Sunday Radar Gun Results

[Guest]

Dam another double post.

[This message has been edited by Lyle (edited 08 December 1999).]

[Guest]

Jamie.

I-81 between Harrisburg and Carlisle just received new pavement. Escape is off an exit then go to ground in the woods. For you far away folks i-81 parrallels the Appalachian Mountains along the Cumberland Valley in Penna USA. Good surface, fairly straight and excellent hiding places and escape routes up in the mountains. Only disadvantage is very slow truck traffic.

My Busa gets delivered in 2 weeks. So it's going to be a while before it's broken in and my balls have grown sufficiently to try 160 mph runs on a new bike.

Jamie did you hear anything about the new motorcycle race track being built up at Tower City PA? Supposed to be ready in April ???. That would be the place to do speed trials.

[This message has been edited by Lyle (edited 08 December 1999).]

[OB_Jamie]

Lyle,
Who'd you order your bike through? Koups or West Shore Suzuki?

The place I usually run is on Rt 15 heading toward Gettysburg between the Camp Hill Mall and the Turnpike (past the Yamaha dealer). There at Rossmoine Drive there is the hellish bumps I was talking about so be careful.

I wringed the snot out of my old bike (750 Ninja) over on 83 between Yellow Freight (and the new Wendys) and Consolidated Freight. It's pretty straight, though it's super hilly. The night I did that run I had a big car gaining on me pretty quick and I was going about 95mph. I didn't stick around to find out if it was a cop or not. I tucked in and let 'er rip. I only encountered one other car before I got off the expressway. It was some little crap box Hundai or something. The drive must have been watching his mirrors because he actually moved over onto the median of the road to give me extra room. I'd have paid money to see me fly by him at those speeds (from his perspective).

Last time I did any high speed on I 81, I came down off of 114 to head South to Carlisle. When I his the seam between the on ramp and the expressway, under full power, the bike started head shaking violently. It was the first time that I'd ever had that happen. I rolled off of it slowly and it came back to normal. As soon as I was sure my underwear was clean I got back into it and it started head shaking again. The pavement must be rutted from all the semi-trucks.

I just remembered over on 15 I had my buddy's Vette up to 140 ('85 weakling) way out between Gettysburg and Heidlerburg. 15 is real nice out that way.

What's the track at Tower City supposed to be? Paved? How long is it? Circle or quarter mile? This is the first I've heard of it. Lotsa land up there. What a drive to get there though, about an hour.

[OB_zxfan]

Jamie,
The radar gun is owned by a local motorcycle dealership. We have access to it. It is a Stalker II, also has a serial port for hookup to a PC. Cost is a little under 2 grand. All of the bikes speedos read on the high side except the R-1 which has been regeared, 3 teeth lower on the rear. The indicated speed on it (digital speedo) was 188. Actual speed was 187.2, pretty darn close. Basically the run is about 1.5 miles to the gun, it varies slightly as to when the actual acceleration begins. The road is dead straight and very level. We have radared all types of bikes from stock 600's to full out roadrace bikes. It is always a great time.

Anybody else have any actual measured speed as per Sherm's post?

[Guest]

Sorry to get off topic zxfan.

Jamie Bike is ordered at Trans-am in Lititz PA. Good folks gave me a good deal, for what it's worth to you all. There is a '99 Copper Busa a West Shore with 275 miles on it that I agonized over for a week. Check it out Jamie. Trade your ZX11 for a real bike. heha

I-81 has fresh pavement now for speed runs.

To others how is the "yellow box" working out. That would be the ticket for measuring street speed runs.

[OB_DangerMouse]

ZXFan that's a coicidence my stock R1 reads 188 whilst bouncing off the rev limiter in top (probably a true 175 in real money on standard gearing.) - looks like you need to lose 3 teeth to sort a R1 speedo out!

Pulling true high 180s on a R1 with it's god awful areodynamics is truely amazing - that thing must have some motor in it.

The 180MPH Busa is by far the slowest I've ever heard of, I reckon the owner better take it back to the dealers - are you sure he hasn't been sold a ZZR1100 in disguise?

[OB_Jamie]

Cool, West Shore has one? I wonder if they'd let me ride it? I go in there after I modify anything to measure any power differences on their dyno. I went in there so much last year that they seemed a little pissed off. The last time I was there I made 149hp vs 118hp stock (ZX11). The mechanic said "THat's Hayabusa territory." He meant stock. They'd said they sold two Busas to guys who didn't ride them. I guess the one that's for sale is one of them.

Can't sell my bike now I have more in it than it's worth. I picked up a used NOS kit for it that I hope to put on this winter. Fun Fun. Hope to bury my 200mph speedo this spring.

Give me a shout when you're comfortable with your bike. I'd like to see what I could do againt it, then we'll hop yours up.

[OB_Hayabusero]

Hey zxfan... It must have been "Miss Daisy", or "Fat Bastard" riding that busa. Whoever the owner is, he needs to take it back and get a refund, cause he got robbed...

[OB_turbo1300]

No, the guy probably was 105 soaking wet, but Superbike Mike worked on his bike the day before and ****ed it up like he did mine.

[OB_sc2641]

Check this article out,very impressive.
http://www.2wf.com/html/stories/MerenaHaya/Merena_Page2.shtml

[Guest]

I wonder what the gas strainer looks like on the 180 mph Busa? I would bet it's partially clogged.

[This message has been edited by Lyle (edited 13 December 1999).]

[OB_Jamie]

Turbo1300 What did you have Mike do to your bike?

[OB_Jamie]

Turbo,
What's wrong with it then? Low on power? Sluggish or surging? What's the copmpression set to? Did you break it in properly on "real" oil for about 1k miles? Check the cam degrees and do a copression check.

Jamie

[OB_turbo1300]

I'm waiting on cases right now. It is all in pieces right now.

[OB_cbxchris]

Turbo did you get a chance to check what your compression was when you had starter problems? Must have been out of sight! Hopefully mine will work out to around 240-250...probably end up on race gas though.

[OB_turbo1300]

15 to 5 to 1 on pump gas. i will let you know next month what i end up with on pump gas without any problems.

[OB_turbo1300]

He installed a piston kit that had to high compression and that broke the boss off of the case where the shaft comes out. he did that twice and
wanted me to fix it for the third time. plus he told me to buy a bunch of stuff i didn't need. he messed my bike up pretty bad. plus he lied on
numerous counts and when i bought my pc2 he kept my dyno jet disc and gave me a copy and told me that was the one that came with it. I could
go on about the dumb stuff he did but I am to embarrassed.

[OB_cbxchris]

Turbo you probably had over 300 pounds cranking compression...wow! Not many stock starters on any engine will turn that without problems. The old GS engine would throw the rotor off or the end of the crank would break with over 250.. ..if it was used reguarly.

[OB_Jamie]

Turbo1300,

15.5 to 1 !!!!!!

There's no way you can run that on pump gas, no way at all.

I've never done any work on Busa engines but I'd bet 13:1 is about the limit maybe 13.5 or so if you pulled the timing back.

Is the 15.5 to 1 engine going to have huge cams with lots of overlap to bleed some of that compression out?

I've never bought any of SBM's stuff but I've spoken to his guys on the phone. They want a fortune for "their" stuff. They wanted $200 or $250 for a sleeve that I had made for $90.

[OB_turbo1300]

I told you SBM is a dumb a$$. And this bike was to be streetable for 10K miles--so he said!