Reflash Or Pc/autotune Question

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I've been busy and just sticking my head in here for a quick second before heading out for a ride today.
But it looks like I've gotten a ton of informative responses and comments and thats nothing short of awesome.
Tommorow is supposed to be rainy and cold so I will make time to sit down and read then.
Thanks guys!

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Man this sounds like it's pretty dangerous! I have been waiting for a good integrated HUD so I never have to look away from the road at all.

That's another good point. LOL in the "closed loop" video, I think you actually see me make a semi-emergency swirve correction when I'm cruising! yeah, I think I remember doing that. It's true--even though I don't look at the gauges during a run, I do need to refer to them just beforehand. The TP has to be right and the starting finishing rpm has to to be right. I guess I did often make a quick glance at the TP gauge during a run to make sure I was on the mark. You get the technique down. You get to know where 80% TP is an you lock it with your thumb against the control pod or something. I have thought about making an adjustable throttle stop for this. Also, Autotune does make a calculation for fueling requirements between TP columns in the table so if you accidentally roll to 83% during an 80% run, those will still be pretty accurate trims.

To be looking at all those numbers and things and trying to get the engine to high revs seems like an invitation to a law suit for DJ!

That is probably the whole reason they claim you can just ride the bike and accept trims when you get done. That will work to some degree but with all the useless trims you get from decellerating, variable TPs, fuel cut and other things, that approach is not very useful. Probably better for normal street riding but I was told early on by a tuner that using Autotune like you were doing a dyno run is the only way to make it reliable.

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Well it took me long enough but I'm back, lol!
Thanks everybody for replies.
For my particular application, I think I will probably fall in the category of guys like fallenarch.
If my hayabusa was my only motorcycle (currently have 5, and yes I have issues :laugh:), then, by the way I'm understanding it, I think the autotune would be something I would enjoy tinkering with, but do to the limited amount of time I would have, I think I would rather just have a good all around base/dyno tune and be done with it.
The stock power my hayabusa makes is plenty for me, and there is 2 reasons I'm bothering with a tuner. First reason is because I am going to be installing my v&h header soon, and my understanding has always been that installing aftermarket cans is generally safe without a tune, but doing a full exhaust with header and you need to re-tune so not to run the already lean factory running engine too much leaner. Only reason for the full exhaust change is because of the significant amount of weight savings. I am having lots of fun in the twisty's with it and wanted to do a couple no-brainer weight savings. I know its not going to handle like a 400 lb bike, but it can still be alot of fun to lean at times, as we all know.
Second reason for a tuner is because I've read here where a reflash/tuner with dyno tune will help smooth out throttle response. I'm running stock sprockets with a 55 tire and sometimes when I need to add a little throttle during the turn and coming out of the turn I notice the throttle a little choppy. A much better rider than me would compensate easy enough, but with the level I'm at, I still spook myself a wee bit when the motor is a little "jerky" when I'm leaned over pretty far and need to pick up speed. Smoothness of the wrist helps, and I am working on that and making much improvement. Something I tried for the heck of it, and it definetly helped, was when I am riding the twistys is to drop down to B mode and sometimes C mode. It allows me to comfortably get alot more speed through the turns without worrying about the bike getting "jerky".
I hope this all makes sense. Its only the middle of november, so I have a while to do some more learning on the subject.

Thanks again guys!

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Yeah, I get ya but I would expect any kind of tune to that makes more power at all TPs is going to make the bike more jumpy, not less. They might be able to do something with the flies at low TPs (which is what B and C mode are doing) but that will make less power at low TPs too. Sounds like you are making a good decision given he time you have. You can't go wrong. A dyno tune will be cheaper than all the equipment too.
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