New Law In N.C. (Finally)

[GSXRFANN]

They are finally passing a law here that gives the home owner the benefit of the doubt in a robbery/intrusion shooting.
It is about time!

[brpo]

Castle Doctrine... A man's home is his castle!

[pack mule]

Finally

[mr8ball]

Glad to here that. You should be able to protect what is yours

[Blanca BusaLess]

Celebrate and go kill a burglar

[GSXRFANN]

Celebrate and go kill a burglar

I hope and Pray that it never comes to that, but it is nice to be prepared!!!

[jellyrug]

Yep, happened December 1st. I did a carry course Saturday and we went through all the stuff. There are still twists though, if he walks through an unlocked door, is not armed, you can't pull the trigger. If he forces entry, you can.

[GNBRETT]

if he walks through an unlocked door, is not armed, you can't pull the trigger. If he forces entry, you can.

Dead men tell no lies......

[Loomis]

Just renewed my CCW, good for 5 more yrs..

[Duts87ss]

Yep, happened December 1st. I did a carry course Saturday and we went through all the stuff. There are still twists though, if he walks through an unlocked door, is not armed, you can't pull the trigger. If he forces entry, you can.

*IF* I get in the situation that I have to shoot an intruder, I'll shoot to kill (however many shots it takes) and the story is that the door was locked.

[karnage]

If the thief enters my unlocked door unarmed, I will shoot, drag him in and put a weapon in his hand.

[lankeeyankee]

2 Tennessee laws recently passed for gun owners.. 1) While in your car you can use deadly force to protect yourself if one tries to enter such as a car jacking I would assume its the same if you are on your motorcycle.
2) You can use deadly force to protect yourself or another innocent bystander in an event of a felony such as armed robbery and the victims family loses all rights to sue.

Yeah I luv this state! Very little to no car jackings here in TN, but where I am from NJ where people arent allowed to carry a pistol has the largest car jackings for the nation.

[GNBRETT]

2 Tennessee laws recently passed for gun owners.. 1) While in your car you can use deadly force to protect yourself if one tries to enter such as a car jacking I would assume its the same if you are on your motorcycle.
2) You can use deadly force to protect yourself or another innocent bystander in an event of a felony such as armed robbery and the victims family loses all rights to sue.

Yeah I luv this state! Very little to no car jackings here in TN, but where I am from NJ where people arent allowed to carry a pistol has the largest car jackings for the nation.

u cant really compare TN to NJ as far as crime goes. NJ is a chithole and has had led the country on and off in violent crimes and stolen cars for decades now. there is little evidence to support citizens having more guns would result in less violent crimes. sry, but the statistics just dont support that.

look at a place like Houston TX. everyone has guns there and its a violent crime ridden city. Birmingham AL, Baltimore, New Orleans, plenty of cities in Cali. guns are not banned there. in fact places that have more guns in general are often more likely to have overall gun violence from guns being stolen in burglaries.

[Seno]

The castle doctrine needs to be further expanded... but its a start! Congrats, here in NY I am supposed to retreat.... SURE I WILL!

[lankeeyankee]

u cant really compare TN to NJ as far as crime goes. NJ is a chithole and has had led the country on and off in violent crimes and stolen cars for decades now. there is little evidence to support citizens having more guns would result in less violent crimes. sry, but the statistics just dont support that.

look at a place like Houston TX. everyone has guns there and its a violent crime ridden city. Birmingham AL, Baltimore, New Orleans, plenty of cities in Cali. guns are not banned there. in fact places that have more guns in general are often more likely to have overall gun violence from guns being stolen in burglaries.

First off, I am not going to get in a debate with you. Second of all dont tell me what I can compare and what I cant compare when I lived in NJ for 19 years and have lived in TN for 20 years. I have been to court for violating the NJ gun law, unlawful possesion of a firearm back in 1994. New Jersey considers a BB gun an assault weapon!! I know NJ gun laws in and out. I had Evan Napan represent me in court. Look him up any of you that reside in NJ He specializes in guns and the ridiculous gun laws they have!
Hmmm lets see, I carjack cars for a living..... do I take my buisness to TN where the majority of drivers are armed or do I go to a state where its illegal for citizens to carry firearms??

OK for the rest of you.. Here is one of the many reasons why responsible citizens should own a firearm..
Gun Ownership Mandatory In Kennesaw, Georgia
Crime Rate Plummets

by Chuck Baldwin

The New American magazine reminds us that March 25th marked the 16th anniversary of Kennesaw, Georgia's ordinance requiring heads of households (with certain exceptions) to keep at least one firearm in their homes.

The city's population grew from around 5,000 in 1980 to 13,000 by 1996 (latest available estimate). Yet there have been only three murders: two with knives (1984 and 1987) and one with a firearm (1997). After the law went into effect in 1982, crime against persons plummeted 74 percent compared to 1981, and fell another 45 percent in 1983 compared to 1982.

And it has stayed impressively low. In addition to nearly non-existent homicide (murders have averaged a mere 0.19 per year), the annual number of armed robberies, residential burglaries, commercial burglaries, and rapes have averaged, respectively, 1.69, 31.63, 19.75, and 2.00 through 1998.

With all the attention that has been heaped upon the lawful possession of firearms lately, you would think that a city that requires gun ownership would be the center of a media feeding frenzy. It isn't. The fact is I can't remember a major media outlet even mentioning Kennesaw. Can you?

The reason is obvious. Kennesaw proves that the presence of firearms actually improves safety and security. This is not the message that the media want us to hear. They want us to believe that guns are evil and are the cause of violence.

The facts tell a different story. What is even more interesting about Kennesaw is that the city's crime rate decreased with the simple knowledge that the entire community was armed. The bad guys didn't force the residents to prove it. Just knowing that residents were armed prompted them to move on to easier targets. Most criminals don't have a death wish.

There have been two occasions in my own family when the presence of a handgun averted potential disaster. In both instances the gun was never aimed at a person and no shot was fired.



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[Sous]

Welcome to the club! Georgia has a similar law, but it encompasses your property as well. It is called the "no retreat". The name alone should tell you that we mean business if you come onto my property and try to harm me or my family.

Recently I had a man break into our garage, I held him at gun point and fired 1 warning shot before the Sheriff arrived to arrest him. Thank you 2nd amendment.

[Seno]

Lankeeyankee- You are 100% correct. It is a proven statistic in places where civilians have the right to arm themselves, the crime rate is generaly reduced.

[lankeeyankee]

Lankeeyankee- You are 100% correct. It is a proven statistic in places where civilians have the right to arm themselves, the crime rate is generaly reduced.

I dont hear of many gun stores getting robbed. The rare cases that you hear of are a suicide, just as if one gets shot by a police officer and he only had a plastic bb gun posing as a real gun.

[GNBRETT]

First off, I am not going to get in a debate with you. Second of all dont tell me what I can compare and what I cant compare when I lived in NJ for 19 years and have lived in TN for 20 years. I have been to court for violating the NJ gun law, unlawful possesion of a firearm back in 1994. New Jersey considers a BB gun an assault weapon!! I know NJ gun laws in and out. I had Evan Napan represent me in court. Look him up any of you that reside in NJ He specializes in guns and the ridiculous gun laws they have!
Hmmm lets see, I carjack cars for a living..... do I take my buisness to TN where the majority of drivers are armed or do I go to a state where its illegal for citizens to carry firearms??

OK for the rest of you.. Here is one of the many reasons why responsible citizens should own a firearm..
Gun Ownership Mandatory In Kennesaw, Georgia
Crime Rate Plummets

by Chuck Baldwin

The New American magazine reminds us that March 25th marked the 16th anniversary of Kennesaw, Georgia's ordinance requiring heads of households (with certain exceptions) to keep at least one firearm in their homes.

The city's population grew from around 5,000 in 1980 to 13,000 by 1996 (latest available estimate). Yet there have been only three murders: two with knives (1984 and 1987) and one with a firearm (1997). After the law went into effect in 1982, crime against persons plummeted 74 percent compared to 1981, and fell another 45 percent in 1983 compared to 1982.

And it has stayed impressively low. In addition to nearly non-existent homicide (murders have averaged a mere 0.19 per year), the annual number of armed robberies, residential burglaries, commercial burglaries, and rapes have averaged, respectively, 1.69, 31.63, 19.75, and 2.00 through 1998.

With all the attention that has been heaped upon the lawful possession of firearms lately, you would think that a city that requires gun ownership would be the center of a media feeding frenzy. It isn't. The fact is I can't remember a major media outlet even mentioning Kennesaw. Can you?

The reason is obvious. Kennesaw proves that the presence of firearms actually improves safety and security. This is not the message that the media want us to hear. They want us to believe that guns are evil and are the cause of violence.

The facts tell a different story. What is even more interesting about Kennesaw is that the city's crime rate decreased with the simple knowledge that the entire community was armed. The bad guys didn't force the residents to prove it. Just knowing that residents were armed prompted them to move on to easier targets. Most criminals don't have a death wish.

There have been two occasions in my own family when the presence of a handgun averted potential disaster. In both instances the gun was never aimed at a person and no shot was fired.



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if arming everyone would stop crimes from happening it would have been done a long time ago. doesnt work like that and has been proven not to work. in fact, criminals shoot at cops all the time and the criminals know with 100% certainty that the cop is armed.

and NJ and TN are two completely different areas and have virtually nothing in common. down south ppl tend to respect the law more then they do up north generally but plenty of areas in the south have extreme gun violence and most of the south has pretty liberal guns laws so ur argument doesnt hold water.

NJ has strict gun laws and it does virtually nothing to stop criminals from using them or getting them. just as areas that have liberal gun laws doesnt stop criminals from getting them and using them.

where do u think criminals get their guns from? you think they go into a gun store and buy them? they get them from ppl who can get them legally by either stealing them or buying them from ppl who report them stolen and sell to them or thru straw sales.

[skydivr]

if arming everyone would stop crimes from happening it would have been done a long time ago. doesnt work like that and has been proven not to work. in fact, criminals shoot at cops all the time and the criminals know with 100% certainty that the cop is armed.

and NJ and TN are two completely different areas and have virtually nothing in common. down south ppl tend to respect the law more then they do up north generally but plenty of areas in the south have extreme gun violence and most of the south has pretty liberal guns laws so ur argument doesnt hold water.

NJ has strict gun laws and it does virtually nothing to stop criminals from using them or getting them. just as areas that have liberal gun laws doesnt stop criminals from getting them and using them.

where do u think criminals get their guns from? you think they go into a gun store and buy them? they get them from ppl who can get them legally by either stealing them or buying them from ppl who report them stolen and sell to them or thru straw sales.

And here Brett, is where your logic fails. Gun laws only effect those citizens who chose to FOLLOW THEM. Criminals don't, so the only people that the guns were controlled with were the law-abiders. By allowing for larger LEGAL gun ownership and for law-abiding citizens to protect themselves, crime has, from practically every public and private source, been reduced. At least the law-abiding citizens now have a chance to fight back on a more even playing field. Houston, Birmingham, NOLA, Memphis, Baltimore are all inner city crime mecca's - I wouldn't expect crime to go down too much, because the criminals practically rule in those places. What it does do is keep the crime from spreading to the suburbs. Since when should the criminal have more rights than the victim?

I've had a permit for over 20 years. I've never had to use it or even show it, mostly because I don't present myself as a easy target. But if that time comes, I'm glad the law gives the benefit of the doubt to ME, NOT the guy with the rap sheet a foot long trying to come into my house, jack my car, etc. It will be the last mistake he ever makes.