Can anyone help me

[CHUBY UP]

I was going to buy a ecu editor for my 2010 busa is it better to do that or buy a power commandor

[twotonevert]

If it were me, I would do the ecu editor. You have many more parameters you can configure with the ecu versus the pc.

[Dozerdriver]

Here is my opinion...if you are going to have it tuned and the tuner is able to tune through the ECU then go that route. If you are going to run a base map off a website then go with a PC3 or PC5. ECU tuning has to be done by a GOOD tuner...

[POWERHOUSE]

Here is my opinion...if you are going to have it tuned and the tuner is able to tune through the ECU then go that route. If you are going to run a base map off a website then go with a PC3 or PC5. ECU tuning has to be done by a GOOD tuner...

I agree that ECU tuning has to be done by a good tuner. It is also my opinion that a good tuner can tune better with a powercommander. The BEST tune would be a powercommander, and a good tuner using Tuning Link software. Yes, ECU editor has a lot of good features that can, and should be implemented. Fuel tuning is NOT one of them. Just because you can do it with ECU editor, doesn't mean its the best way to do it. I like to use ECU editor to disable ram air compensation prior to tuning with a powercommander. After the tune, I re-enable ram air. I also remove speed limitations, unify maps, raise rev limits, change the rev cut, etc., etc. . . . all good stuff, only possible with ECU editor.

It continues to amaze me that of all the people I have seen - so far - promoting ECU eidtor for fuel tuning, not one of them is a tuner, or has spent 2 minutes tuning on a dyno. They have no clue what is involved, or what effect different methods can have on a bike. Dyno tuning a motorcycle does NOT have to be brutal on the clutch, the tire, etc., and it does not have to take four hours or more - like ECU editor. I have over ten years experience tuning: PCIIs, PCIIIs, PCIIIUSBs, PCVs, Bazzaz, Microtech, Split Second, ECU editor, "fudge" paks, Cobra boxes, etc., etc. There is a lot of stuff out there, and IMO, a lot of it is junk. A better way would be to get a thread going where only legitimate tuners could respond to offer their opinions. That would be valuable, since my opinion is not the only one out there that counts.

[Ludicrous Speed]

I am not a tuner... But my experience leads me to the ECU editor rather than the Power Commander.

For one thing, the PC is a strap-on. It intercepts the factory signal and modifies it. That is what they used to do on the cars before they finally figured out how to crack the ECU and reflash them..... My power commander worked for about two years before crapping out. I hated it. Going to the track and if I wanted to spray, I had to DL another map from my laptop. Then when you are not spraying, it is running the rich map... ECU editor does away with that.

Ryan Schnitz has no qualms about using the ECU editor, and tuned my bike quite well with it. It took longer than the PC does to tune, but sometimes it takes longer to do something right.

I know that you have tons more experince dealing with this. I am willing to pay for that extra time on the dyno to not have the problems that I had with a power commander.

In the end, I guess it is to each his own

[stolen417]

no good tuner!??! really... what about Rudy Sanzottera or walter sprout....... both are amazing tuners and can do amazing things with ecu edit.. with that being said, ecu edit all the way

[fallenarch]

I think the way to go is to get both. Get a map with the PC and then adjust options with the editor.

[dadofthree]

First off with a 2010 : If you're not modifying the bike don't touch it. If you're doing minor mods don't touch it. The factory ECU with O2 sensor can handle small performance changes. If you're making a big change in performance I'd think ECU tuning or using a piggyback device to change the tune.

Not a tuner, but there's been a lot of work done on ECU editing and a lot of folks using it. My questions are how can a PC be better when it only has 4 outputs and the 2010 has eight injectors. You can only manipulate the primaries or secondaries not both. The bazzaz unit will handle all eight. It just seems like to me that tuning through the ECU would be better because you don't add anything to the bike, you're simply modding the programming to meet the changes you've made.

[Ludicrous Speed]

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the factory O2 just used for emissions and fuel mileage? I heard that it leans the mixture out at steady cruising speeds for mileage purposes?

[dadofthree]

Not sure but my point is the Gen II actually looks at the exhaust and makes changes based on it.