Fairness for our Military & Social

Charlesbusa

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I thought this was some good info. to pass along, especially if you vote. The rest of this post was an e-mail forwarded to me. It just reinforces how corrupt our political system is!!


Qutoe;

Love him or loath him, he nailed this one right on the head.............

By Rush Limbaugh:

I think the vast differences in compensation between victims of the September 11 casualty and those who die serving the country in Uniform are profound. No one is really talking about it either, because you just don't criticize anything having to do with September 11.  


Well, I just can't let the numbers pass by because it says something really disturbing about the entitlement mentality of this country.  If you lost a
family member in the September 11 attack, you're going to get an average of $1,185,000.  The range is a
minimum guarantee of $250,000, all the way up to $4.7 million.

If you are a surviving family member of an American soldier killed in action, the first check you get is a $6,000 direct death benefit, half of which is taxable.
Next, you get $1,750 for burial costs.  If you are the surviving spouse, you get $833 a month until you remarry.  And there's a payment of $211 per month for each child under 18.  When the child hits 18, those payments come to a screeching halt.
 
Keep in mind that some of the people who are getting an average of $1.185 million up to $4.7 million are complaining that it's not enough. Their deaths were
tragic, but for most, they were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. Soldiers put themselves in harms way FOR ALL OF US, and they and their families know the dangers.

We also learned over the weekend that some of the victims from the Oklahoma City bombing have started an organization asking for the same deal that the September 11 families are getting.  In addition to that, some of the families of those bombed in the
embassies are now asking for compensation as well.

You see where this is going, don't you?  Folks, this is part and parcel of over 50 years of entitlement politics in this country.  It's just really sad.  Every time a pay raise comes up for the military, they usually receive next to nothing of a raise.  Now the green machine is in combat in the Middle East while their families have to survive on food stamps and live in low-rent housing.  Make sense?

However, our own U.S. Congress just voted themselves a raise, and many of you don't know that they only have
to be in Congress one time to receive a pension that is more than $15,000 per month, and most are now equal to being millionaires plus.  They also do not receive Social Security on retirement because they didn't have to pay into the system.
 
If some of the military people stay in for 20 years and get out as an E-7, you may receive a pension of $1,000 per month, and the very people who placed you in harm's way receive a pension of $15,000 per month.  I would like to see our elected officials pick up a weapon and join ranks before they start cutting out benefits and lowering pay for our sons and daughters who are now fighting.

"When do we finally do something about this?"  If this doesn't seem fair to you, it is time to forward this to as many people as you can. If your interested there
is more.......................

This must be a campaign issue in 2004.  Keep it going.  SOCIAL SECURITY: (This is worth the read. It's short
and to the point.)
 
Perhaps we are asking the wrong questions during election years.  Our Senators and Congressmen do not pay into Social Security.  Many years ago they voted in their own benefit plan.  In more recent years, no congressperson has felt the need to change it.  For all practical purposes their plan works like this:
 
When they retire, they continue to draw the same pay until they die, except it may increase from time to time for cost of living adjustments. For example,
former Senator Byrd and Congressman White and their wives may expect to draw $7,800,000 - that's Seven
Million, Eight Hundred Thousand), with their wives drawing $275,000.00 during the last years of their lives.

This is calculated on an average life span for each.  Their cost for this excellent plan is $00.00.  These little perks they voted for themselves is free to them. You and I pick up the tab for this plan.  
 
The funds for this fine retirement plan come directly from the General  Fund--our tax dollars at work!  From our own Social Security Plan, which you and I pay (or have paid) into -- every payday until we retire (which amount is matched by our employer) --we can expect to get an average $1,000 per month after retirement.  Or, in other words, we would have to collect our average of
$1,000 monthly benefits for 68 years and one month to equal Senator Bill Bradley's benefits!
 
Social Security could be very good if only one small change were made.  And that change would be to jerk the Golden Fleece Retirement Plan from under the
Senators and Congressmen.  Put them into the Social Security plan with the rest of us and then watch how fast they would fix it.
 
If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of awareness will be planted and maybe good changes will evolve.  WE, each one of us... can make a difference.. End Qutoe



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very intresting
thats the world we live in folks
didnt vote? dont complain!
wanna change it? V O T E !
 
yeah i have 12 more years till retirement from active duty and stuff like that got me rethinkin if ima do 20 years
 
"The nice guy finishes last!"

This phrase says it all.
Ain't that the freaking truth...
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With a wife and 3 kids, I unfortunately am seriously thinking about finishing the enlistment that I am on right now (2nd) and getting out of the Marine Corps. I love the Corps, but the pay just isn't there. Not for those of us that have more than 1 child.
 
Well I am retiring after 20 years and I could care less what a congressman is getting or for that matter what I am getting.  I had the HONOR of serving with some of the best men I will ever know.  Defending a country that I love.  I knew the risks of this calling when I signed up.  Should the benefits be better... Yes!  Is money why I am here...NO!  

HONOR, COURAGE AND COMMITTMENT!

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Amen!

I served almost 8 years in the military (13 months of which was in a "hostile fire zone") and I vote. In my view, that gives me the right to criticize our great-but-imperfect America. Far too many Americans are fat, spoiled, selfish, and geopolitically naive/complacent.

It is as Winston Churchill said about the Royal Air Force after the WWII Battle of Britan... "Never have so many owed so much to so few!"

American soldiers should have the highest honors, compensation, privileges, benefits, and rights in our society!!!

Soldiering can be likened to riding a Hayabusa. If you've never done it, you really don't understand it.
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Amen!

I served almost 8 years in the military (13 months of which was in a "hostile fire zone") and I vote. In my view, that gives me the right to criticize our great-but-imperfect America. Far too many Americans are fat, spoiled, selfish, and geopolitically naive/complacent.

It is as Winston Churchill said about the Royal Air Force after the WWII Battle of Britan... "Never have so many owed so much to so few!"

American soldiers should have the highest honors, compensation, privileges, benefits, and rights in our society!!!

Soldiering can be likened to riding a Hayabusa. If you've never done it, you really don't understand it.
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Yep,been there with ya.Problem is,despite the fact that I vote based on some of the points you have made,the same general public you have correctly described (unfortunately) seems to vote for whomever has the highest funded campaign regardless what they stand for,so things stay the same.Oh well,atleast some of us try to do our part.
 
10-4... agreed.
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Thanks for understanding. Just for the record, it is not for me that I made such comments. I lost too many good men (and nearly myself). That biases me heavily and makes me a bit too "passionate" about the issue. I'll shut up now.
 
you know the people that do the REAL work finish dead last ....ie military,police,fire people that put their lives on the line for others get screwed while the worthless people rake in all the benefits  the world is a sick place and not likely to change for the better i just hope that in the end it is worth it .....
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seems like you vote and try to pick the one who is the least corrupt but they say they are gonna do something to get your votes but you know as long as they are getting paid and benefiting from it they are not going to change it if it keeps them in office and their corrupt buddies happy why change it . i say screw their benefits let them have it like the rest of working people and see how they like it. politicians=corruption IMO ....



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