Going fast / the human element

Let's take this thread a different direction: "Object fixation."

Our friend here (he was OK) had 20-30 miles of twisties behind him at this point. A good rider by all accounts. So what happened?

"I went in hot and the radius of the corner surprised me. I didn't feel comfortable leaning over any further and I got fixated on a point in the guard rail. I straightened the machine up in order to apply the brakes. Time ran out. And I rode straight into the point I was staring at."

Minus the crash part, I'm pretty sure that we've all fixated at one time or another. I now conciously attempt to keep my eyes moving and look where I want to go.

What works for you?

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Let's take this thread a different direction: "Object fixation."

Our friend here (he was OK) had 20-30 miles of twisties behind him at this point. A good rider by all accounts. So what happened?

"I went in hot and the radius of the corner surprised me. I didn't feel comfortable leaning over any further and I got fixated on a point in the guard rail. I straightened the machine up in order to apply the brakes. Time ran out. And I rode straight into the point I was staring at."

Minus the crash part, I'm pretty sure that we've all fixated at one time or another. I now conciously attempt to keep my eyes moving and look where I want to go.

What works for you?

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When I taught the motorcycle courses, part of my lesson was avoiding visual fixation.....

I was taught to look ahead on the road/track and focus on the where the bike was going rather than what was around us...in the case of my personal training it was on the Cali Superbike course and then the FAST Cdn superbike course....and was other riders....

Even now when I ride the back roads, my eyes are constantly scanning ahead looking not only on the road but for anything approaching the road by the way of animals or vehicles......

Heads up riding and not being complacent has been my go to for years....

...............................and during those days where I'm not "feeling it" the bike stays in the garage.....
 
When I taught the motorcycle courses, part of my lesson was avoiding visual fixation.....

I was taught to look ahead on the road/track and focus on the where the bike was going rather than what was around us...in the case of my personal training it was on the Cali Superbike course and then the FAST Cdn superbike course....and was other riders....

Even now when I ride the back roads, my eyes are constantly scanning ahead looking not only on the road but for anything approaching the road by the way of animals or vehicles......

Heads up riding and not being complacent has been my go to for years....

...............................and during those days where I'm not "feeling it" the bike stays in the garage.....

Yep
All true...especially that last sentence...if it doesn't feel right, don't go out...I've learned that the hard way...
 
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Not everybody has the talent to put a motorcycle with upwards of a couple hundred ponies through the paces in the curves *
Even a bike far less hp can be handful going through the corners.....

All the "nannies" make it easier but there will always be the human element....

I find there are days where I want to go fast and there are days when I am happy just loafing along.....

The days where I am loafing along far outweighs the days where I want to go fast though........
 
Even a bike far less hp can be handful going through the corners.....

All the "nannies" make it easier but there will always be the human element....

I find there are days where I want to go fast and there are days when I am happy just loafing along.....

The days where I am loafing along far outweighs the days where I want to go fast though........

Strangely so...I think it's the old guy element..
I have become the same way.
I rode the '18 Gsxr1kR the night before last, about 30 miles.
I did rip it good once, and the old hoon in me quickly woke up, and I railed a few good curves, then, I slowed way down again.
The great thing where I live is that I have fantastic roads with little to no traffic, perfect for knee dragging and general hooliganism...but also so much fun to creep at 15-35mph, and just enjoy the sceneray, woods, mountains, hills, fields, big farms, wide roads, narrow roads, name the critters or farm animals and they are everywhere.
I've ridden my Honda CRF230L dual-sport around a little bit lately too, and it's just right for farting around on...but I still prefer the big bikes, simply because I can go as slow on them, but still get that acceleration rush whenever the mood strikes.
The Goldwing is of course a nice lazy ride too, I can turn on the radio and just crawl along, and fortunately it has enough get up and go to still be fun, and of course it now handles way better than stock.
I'm going to sell or trade the CRF, as my stepson wants an old truck, and he'll get his learner's permit in a few weeks.
He learned to ride it, but now wants to drive, no suprise there.
I'll be keeping the Goldwing and Gsxr1k's indefinately, and my next bike was to be a TL1kR, and I still may finally pick one up, but I seriously belive at this point, that my next bike will be a Buell HammerHead.
That'll give me my GW cruiser, 2up, 6-cylinder.
The 4 cylinder Gsxr1k's, '03 and '18.
'03 with dirtbike bars, '18 with stock bars.
And, a big V-twin superbike...American made...with no nannies.
Those 4 (and maybe another dual-sport in future if better off-road riding opens up again) will be to me the best variety for my types of riding.
My kids are growing up fast, and I am blessed to be able to take them to school on my way to work, and pick them up several days as well, but, as that slows down, summers, holidays, no school, I ride my bikes to work. Only a 24+ mile commute, with no traffic, but enjoyable.
So it is nice to be so fortunate to be able to own 3 different bikes, and store, wrench, and ride my friend's '18 like it were my own.
I like riding a different one each day, or if I'm home, I'll ride the 1k usually anywhere from 10-50 miles, on my common loops, then get right on the GW and ride as far as time allows.
Now I just need a TL or a HammerHead to finish the basic variety.
And my friend with the '18 will eventually buy more bikes too.
He misses a deal on occasion...but I usually have to talk him out of something else...except for Groms...he says he is buying 2, so he can get someone to ride them with him...sold!
Lets go! lol
I'm ssriously looking forward to that.
 
Moving into a bit of the mechanical part of the equation. What profile windshield is preferred at high speed for the least amount of helmet buffeting? Stock or double bubble?
 
Depends on too many variables, like your height, shoulder width, torso heigh and how you tuck on the tank.
I'm 5'10", 32"-33" inseam, and a 70 or 72" reach(hafta check, can't remember) and a sitting up, stock sheilds direct the air right into my upper chest, and work well for me, even at top speed.
Double-bubbles bobble my head around, and I personally don't like them, but that's just me.
I think that you will have to try both to see what works best for you.
The stock shield should be fine for high speeds, and a double-bubble may or may not be better.
 
Your helmet is a factor in the type of windshield as well.....

My HJC has a large vent on top which catches the wind and causes turbulence at speed......and it doesn't matter which windshield I have on-it still causes turbulence....

I have a Puig double on right now which allows me to get into a low tuck......when I slow down, I pop up to create drag to help slow faster....
 
I agree with everyone. I never roll down a road fast without riding it to check for dangers. Avoid road entrances and driveways. I use to the the ‘06 up every time I cranked her. I haven’t had the ‘22 up yet. Might never. Good tires is a must. Even then things can happen. I’ve never topped one out and didn’t think it was as smooth a bike as it was at 35. Safe travels, awesome bikes.
 
Moving into a bit of the mechanical part of the equation. What profile windshield is preferred at high speed for the least amount of helmet buffeting? Stock or double bubble?
When I bought my Busa in 2009, I was in good shape, still raced bicycles competitively. I could tuck in, helmet chin on the tank full view through the screen, and it was a perfect fit with the stock screen. It was just real noisy down there.

Today, not that fit, 15 years later, not that flexible, it is no longer that easy, to tuck that low with a full view through the screen.

A lot of wind tunnel design was done with the Busa, I would think a different screen will cause turbulence somewhere along the airflow path?
 
I have a couple of local spots where I have run Busa’s, H2, my GSXR etc out in top.

Of note:

# I ALWAYS do a sighting run first then double back. I never do a full on run first time through.

# I find what I wear makes a huge difference. Leathers or tightish jeans, a snug jacket, never loose clothes or textile jackets. Even a loose sleeve, collar or trouser leg is bloody awful at high speed.

# Twice I’ve had tyres that lost psi doing flat out max speed runs. A felt nothing at high speed but backing off the bike was a real drama to steer, low psi. Both times it was sorted by changing the valves to new / different make ones.
 
When I know I'll be going fast, I tighten the steering damper by a click or two. Sometimes the forks, too.

And, as was already pointed out, thick and tight fitting leather pants and jacket, race boots, and race gloves. At speed a bug hits like a bullet, and a chip will surely break through the skin. I dress like a racer even when putting at 30 mph when going to drop a letter at the post office 1/2 mile from home.
 
When I know I'll be going fast, I tighten the steering damper by a click or two. Sometimes the forks, too.

And, as was already pointed out, thick and tight fitting leather pants and jacket, race boots, and race gloves. At speed a bug hits like a bullet, and a chip will surely break through the skin. I dress like a racer even when putting at 30 mph when going to drop a letter at the post office 1/2 mile from home.

To each their own, but remember, if you tighten/firm the suspension, And you are hitting the same bumps...only Alot faster...you can upset the bike really fast.

And me too, always full gear, even going a mile down the road at low speed test riding a bike, or going to put gas in one.
 
To each their own, but remember, if you tighten/firm the suspension, And you are hitting the same bumps...only Alot faster...you can upset the bike really fast.

And me too, always full gear, even going a mile down the road at low speed test riding a bike, or going to put gas in one.
Agree. The forks is mostly when there is a good deal of braking (twisty roads with some stretches) on good surface.
 
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