Debate night!!!

[sixpack577]

My sighting in August of 2009 was less eventful than your sightings. Looking into the night sky in a southeasterly direction I noticed an object that I couldn't even see at that point was blocking my view of the stars briefly as it traveled in my direction. This whole event / sighting occurred over a 4 to 5 second period of time. As it came closer it appeared to be round and looked like a 2 layer cake turned upside down with the bottom layer considerably smaller than to top layer. As it passed over me I could see 4 to 5 antenna arrays of different designs protruding from the bottom layer of the craft. Since I was in a reclining lawn chair I had to take my eyes off the craft to be able to get up as quick a possible so I could track the craft with my eyes. Well, to late... its already gone over the horizon of the homes next to me. Had I been on the roof of my house its likely I would have still been able to see it flying away. My estimate of the crafts size was 60 to a 100 ft in diameter at an elevation of 300 to 500 ft... I would estimate the speed to be about 200 to 300 mph... it was really hard to tell because my time to view it was so short. It did not make a sound and it was dead quiet at that time so had it made any sound its likely I would have heard it. For a week or so afterwards I kept a powerful flash light by my side... I was thinking... please... fly by again so I can light it up! Well, that never happened. Since that time I haven't seen anything except rocket launches in the last couple of weeks from Vandenburg California where Space X is launching Star Link satellites.

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Man, come hang out at my house for one evening...one.
Guarantee you'll see some strange stuff.
The military flies over here daily, pick a known helicopter or jet, and you'll see it here at some point.
I have fighter pilots wave at me, and wag their wings, and yes...they look like they're going to tear the tree tops off when they do, lol.
Marines standing or sitting at the open back door of Ospreys wave too(and those pilots are nuts how they bank and fly those things, lol) I see more of them than anything.
I moved to where I am now a couple years ago, which is only 5 miles from where I grew up, my mom and dad are right down the road.
The military has been flying low here for as long as I can remember(I love watching them).
I remember pilots waving to us on our bikes as kids, and I know the shows they put on were for us.
Then just wait...and you'll see things that you cannot identify...regardless of who is controlling it.
Funky lights, the classic 90° high speed turns, and the occasional fighters escorting or tailing silver balls.
There is as much to see in the day time too, they don't make any effort to hide it.
I pointed out a big silver ball to the wife a few months ago, clear blue sky, and it was stationary, then shot straight up and blinked out.
I've seen it so many times that it's no big deal, she was shocked.
I told her, wait for it...about 30 seconds...and on cue, two F15 Tomcats, folded wings, afterburners glowing, gaining altitude as quickly as they could...you'de think they'd chase aliens in something a little more high-tech, lmao.
One of the main reasons for all of the activity is that I live out in the sticks, and about 15 miles straight ahead of my house is Smith Mtn Lake, and the military has used the dam as a bomb target since it was built in the late 60's, and you can tell what a good time the pilots have doing that.
And, I assume since they like the area so much, they just fly whatever they want and whenever they want...because you and I both know that we are crazy lunatics seeing things, and no one will belive it...oh well...my tinfoil hat fits my head well.
Oh, and I've heard "why don't you ever take pictures then?"
Hmmm, have you ever tried to take a picture of a fighter hauling ass across the sky? Good luck, lol.

[Zerks]

I would love to hang at your place and see all the stuff you just mentioned. Unfortunately, I am not retired yet though I do miss work as much as I can... After 50+ years in the work force I just don't feel like getting up at 430 or 5 am to go to work these days.

About pictures... I would have to have been poised with a finger on the shutter and looking through the camera lens to get a picture that night, The light conditions were not really good for that unless another person was holding my 2 or 3 million power flashlight I had at that time.

So, when are you going to post up pictures that you appear to have the ability to take of these alien craft? Do you have a tripod? If so get it set up so you can grab it, place it, and attempt a picture. I keep 70 mm binoculars with 12 to 60 power on a tripod at times just in case I have a chance to see something interesting in the sky like I did the other night. 2 of those pictures were taken at 30 times magnification,,, that is why they are a little bit grainy.

[Zerks]

You believe that huh? Why, because he said so? His tax returns don’t show any ‘charitable’ contributions. There doesn’t seem to be (any) proof that he donated his salary to charities. This is just one of the sources that disprove that blasphemy.

Fact check: Trump donated portions of presidential salary to agencies, contrary to viral claim

Multiple federal agencies told USA TODAY that Trump did donate his presidential salary, though that is not reflected in his tax returns.

www.usatoday.com

I checked out the video.... turn on the sound... what does the term "dramatic background sound" mean when dispensing another gas lighting segment?

[CBXRider]

The Strike Fighter Wing Pacific is based at the Lemoore NAS about 70 miles SW from here. Whenever I’ve been near there, which is seldom due to the FLATness of the area, I’ve seen quite a few fighters cruising around. One was doing a vertical exercise and watching its ascent was kinda hard like trying to follow a dot that kept getting smaller. Wutta kick in the azz it must be to pilot one of those jets! Never see them here in the foothills.

Strike Fighter Wing Pacific

[CBXRider]

Man, come hang out at my house for one evening...one.
Guarantee you'll see some strange stuff.
The military flies over here daily, pick a known helicopter or jet, and you'll see it here at some point.
I have fighter pilots wave at me, and wag their wings, and yes...they look like they're going to tear the tree tops off when they do, lol.
Marines standing or sitting at the open back door of Ospreys wave too(and those pilots are nuts how they bank and fly those things, lol) I see more of them than anything.
I moved to where I am now a couple years ago, which is only 5 miles from where I grew up, my mom and dad are right down the road.
The military has been flying low here for as long as I can remember(I love watching them).
I remember pilots waving to us on our bikes as kids, and I know the shows they put on were for us.
Then just wait...and you'll see things that you cannot identify...regardless of who is controlling it.
Funky lights, the classic 90° high speed turns, and the occasional fighters escorting or tailing silver balls.
There is as much to see in the day time too, they don't make any effort to hide it.
I pointed out a big silver ball to the wife a few months ago, clear blue sky, and it was stationary, then shot straight up and blinked out.
I've seen it so many times that it's no big deal, she was shocked.
I told her, wait for it...about 30 seconds...and on cue, two F15 Tomcats, folded wings, afterburners glowing, gaining altitude as quickly as they could...you'de think they'd chase aliens in something a little more high-tech, lmao.
One of the main reasons for all of the activity is that I live out in the sticks, and about 15 miles straight ahead of my house is Smith Mtn Lake, and the military has used the dam as a bomb target since it was built in the late 60's, and you can tell what a good time the pilots have doing that.
And, I assume since they like the area so much, they just fly whatever they want and whenever they want...because you and I both know that we are crazy lunatics seeing things, and no one will belive it...oh well...my tinfoil hat fits my head well.
Oh, and I've heard "why don't you ever take pictures then?"
Hmmm, have you ever tried to take a picture of a fighter hauling ass across the sky? Good luck, lol.

Sorry six I thought I’d quoted your post which reminded me of the fighter jets I see sometimes south of me.

[sixpack577]

I would love to hang at your place and see all the stuff you just mentioned. Unfortunately, I am not retired yet though I do miss work as much as I can... After 50+ years in the work force I just don't feel like getting up at 430 or 5 am to go to work these days.

About pictures... I would have to have been poised with a finger on the shutter and looking through the camera lens to get a picture that night, The light conditions were not really good for that unless another person was holding my 2 or 3 million power flashlight I had at that time.

So, when are you going to post up pictures that you appear to have the ability to take of these alien craft? Do you have a tripod? If so get it set up so you can grab it, place it, and attempt a picture. I keep 70 mm binoculars with 12 to 60 power on a tripod at times just in case I have a chance to see something interesting in the sky like I did the other night. 2 of those pictures were taken at 30 times magnification,,, that is why they are a little bit grainy.

lol, my photography is whatever my Android can get, and it has a waterproof case on it.
For reference, I took this one last week.
There is a private flight school about 25 miles north of me, and all the small 2 and 4 seat trainers are always farting around.
They do some cool stuff too though, like fly straight up, kill the engine, and freefall as they restart...you know, out here where the death toll on the ground would be minimal, lol.
I had noticed a funky sounding small bi-plane lately, with one center rear facing propellar, it was traveling about the speed of smell, probably around 3k' max, and this was as good a picture as I could get.
Then I zoomed in on that one and screen shotted it.
But even with the Huge view of the sky I have(and it is Dark here at night), catching anything at speed is hard enough, and if I do, it's just a blur or spec.

[sixpack577]

This is looking around from my driveway, I wish I could do a paneramic shot.
The pic with the sun, if you look down and see the small mountain in the center, behind the tree line, that is where the dam is.
You would think that you could see them coming from that far, and normally you could, but they fly so low that they come right over that visible tree line...I'm waiting for them to blow the shingles off my roof, lol.
No way their altitude is 'legal', but I love it.
And once again...my high quality photography...

[Blanca BusaLess]

Hahahah. Even this guy knows Biden is done. I love these parodies..

[Blanca BusaLess]

You’re the deranged one around here. To me TDS=The Daily Show hosted by Jon Stewart. You should watch it. You, even you might learn something.

Do YOU watch it. I don't think you do cuz if you did....

[sixpack577]

And, as said, this has went on for decades.
A good friend of mine's grandparents lived about 6-7 miles straight out, on Leesville Lake(I'm 3 miles away from there) Smith Mtn empties into the Roanke River, which fills Leesville, which is a holding tank for Smith Mtn, and they pump water up or empty it to keep Smith Mtn's ritzy folk happy(if you ever saw the 80's Bill Murray movie, What about Bob, that's where it was filmed, which led to an onslaught of celebrities and athletes building vacation homes there).
Anyway, they told of how one clear summer day, grandma was in the kitchen and heard a loud roar like she'd never heard.
She came outside to find the tin and wooden roof of the pole barn, about 25'x40', in one piece...laying on the ground about 50' away.
Grandpa comes home from work, and they don't know what to think, other than some freak wind(and it was a calm day).
Well, next day, who shows up at the house? The Navy!
"Mamm, we are very sorry, one of our pilots broke the sound barrier over your house at low altitude. We assumed there may be some damage in the area, and we see your barn, we will take care of that."
No way! Yessir, the Navy greatly exagerated the cost, and sent them a very nice check.
They never said the amount...but it covered the barn.
This was in the late 70's, early 80's.
The biggest shock was somewhere between that actually happening...and the Navy owning up to it.
I would bet that this has happened more than once too, lol

[Zerks]

Not much to report here on fighter jet encounters. One time when I was hauling freight my route was taking me out the eastern side of Oregon and heading due east. Just minding my own business and not a soul in sight when I hear this high pitched whine increasing in volume. What flashes through your mind is... what is it? Is something about to cause me to break down out here in the middle of nowhere? That was short lived because a fighter jet just over took me from behind at I would estimate at about a 100 to 150 ft above me. Wow! well that was exciting as he roared off in front of me. About a minute later he passed by me close enough for me to see him wagging his wings at me.

I use to live in Layton Utah about a mile and a half south of the runway at Hill AFB. Whatever it was that went down in 1986 when Reagan was in office got the F-16s to scramble in the middle of the night. I was asleep when it started... I was awakened abruptly and wondered if we were going to be attacked by some unknown enemy. I don't remember how many flew over but it had to be at least 15 or 20 jets in rapid succession.
You don't forget stuff like that.

[Bumblebee]

While in theater, aircraft are always flying around on missions engaging the enemy or doing recon...

We would often call in airstrikes on enemy positions and depending on what is on orbit at the time various platforms could be used..

Specters were something to see when they attacked at night.......and A-10s were pretty impressive with their dive and cannon burst......you'd see them dive, see the smoke trail and then hear the "burrrrrrrrt" when they pulled up.......and just know somebody is going to have a bad day....

I've seen them all and they are pretty impressive.

Many times we were in a covert position and watched an entire brigade get heli-lifted into position...we're talking a lot of helicopters which made the ground thump as they passed over

[OldBusaGuy]

Do you realize that Trump donated his entire presidential salary to charity during his 4 years in office?

Do people with greedy desires donate money voluntarily?

Do you realize that instead of using Camp David or other government properties to host foreign leaders, trump used his own properties and funneled millions of dollars for secret service and others to stay there? The amount that he has grifted from taxpayers makes his salary look like a very small tip. Not to mention the couple of billion dollars that his daughter just happened to get from other countries. Did you attend trump university?

[OldBusaGuy]

Do you realize that Trump donated his entire presidential salary to charity during his 4 years in office?

Do people with greedy desires donate money voluntarily?

There is also this: https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/11/did...in-2020-tax-returns-dont-tell-full-story.html

And this: Donald J. Trump Pays Court-Ordered $2 Million For Illegally Using Trump Foundation Funds

And this: Federal court approves $25 million Trump University settlement

I could go on and on but you likely won't bother to look at them anyway. Bottom line is that trump is a total con man that would be in prison if he was a paeon like you and I.

[OldBusaGuy]

What is the likelihood of that source being more disinformation from the MSM which is addicted to gas lighting the American public?

2nd point. His tax returns are suppose to remain private information and only to be released if he allows it. Well, guess what? The Feds break 4th A laws like you changing gears when you ride your Busa. So, anything done illegally to smear a private citizen falls under the category of propaganda... don't want to believe that? Well, check out what the 4th A actually says... I will wait.

Maybe yo missed it, but I distinctly recall trump saying that he would release his tax returns. Of course it was just one of thousands of lies that the pathologically lying orange guy told in his four years as president. Cue the "everyone lies" cry.

[OldBusaGuy]

I would love to hang at your place and see all the stuff you just mentioned. Unfortunately, I am not retired yet though I do miss work as much as I can... After 50+ years in the work force I just don't feel like getting up at 430 or 5 am to go to work these days.

About pictures... I would have to have been poised with a finger on the shutter and looking through the camera lens to get a picture that night, The light conditions were not really good for that unless another person was holding my 2 or 3 million power flashlight I had at that time.

So, when are you going to post up pictures that you appear to have the ability to take of these alien craft? Do you have a tripod? If so get it set up so you can grab it, place it, and attempt a picture. I keep 70 mm binoculars with 12 to 60 power on a tripod at times just in case I have a chance to see something interesting in the sky like I did the other night. 2 of those pictures were taken at 30 times magnification,,, that is why they are a little bit grainy.

I have a place in the mountains in Arizona that I winter at. I regularly see fighter jets come over our trailer, where we stay off grid. One day I was talking to a friend of mine on the phone that was in the navy when I heard a rumble and in about a seconds time, a fighter jet came over our RV at maybe 500 feet elevation. Just after passing over, the jet rolled on it's side and then back upright and headed into the canyons in the mountain range across the highway from us. I told my friend and he told me that the pilot was waving at us.

One night I saw a lime green flare like thing streak across the sky and told a neighbor about it the next day. He told me that the area was a MOA. I asked him what a MOA was and he told me "military operations area".

Another night I saw a very bright light in the sky that kept getting larger as it went from west to east. As it got larger in diameter, it formed a kind of halo. I went in the RV and had my wife come out and see it. Next day, we saw on the news that it was Elon Musk's spacecraft that was carrying a Tesla reentering the atmosphere. I've also seen Ospreys, which have a very odd sound, kind of a cross between a prop plane and a helicopter.

It sure is a lot different than our summer home in Michigan when it comes to things in the sky.

I have taken a few photos and videos of the fighter jets as they usually fly two of them in succession and I have time to get my phone out for the second one. Our tax dollars at work. They have to do it somewhere and if they did it over LA or Chicago or NYC, it would freak too may people out.

[michael parris heuberger]

Do you realize that instead of using Camp David or other government properties to host foreign leaders, trump used his own properties and funneled millions of dollars for secret service and others to stay there? The amount that he has grifted from taxpayers makes his salary look like a very small tip. Not to mention the couple of billion dollars that his daughter just happened to get from other countries. Did you attend trump university?

Hi. No I did not but wished that I did. I would be able to spend millions on my busa not just $130,000.00 to $150,000.00. Maybe than I could be able to go 300 + MPH.

[Blanca BusaLess]

We can all relax now. Joe Biden explained clearly how he was gonna turn things around. In a huge meeting last night with Democratic governors he gets them his detailed plan on how he's gonna fix this and win.
All he needs is.........more sleep. Soooooo. He will not be scheduling events after 8pm from now on.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/04/politics/biden-governors-sleep/index.html

Holy Hell! And he's serious too.
You guys....They got you pickled good.

This is bad bad bad for America. Forget about Trump. Forget about the election. The acting current President of the United States just told everyone he wants to stop working after 8 and go to sleep.

Then there's this...

Biden claims ahead of July 4th that he DID get a medical checkup

President Joe Biden is back on the public stage for Fourth of July Festivities, after telling governors in a closed door meeting he got a medical checkup despite the White House avoiding the topic.

www.dailymail.co.uk

From the article:
"

Joe Biden's longtime friends 'shocked' after president forgot their names, others who meet him feel 'disturbed'​

Some of Joe Biden's friends and top supporters are shocked at his elderly behavior and controlling inner circle.
According to anonymous sources close to the president who spoke to the Intelligencer, the president is forgetting the names of old friends and is easily manipulated by close confidants like his wife and top aides.
Some 'were shocked to find that the president did not remember their names,' the report states.
Others who interacted with him socially were left 'disturbed,' according to the sources.
Some of the elite supporters came away from their interactions wondering if Biden was actually in control of the presidency at all, the sources said."


Me. POTUS does not recognize people. Read the last line. WHO is running things? This IS a serious national security risk no matter what party you follow.

[michael parris heuberger]

We can all relax now. Joe Biden explained clearly how he was gonna turn things around. In a huge meeting last night with Democratic governors he gets them his detailed plan on how he's gonna fix this and win.
All he needs is.........more sleep. Soooooo. He will not be scheduling events after 8pm from now on.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/04/politics/biden-governors-sleep/index.html

Holy Hell! And he's serious too.
You guys....They got you pickled good.

This is bad bad bad for America. Forget about Trump. Forget about the election. The acting current President of the United States just told everyone he wants to stop working after 8 and go to sleep.

Then there's this...

Biden claims ahead of July 4th that he DID get a medical checkup

President Joe Biden is back on the public stage for Fourth of July Festivities, after telling governors in a closed door meeting he got a medical checkup despite the White House avoiding the topic.

www.dailymail.co.uk

From the article:
"

Joe Biden's longtime friends 'shocked' after president forgot their names, others who meet him feel 'disturbed'​

Some of Joe Biden's friends and top supporters are shocked at his elderly behavior and controlling inner circle.
According to anonymous sources close to the president who spoke to the Intelligencer, the president is forgetting the names of old friends and is easily manipulated by close confidants like his wife and top aides.
Some 'were shocked to find that the president did not remember their names,' the report states.
Others who interacted with him socially were left 'disturbed,' according to the sources.
Some of the elite supporters came away from their interactions wondering if Biden was actually in control of the presidency at all, the sources said."


Me. POTUS does not recognize people. Read the last line. WHO is running things? This IS a serious national security risk no matter what party you follow.

Hi. I thought it was no meetings before 12 AM and after 1 PM.

[sixpack577]

Still belive it's good old Joe?