Chris Moore Gen 3 clickbait?
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Blkoutbusa
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Thought I saw a backdated clutch going in it too
SS4Luck
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I'm sure it's got brocks while catalog in it
Blkoutbusa
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From what I saw, yes.....all the things
Sinister#4
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Pretty dang impressive, the camshafts did it. nice job
Ked0607
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notice he is using BT stacks now????
SS4Luck
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Yeah I noticed that too.
SS4Luck
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Okay let's create some controversy.
200hp is still cool. Would be cooler on pump or even e85. BUT overall, for the work cams are Im. Not impressed.
BT moto advertised 187/197 (93/MR12) with their tune stacks and brocks exhaust.
My bike with the BT setup and my arata made 184 on 91
Chris made 193/200.
Let's round to make things easier.
BT 190/200
My personal bike 185
MM 195/200
Including inflation for sales and marketing. I don't see a significant or big enough difference to justify the cost and labor of swapping cams for 5 hp. Not even a Maxx effort stock motor chest the rules kind of situation would I see that being worth. It didn't move the RPM band up and in a real world acersge rider situation that anniversary bike won't be any faster than a true stock motor bike. I would put my bike or a lot of the other lightweight bikes up against that cam only bike and would bet if you're not trying to go 200 the lightweight bikes would still best it.
I know gen 2 cams drop into the gen 3 head. Carpenter has a 210hp head and intake intake cam package for 2500. They have a 220+ ported head true cam package for like 4000.
In the big scheme of things I'm just not overly satisfied and don't think people that spend the money will be either.
200hp is still cool. Would be cooler on pump or even e85. BUT overall, for the work cams are Im. Not impressed.
BT moto advertised 187/197 (93/MR12) with their tune stacks and brocks exhaust.
My bike with the BT setup and my arata made 184 on 91
Chris made 193/200.
Let's round to make things easier.
BT 190/200
My personal bike 185
MM 195/200
Including inflation for sales and marketing. I don't see a significant or big enough difference to justify the cost and labor of swapping cams for 5 hp. Not even a Maxx effort stock motor chest the rules kind of situation would I see that being worth. It didn't move the RPM band up and in a real world acersge rider situation that anniversary bike won't be any faster than a true stock motor bike. I would put my bike or a lot of the other lightweight bikes up against that cam only bike and would bet if you're not trying to go 200 the lightweight bikes would still best it.
I know gen 2 cams drop into the gen 3 head. Carpenter has a 210hp head and intake intake cam package for 2500. They have a 220+ ported head true cam package for like 4000.
In the big scheme of things I'm just not overly satisfied and don't think people that spend the money will be either.
pcs
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cam swaps shouldnt be too hard, more time consuming to be done right. i wouldnt be worked up about the hp the cams made for now. we don’t know any specs and whether or not they are being ran on stock springs. what we do know is the motor does respond nice up to with just a cam swap and stock head.
ArabianOak
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my gen 2 zx14 motor makes 208hp with just a woolich tune on 93. not that the busa needs more power but i am stumped on why Suzuki didnt at least compete with that.
Robert 0046
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Im in that same line as you not impresed
Suzuki went the safe route.....they didn't have to compete with the ZX14R anymore.....they did make a whole bunch of changes to the engine.....I wonder how hard it would have been breath a little fire into it....
I get that the aftermarket will get the bike to where people want it but it seems pretty expensive to get it there.
SS4Luck
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Most likely it has to do with Euro5 compliance. ITs killing of pretty much every other manufacturers big CC stuff.
Pasis
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Hi guys. Has anyone here already installed Gen2 camshafts on a Gen3 engine? Are there any results? Initially, this looks like a simple solution that can raise the potential of gen3 to the level of gen2 at least.
It’s been 3 years since the premiere, and I still haven’t come across information about such a swap
It’s been 3 years since the premiere, and I still haven’t come across information about such a swap
SS4Luck
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It has been done in big HP bikes/1441 builds that. I dont know of anyone that has done Gen 2 cams on a stock Gen 3 head though. I am about to have my engine built and there is talk of using Gen 2 cams in my build with a very ported Gen 3 head
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