What kind of plastic welding rods do i use

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Does anyone know what type of plastic sportbike fairings are commonly made of? Or is there a way to tell the difference? What type of plastic welding rod do I use?

Thanks guys!

Jason
 
Wow! What a ####! I think I might be able to find the search button. Thanks for the blast of intelligence...  
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By the way, I'm laughing just so you know. I thought a fellow board member might have the answer for me other than, "Why don'tcha try lookin' it up."  
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well it depends I guess I have a plastice welder with two pivot ends only two sizes of rods 3/16 and 1/2 so if that helps...I guess it depends on big of a break you got in the plastic and how wide a weld you want to put in to secure it back together.....my .02 cents worth...
 
well it depends I guess I have a plastice welder with two pivot ends only two sizes of rods  3/16 and 1/2 so if that helps...I guess it depends on big of a break you got in the plastic and how wide a weld you want to put in to secure it back together.....my .02 cents worth...
Well, I'm actually going off of Narcissus' suggestion of filling rash and welding cracks. I have a Weller Soldering iron and, as opposed to finding junked plastic to shave and use for my fairings, I was going to use plastic welding rods; however, the rods come in a variety of composites, and I know most of the hard plastic composite fairings are composed of ABS plastic, but I'm not certain. So, I was wondering if there is a way to the difference in the plastic composites?

Have any ideas, Mick? or anyone else?
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Jason....
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the reason for the search button comment was because it is notably absent from my browser...

If I could have found the thread for ya I'd have provided the link. Do you have cracked fairings or doing a mod?
 
Jason....  
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 the reason for the search button comment was because it is notably absent from my browser...

If I could have found the thread for ya I'd have provided the link.  Do you have cracked fairings or doing a mod?
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I got'cha! Lol!

I picked up a bike from a guy on a race team I have been chumming with and am going to use it for track school and so forth. The bike has a street fairing, but the guy crashed it on the street and scuffed it up fairly bad. I thought this would be as good a time as any to learn a bit about body work.

In searching the topic, I've found (so far) that there is really no easy way to determine the plastic type unless you know it is stock or aftermarket, and made by "so and so," then you can reasearch from the company that made the fairing. If you've got no idea, so far, all I've found is the old "trial and error" technique with plastic rods in a small section. When you get good adhesion, you've got the right rod. Most fairings are composed of ABS, and luckily the street fairing for the bike is stock, and as far as I've found the stock fairing is ABS.

Geez, it can never be easy.
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So, I guess, I'll go from there.
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Is this the same guy that asked what a Dremel tool was??
Am I the same guy that asked what a dremel tool is?

Not sure if you meant the thread starter, coroded alien or Mick.

Anyway, nope; I didn't ask what a dremel tool is. If never knew what one was before, I would have found out when I helped a friend remodel his bathroom and watched him fire the tip of the tool across the room (yes I LMAO) and shatter his bathroom mirror...Ahhhhh! He was pissed!
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Oh, the lessons we learn. Hahahaha!
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In any case, I'm not that lacking in "handy dandy" intelligence; however, I have never plastic welded before and would like to know at least the basics prior to working on my fairings. Is that bad? Why do you ask?

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This is what I found:

http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=1261&itemType=CATEGORY&iMainCat=688&iSubCat=1261

There's some advice in there on how to identify what type of plastic you're working with so you can match the welding rod to the material.

Hope this helps, I've never done it myself.
Excellent DAB! Thank you. I had found something similar regarding the burn test, but this is a bit more in detail. For instance, I guess I am slow sometimes, when I first read about the burn test, I was wondering how in the hell one would do that without holding a flame to their fairing! I didn't think about using the sliver from the small valley I'll scrape out for the welding rod! Ha! I AM slow sometimes!
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I appreciate the help...
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Nope. I was just giving you a little crap. I've never welded plastic either. Don't think I'd trust myself doing something like that. I thought you were going down the road of left handed hammers and concrete welders. Good luck with your fairings.
 
I remember seeing a post about that very subject here a couple of weeks ago but I can't find it to save my life.  However, it was about using plastic from old damaged parts to fix broken plastic.  Very in-depth description of how to do it best.  He also told how he "welded" a piece of plastic over the rear-tail section keyhole to make it conform to the shape of the tail.  

Keep hunting for it.  You'll find it.

EDIT: Here: Found it.



Hayabusa Board » Technical » Maintenance and Do-It-Yourself » Plastic Repair 101 Hosted by Prof. Projekt Forum

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Nope.  I was just giving you a little crap.  I've never welded plastic either.  Don't think I'd trust myself doing something like that.  I thought you were going down the road of left handed hammers and concrete welders.  Good luck with your fairings.
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I feel ya'.
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I remember seeing a post about that very subject here a couple of weeks ago but I can't find it to save my life.  However, it was about using plastic from old damaged parts to fix broken plastic.  Very in-depth description of how to do it best.  He also told how he "welded" a piece of plastic over the rear-tail section keyhole to make it conform to the shape of the tail.  

Keep hunting for it.  You'll find it.

EDIT:  Here:  Found it.



Hayabusa Board » Technical » Maintenance and Do-It-Yourself » Plastic Repair 101 Hosted by Prof. Projekt Forum

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Cool. Thanks Wag!
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Look at the "Plastic Repair 101 (sticky)". The technique is there. All you need to do is re-join the fractured plastics together with heat and patience. You can then find a plastic filler compound (Try 3M products or go to your nearest paint supply specialist) that will rebuild the rashed areas to original thickness. There is a special type of Black plastic body filler that is specifically for black ABS plastic commonly used in Automotive bumper covers and trim items. It is not well known because most repair facilities simply replace parts instead of attempting the time consuming (but not much time) repair. Another reason body shops don't use it is because it sands smooth and many plastics that it is compatible with are textured. Another option is to use commonly available two part epoxy to complete the repair. You can find a type that mixes grey or black, just ask around at body shops.
Also you can run an internet search for a company called "The Plastic Surgeon" or TPS.com I believe.
 
Ok, this might sounds really really stupid.. bu here it goes.

What about using a hot glkue gun?

I was working with one of my kids projects and we were using a hot glue gun and I was amazed at how well the glue held when it dried.

Also, what about using a fiber glass repair kit? Go to home depot and purchase some fiberglass resin, sand the cracks and fill them with fiber resin..

I re-fiberglassed my boat and the stuff is easy to work with. Probably better to use the fiberglass route than the hotglue gun. You would be able to sand it and stuff using the fiberglass
 
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