Jon Hammar

Golden, you may have not heard the whole story. He was instructed by U.S. Customs officers on proper procedure and he followed it. He is being charged with having a Mexican military rifle which is illegal. It was an antique 410.

Let's break down what you wrote,

He was instructed by US customs on what's legal here, they were wrong on mexico info if actually given to him( his responsibility to research it, they are US customs officers and gave him US rules, he was going into another country. The gun he had could be brought into the us legally, IF he had all proper procedures taken care of prior to entering or exiting..

The laws of mexico are instantly available with a search( nothing below says it's legal):

Entering Mexico with a firearm, or even a single round of ammunition, carries a penalty of up to five years in prison, even if the firearm or ammunition is taken into the country unintentionally.

If you have ever shipped anything outside the us through say usps,fedex or ups.. If you have the slightest inclination it may be prohibited, what is the first thing you do?

If you have been on a cruise outside the us or taken airplane flight somewhere in or out the usa, and wanted to take a gun. what did you do about the gun?

See what I'm saying?

Before we attack another humans thought's for speaking up. We should look at our own thoughts of what we would do prior to making a decision or suffer the consequences for lack of thinking....


I'm done with it, best of luck to him and all of you. Take Care Merry Christmas and Happy New Year... PM ME if you need me.. Like they say on Shark Tank, I'm Out...God Bless All...
 
i read that he got nailed because his gun was cut off and one inch shorter than their laws allow. thats where they got him, they could have took it and sent him home but they didnt, they chose to arrest him. Sorrry but these days you want to go into that country, best of luck to ya and don't expect people to come running when you get screwed.
Went to Cancun a few years ago. Don't believe I'll be going back. Not just because of this incident but because of kidnappings, etc.
 
Let's break down what you wrote,

He was instructed by US customs on what's legal here, they were wrong on mexico info if actually given to him( his responsibility to research it, they are US customs officers and gave him US rules, he was going into another country. The gun he had could be brought into the us legally, IF he had all proper procedures taken care of prior to entering or exiting..

The laws of mexico are instantly available with a search( nothing below says it's legal):

Entering Mexico with a firearm, or even a single round of ammunition, carries a penalty of up to five years in prison, even if the firearm or ammunition is taken into the country unintentionally.

If you have ever shipped anything outside the us through say usps,fedex or ups.. If you have the slightest inclination it may be prohibited, what is the first thing you do?

If you have been on a cruise outside the us or taken airplane flight somewhere in or out the usa, and wanted to take a gun. what did you do about the gun?

See what I'm saying?

Before we attack another humans thought's for speaking up. We should look at our own thoughts of what we would do prior to making a decision or suffer the consequences for lack of thinking....


I'm done with it, best of luck to him and all of you. Take Care Merry Christmas and Happy New Year... PM ME if you need me.. Like they say on Shark Tank, I'm Out...God Bless All...


My reply was not an attack at you:beerchug:
 
The State Department needs to get their head out of their azz (but, after Benghazi, i'm not surprised) and have him repremanded to US Custody. Otherwise, Fort Bliss is what, 15 miles form the border?

I know firsthand what the State department does to lawful or unlawful prisoners, a good friend of mine know as well. We were jailed in various countries for various trumped up charges or no charge at all as was in my case. The Diplomatic protocol barely allows for a visit for welfare assessment and not much else besides a document that authorizes release of your condition/situation and that is about it. When imprisoned in a foreign country, one is allowed to be processed through the legal system of said country. In Mexico, the law does not allow someone to be presumed innocent until found guilty. It is presume guilty until proven innocent for the most part. You are detained/apprehended/arrested and jailed until your stand comes up in front of the magistrate or until like myself your are escorted by armed convoy, with a purported martial arts expert sitting next to you while you laugh and hand him cigarettes that he has never seen before, to the airport and watched closely until your flight departs.

Don't turn this into a soapbox for bigots and bias opinion. Sorry for the loss of the family member in the motor vehicle accident. It was an accident and not committed with malice. The fact that the perpetrator, driver was an undocumented worker from Mexico makes no difference. Riders get killed all the time at the hands of automobile drivers due to reasons unnecessary to list. Calling him an Illegal Mexican implies that he was illegally a Mexican in whatever form that presents, not that he was working in this country without a TAX ID or a State ID. And let's not beat those politics more than they already have been beaten on this board.

Furthermore, no American citizen detained due to criminal charges by a foreign government outside of wartime deserves armed incursion by the United States or act of war to grant his release. The only folks that get that priviledge in Mexico are the Drug Tycoons working with the CIA to continue to de-stabilize Mexico for the ongoing Manifest destiny being carried out by American interests that is status quo.

Go decorate your tree or interact with your kids instead of letting them build superthumbs and superguts on the PS3 or Xbox in the family room. Seriously, move along.
 
Um he took a gun across the border into Meheeco?!?
Ought to be jailed for being STOOPID!

Lucky they didn't find him cut into pieces in a bucket.
 
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