gear...beat on it, do some hard launches in 1st and high rpm shifts to 2nd. If there is no obvious slipping to 2nd, your good.
You could buy a 100k mile beater and it never slip...or a 1k mile trailer queen...with 2nd slipping badly.
It was luck of the draw to which individual bike had 2nd gear problems, and can only be described as the perfect storm of parts at the factory, one part at one end of spec, or out of spec, mating with another part close to or out of spec.
Not a cheap fix, as the engine has to come out and the case split to get the transmission out, then about $600+ now days to get the gears undercut.
But, after that, the transmission is bullet-proof, and will never have issues again, so worst case scenario, and with a bike that is great otherwise, it is well worth doing...but I wouldn't lose any sleep worrying about it either.
If you find the Busa comfortable to sit on, you will love riding it, and it's not just a straight-line bike either, as you can easily drag knees on it...to which the slip-on mufflers are a great idea, not in just sound and maybe 2hp, lol, but you Can actually feel the weight loss of factory mufflers being gone when flicking the bike side to side through twisty roads.
Carbon fiber mufflers are nice too, as they put the majority of the heat out of the end of the muffler, vs it radiating through the muffler sleeve and putting off even more heat around you.
You can have the bike hot and actually grab and hold a carbon fiber muffler, yes it's hot, but not going to burn you unless you hang on to it for a while, vs aluminum, stainless-steel, or titanium...which of course will give you a 3rd-degree burn in seconds.
The Busa has an endless part and mod list too, and does everything well.
You can make it whatever that you want it to be, and it is already a knee-dragging, straight-line, touring rocket as it is, including being very easy to ride slow, so much so that you can cruise it around all day, think it's pretty fast, but have no idea just how quick it is until you twist it hard...and it'll get up and go.
The Blackbird is a great bike...but the Busa will eat it's lunch, lol

welcome to the org
Will I have to cut the stock system to fit slip ons? I can get them new relatively cheap

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Comes with warranty as its from a dealer, anything to look out for in the warranty period?
First, I hope you won't have any cause to use the warranty. Second, I've heard Kawasaki often tries to deny warranty claims so hopefully Suzuki is better. Four bikes now and I've never paid for extra warranty and gladly never needed it.

I will probably get them if the vibes bother me
I have just a bar end mirror bung on the end of each handlebar on my Gen2. One of them even has a mirror clamped to it. The other just looks cool. They weigh about nothing and I don't feel any more vibes with them than the stock bar end weights. Same thing with my ZX-14. The stock bar end weights are good protection for the bar ends if you drop the bike but IMO all they do other than that is make the bars look wider and weigh a lot. If the expandable mounting plug could be cut off of these, I'd use them. The plug might not even be attached, it probably fastens to the outer disk with the screw when installed in a hollow bar. Same size screw, that will bolt right on a Hayabusa handlebar.


My Gen2 vibrates a bit at lower rpm. I have seen the windscreen vibrate revving the engine in neutral. I can't remember exactly where, probably 2000ish where I almost never operate the engine anyway. Otherwise, it feels smooth as silk.

Picked up a dirt cheap set of bolt on scorpions for now
Awesome! If you're running the stock pipes, you're going to love the sound of the Scorpions. Other than a great deal on slipons, I only recommend a full system. Greater weight loss and power increase but you should use some kind of fuel management system or flash. Also, the installation is more complex. If you decide to go with a full system one day, I'd suggest a 4-2-1 and then you also have much better access to the drive chain for maintenance.

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Due to a holiday it's not being delivered until next Saturday, so have to spend a whole week waiting. The dealer is a small dealership so not official suzuki, but they do offer the warranty which I can use at my local garage who thankfully is a suzuki nut, mainly oil cooled suzukis which I've had bloody loads of, but also suzukis in general. I cannot wait to get on it and get it in 3rd and wind the throttle on. Traditionally my son and wife follow me for my first ride on a bike and my son is super excited to see how fast it is!

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I have just a bar end mirror bung on the end of each handlebar on my Gen2. One of them even has a mirror clamped to it. The other just looks cool. They weigh about nothing and I don't feel any more vibes with them than the stock bar end weights. Same thing with my ZX-14. The stock bar end weights are good protection for the bar ends if you drop the bike but IMO all they do other than that is make the bars look wider and weigh a lot. If the expandable mounting plug could be cut off of these, I'd use them. The plug might not even be attached, it probably fastens to the outer disk with the screw when installed in a hollow bar. Same size screw, that will bolt right on a Hayabusa handlebar.

My Gen2 vibrates a bit at lower rpm. I have seen the windscreen vibrate revving the engine in neutral. I can't remember exactly where, probably 2000ish where I almost never operate the engine anyway. Otherwise, it feels smooth as silk.
My bike has a handlebar high frequency vibration at around 4,000 rpm, enough to put my hand to sleep after a while.....

I've found all my Suzuki bikes have had a similar vibration at different rev ranges.......

I've ridden other brands which had zero vibrations...

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Welcome. Bike looks tidy. Of the Gen-1’s, apart from the copper 99 the 02-07’s are my pick.

I’ve had a few Gen-1’s including a brand new 2004 like yours.

You obviously are aware of the second gear. What I will say is it’s not 100% predictable, or related to being loved or abused. My much loved owned from new 04 failed at 45k, I have an a similar age bike here that has had a real hard life, years of abuse, and is fine at 85k.

The “Toxic 6-plop” Gen-1 brakes were always a downside to the Gen-1, I have a couple of Suzuki’s with 6’s and even with lines, pads, fluid etc they are never a threat to a bike with 10 year old badly maintained radials. Suzuki should have done it sooner like Kawasaki. Even on models Suzuki didn’t fit radials to they went back to a good 4 pot caliper.

I’ve had a few Gen-1’s with cans. I like the look, sound and weight, but they do bugger all for performance compared to a full system.

Much as I do prefer the later 1340 bikes, I do have a lot of great memories from the time with my 04.

An old pic of mine.

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