Crash protection

[AmericanThunder]

Just thinking out loud here, but, if sliders were fitted and the damage to the frame was severe enough to total the bike, could the insurer claim that had they not been fitted the the bike would not have been totalled and refuse to pay out?
Aware I’m in the UK and insurance companies might take different views but I don’t know how genuine that concern is.

[sixpack577]

Just thinking out loud here, but, if sliders were fitted and the damage to the frame was severe enough to total the bike, could the insurer claim that had they not been fitted the the bike would not have been totalled and refuse to pay out?
Aware I’m in the UK and insurance companies might take different views but I don’t know how genuine that concern is.

Given how crooked insurance companies are, nothing would suprise me.
Maybe the best bet would be to ask your specific insurance company about having them, explaining they are to hopefully prevent further damage, and if they accept that, and to get it in writing in case of any future claims...cover your own azz.
In the U.S, you can have a perfect driving record, and the moment that you file a claim, even for something that was not your fault, many insurance companies(but not all) either drop you, or hike up your rates so high that you drop them.
The whole insurance system is a money racket.

[BigBSBusa]

Probably should have shown this one first. Here's Baby J after a 30 MPH lowside and downhill, gravel slide. Still not bad.

[Bumblebee]

Probably should have shown this one first. Here's Baby J after a 30 MPH lowside and downhill, gravel slide. Still not bad.

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Gotta love a Micron pipe......I had a set on my RD400 Daytona.....they were awesome......the thing sounded tough.....

[AmericanThunder]

Probably should have shown this one first. Here's Baby J after a 30 MPH lowside and downhill, gravel slide. Still not bad.

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Thanks for that.
If I go that route I’ll notify the insurance company first.
Gotta save up again though. Just bought my airbag shirt and and an airbag vest for the wife.
Thanks all

[pcs]

Gotta love a Micron pipe......I had a set on my RD400 Daytona.....they were awesome......the thing sounded tough.....

i was thinking the same thing as soon as i saw that photo. i ran a black and red high mount on an r6

[sixpack577]

Thanks for that.
If I go that route I’ll notify the insurance company first.
Gotta save up again though. Just bought my airbag shirt and and an airbag vest for the wife.
Thanks all

ebay for cheap sliders and axle sliders, they're just colored plastic and cheap bolts that are meant to bend or break.
No need in spending alot on them.
I am putting the black axle sliders on my Gsxr, and will probably put the regular ones on it too.
The bike had the regular sliders on it when I got it, and had been low-sided at low speed.
The right fairing was trashed, the starter cover and right side bar-end scuffed up, and the slider broken off that side, but it did it's job as nothing else got damaged.
The front rotor had some scuffs too, but I was replacing them as well anyway.

[LC4CARL]

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[sixpack577]

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Yeah, they make good stuff.
If I didn't need my left side upper engine bolt to mount my Constand sleeve for my stand, I would have the cage.
But, that's probably a good thing, as the cage would cause me to just thrash this bike, lol, and I need a beater for that after all the time and money that I have in this one.
I am going to order basic sliders and both axle sliders for it though.
But those cages are great, they take can take a beating, and the weight/impact distribution across 3 mounting points really makes them strong, but without damaging the frame.
I think that they are a great idea for touring bikes too, as if you have them, axle sliders, and a good case saver on the stator cover, the odds of mechanical damage from a fall or low side are pretty slim.

[Mythos]

I crashed my ZX-14. The slider it initially fell on broke off chipping the mounting surface of that slider. As far as i know, a new slider could be installed and the frame is perfectly fine except the tail which is a bolt on part that cracked. They were LSL sliders. They have two mounting points. Another ZX-14 owner reported his bike was totaled because of the same sliders cracking the frame. I don't think I'd use them again. Neither the rear or the front axle sliders I had were touched.

I would get engine cover sliders. The engine covers grind through pretty quick. Woodcraft makes a nice stator cover with a slider on it. It weighs a lot more than the stock cover but if you go down, I doubt that would cause any harm while almost definitely saving the engine from any damage. I can tell you, a Hayabusa tip over sensor doesn't necessarily shut the engine off immediately.

[LC4CARL]

Just thinking out loud here, but, if sliders were fitted and the damage to the frame was severe enough to total the bike, could the insurer claim that had they not been fitted the the bike would not have been totalled and refuse to pay out?
Aware I’m in the UK and insurance companies might take different views but I don’t know how genuine that concern is.

As a former US based auto material damage appraiser, I would say no. The one that got me every time was the beasty 4x4 truck guy that installed monster bumpers, or a class 25 hitch, on his rig. Completely negating the collision energy management of bumpers that were designed by the OEM to crush.

Grr.

[AmericanThunder]

‘If’ I go down that route I’ll make sure the insurance co. Is aware before hand.
It would suck to total the bike in an accident and then suck again because they refused payout.

[TrueGrit]

Definitely good engine covers. I also use Woodcraft.

[Sl@Sh]

I do not have experience with them but have heard exactly what you are describing regarding the bungs, which we also know as "frame sliders". At a tip-over or low speed accident they may grind down and can save $1500 in plastics. Some moderate hit? The force has to go somewhere. The frame is aluminum and any aluminum taking a direct impact is going to give! They also have been known to dig into the ground and flip the bike. That itself could end up killing the rider. It is a gambit. To me the negatives seem highly counterproductive.

I had not heard of this but here @c10 alludes that solid handle bars are a protection for damage. They extend way beyond the body of the bike I guess.

Post in thread 'To BST Carbon Wheels or not to ?'

Jan 10, 2026

if you aren’t chasing speed or doing some kind of racing then i would pass on the CF wheels. they aren’t as durable and not every shop will be able to help with tire swaps. from your pic, looks like you ride on rough road and your bike is equipped with skid plates and crash bars. not carbon wheel friendly terrain.

I don't use shops have my own machine . LD riding a bash plate is much better than the OEM plastic chin skirt. Bars saved 5K in additional damage. primary for low speed drop or fall over.

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Good quality frame sliders are designed to break if they dig into the ground to protect the frame from break and bike flip, like R&G, Evotech, Aella and so on. My current setup is Aella frame sliders, axel sliders and R&G clutch and stator covers.
T-rex, Arashi are poor design/quality which can end your frame with crack or bend.

[sixpack577]

Yeah, the only I time I've look for cheap parts is frame sliders, lol, bolts that bend or break easily, and soft plastic.
I got a used B-King years ago, and it had Puig frame sliders already on it.
The throttle side stuck way out, and was a very solid part.
As heavy and top heavy as the B-king is, I knew if it fell over on that side something other than the slider was breaking.

[Bumblebee]

Yeah, the only I time I've look for cheap parts is frame sliders, lol, bolts that bend or break easily, and soft plastic.
I got a used B-King years ago, and it had Puig frame sliders already on it.
The throttle side stuck way out, and was a very solid part.
As heavy and top heavy as the B-king is, I knew if it fell over on that side something other than the slider was breaking.

If I crash mine, I'm going to jump on it and ride it like a surf board.......

[sixpack577]

If I crash mine, I'm going to jump on it and ride it like a surf board.......

I've done dirtbikes that way...it works when it works, lol