God loves dead Soldiers... ??

busa-josh

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I'll start this by saying that I'm not in the best mental state at the moment.... by that I mean... a few drinks... Ive been out to dinner and a movie tonight with my lovely wife and with that comes some partaking.

Those of you who have served know how hard it is to be thanked or praised for your service. We know how hard it is to feel special or different than other people. Most of us feel like this is just our path in life. Like those who are police officers, computer programmers, car salesmen, coal miners, etc. We feel that this is where we belond based on some ability to deal with situations that others might find impossible. I consistently remind myself that if the United States were attacked on our own soil it would not be the military that would save our nation but the brave citizens that would take up arms against an enemy. Therefore I find it incredibly difficult to take thanks, special treatment or any activity that sets me apart specifically. This thread is not in anyway designed for attention or recognition. I know what my buddies and I have accomplished. I know what we have seen and that is because we are meant to have seen it. All generations since the beginning of time have seen tough times. I am glad that I am fit and healthy enough to meet the challenges but also believe that it is a higher power (if you will) that has given me these qualities and not I that should be credited.

Today I faced what many of my predecessors have faced. Anti-Soldier protests. I saw these protests while in Kuwait in 2003 on the eve on invasion. I sat in a chow hall tent watching the news which showed US citizens burning flags and shouting anti-war protests. It hurt deep within my soul to see this. However, I washed the feelings and thoughts away with minimal trouble.

My first tour through the desert was spent in Fallujah, Iraq and cause quite a bit of drinking when I returned stateside. That year shaped me into someone I didn't ever picture or want to be. My second trip lead me to Baghdad and this mission drew on the skills I had honed during my first deployment. I was a leader of troops and used everything I had to complete my mission and bring my folks home. I hoped and prayed none of them would suffer the fate of some of those I had been with, fought with, and ultimately carried off the field during my first trip. My third came after less time at home than I had spent on the field. I finally started to feel the years slipping by. At this time- almost 27 years old and starting to wonder where this 'youth' went... I sat in an tactical office for a better portion of the year... trying to figure out how I could effect the battlefield in a positive manner. Studying, reading and teaching became my goals. Limited on my ability to physically attack the enemy I was forced to develop new techniques to make myself feel useful.

I have been home a week. Over 43 months spent in the limbo of organized chaos during the last 6 years. Less than 24 hours after my arrival a man of the service attacked other Soldiers at Ft. Hood. As the news spread of the victims I saw the names of the enlisted members. Half of the victims were in their first few years of time in the military. I saw these Soldiers as my own. I pictured myself, an idealist young man... joining the Army looking to make a difference back in 2000. I pictured myself in their shoes. It broke my heart. But alas, this is part of life unfortunately. We all deal with things we shouldn't have to. It has been this way since history began.

As I rode my bike off of Ft Hood today I passed by a McDonald's. In the grass on the corner of the street were protesters. They carried signs that read "God Loves Dead Soldiers" & "God Pulled The Trigger"... I have never been more angry or more ready to knock in teeth during my years. The protesters were surrounded by police; for protection I assume. All the thoughts and possibilities of retaliation raged through my mind as I tried to find a calm release.

Tonight I am ready to lay in bed, but I cannot. My anger is raging and my heart is pounding. On this Veterans Day eve the idealist in my does not come out. To me, tomorrow is just another day. What does come out is the feeling of gratitude to those who are still around that experienced this type of hatred during previous wars. I could never imagine fully or understand completely what our Vietnam Vets went through upon return home. No doubt we have seen the same troubles and fought to come to terms with what we have done. I have been blessed to come home and be greeted by citizens with open arms. To those of you who were not greeted with open arms (either members here or have friends and family of which this applies) I thank you for what you went through. I recognize, now more than ever, your struggles and your heartache. Idealism doesn't create an answer for our pains but the feeling of acceptance and understanding from strangers sure does help.

For those that were standing on that street corner today. I will not say that something about the freedom of speech kept you safe from me. I am not that righteous (it was the fear of prison.. HAH). I will say that Charles Darwin had a good theory... you should read it. While it might not say it verbatim- there might be something about protesting outside a military post against a bunch of ticked off and war hardened Soldiers.

So with that, Ill say goodnight. I am glad to have a place to vent a little and maybe this will help me sleep. My thoughts are not relaxed yet.... but maybe in time... it has been years... what's another night... just glad to have some people to type to (that have nothing better to do than read my ungrammatical dribble). Goodnight.
 
Those of you who have served know how hard it is to be thanked or praised for your service. We know how hard it is to feel special or different than other people. Most of us feel like this is just our path in life. Like those who are police officers, computer programmers, car salesmen, coal miners, etc. We feel that this is where we belond based on some ability to deal with situations that others might find impossible.

Didn't know if I was the only way that feels like this or if its something that alot of soldiers feel. Glad to know that I'm not the only one in this boat.
 
just remember... god handed out brains... he pulled the trigger on them first lol
 
Words cannot convey what I feel right now.
Thank you and every other member of the armed services for your sacrifice and service.
 
Thank you Josh. Like GA boi and yourself, I thought I was alone with those feelings.
Thank you and all who have or are serving. Without you we would be speaking German or Japanese about now.

Sleep well warrior, we have your back tonight
 
Got a ride going on this weekend. Some org members and a few strays. We could head north and meet . It would be an honor to buy you and your wife lunch.
 
Busa-Josh please know that there are many,many,many more people in this world and on the site that honor you,your fellow service men and women and the sacrifices all of you have made and continue to make than their are like these protestors.

I've had some dealings with these protestors and without going into it too deeply I stood with hundreds of fellow motorcyclists to ensure the family was shielded from them. Know what I received from my employer? Time off for riding my motorcycle to this funeral? Crazy world we live in brother only hope you know in your heart what's right and what's wrong and continue to stay the course. Sleep well my brother. Wardie
 
Sucks to hear this. I have been right there with you and I admire your restraint with these F-Tards. Hang in there bro it gets easier over time. :beerchug:
 
Josh,

I know exactly how you feel. Even though we willingly served our country to give them that right I want to hurt them in ways they don't understand. They are the reason I joined with the Patriot Guard, and the reason I try to avoid any form of protests. I am sorry you had to deal with this, but for being the bigger man (even if it was only due to the threat of prison) you won that battle.

I will tell you a quick experience I had Sunday. I went with the Patriot Guard to a Veterans service at a local church. This church took a Sunday to just say thank you to all the local Veterans. It was amazing. While they were honoring some of the Veterans from 1960 and before a gentleman came up. One of the members of the greatest generation. He spoke for just a moment, but he couldn't finish even saying thank you before he broke down and cried. The room was in tears, thankful for this mans service.

After the service myself and one of the PGR state captains went up and shook his hand, and a line formed. The poor guy was shaking hands and getting hugs for almost an hour.

So remember that although those jack holes are out there doing stupid things, they are out numbered, even if it is a silent majority.
 
You wouldn't have to worry about those protesters in my town. They would be in violation of Disorderly Conduct a city ordinance we have to deal with that sort of crap. They would be in jail they could protest in there. Thanks for your service don't let the sheeple get to you.
 
Welcome back. As for the "Thanks for your service" that I offer you and others working in the armed services, it is in part because I know you have, or will at some time, encounter some anti-military sentiment that is largely misguided.

I think most of the time, these protests are misguided because individual soldiers are not the ones who make the decision to go to war. Individual soldiers are serving for a multitude of reasons...sense of duty, carrying on a family tradition, steady paycheck, a means to lift themselves out of an impoverished lifestyle, government retirement and healthcare benefits, educational opportunities, the opportunity to see the world....the reasons are as unique as the individuals who apply for the job.

Protests should be directed at political leaders...not individual soldiers. It's unfortunate you came home to see a lot of the same religous fanaticism that led to your deployment to begin with...just dressed in a different cloth.

Again welcome back. In any group statistically half will be below average intelligence. Ten percent will find themselves among the absolute bottom. The amount of noise a person makes is often inversely proportional to their intelligence level (ever wonder why my posts often tend to be so long?). Ultimately we end up with a small minority of functional idiots we'd all do best to ignore.
 
I'm a 15-year veteran police officer and a 7-year Army veteran. You're right, I'm no more special than any other average Joe out there. I was blessed with an internal switch where I'm able to shut off my emotions while maintaining compassion for my fellow man. I feel I was created by God to do what I do.

Next time you see a**holes holding up signs like that, you have my permission to stop and kick their teeth in.
 
Josh - Welcome home. We thank you for your service & for keeping me & my family safe. I know you say you don't deserve thanks, but you & all the others over the years & those in the future do. It would be an honor to ride w/ you sometime if you ever head south to Austin.:beerchug:


The ironic thing is those people are allowed to protest only BECAUSE of the sacrifices of thousands of American Soldiers.:firing:
 
those people disturb me as well. i was in missouri when we had a funeral for a soldier in town. i guess we had some protesters on the street in route to his funeral line.

i dont really care who it is a persons death should not be protested, your not gonna teach them a lesson, its ridiculous. i dont understand how cops keep an action like that civil and out of harms way. those people disgust me.

good going keeping your cool. thanks for all service and i would like to apologize for the fellow man lacking common sense and judgement.
 
Thank you for what you do:bowdown: and know most are grateful for your sacrifices for our Country and do not let the minority idiots get you down.

I cannot believe there would be protesters near the base with signs like that, and I am sure the police are there for their protection. They should be escorted to Killeen Airport with oneway tickets to somewhere else.
 
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