I must be obsolete...

[Bumblebee]

I was just at Home Depot getting something and there are pride banners all over and the staff are wearing pink pride shirts with rainbow Home Depot logos and such....

I said "you people should be wearing something to commemorate the biggest invasion and beginning of the end to WW2" they all just looked at me like I was the prize hog at the fair.....

"What would that be?" says one......I almost went into an uncontrolled rant but contained my utter disgust and went into instructional mode and explained what D-Day was and how it was important to even today..........and how there would be no such thing as pride if D-Day failed or didn't occur as the Nazi regime was hell-bent in eliminating such things...

I also said that we as a nation and the west are slowly losing our way and soon benchmark events such as D-Day will all of been forgotten and the sacrifices of those brave men and to some extent women will be for not....and although the actual beach landings happened tomorrow June 6th, there were thousands of paratroopers and gliders being prepared June 5th (today) to conduct air drops to assist in the beach assaults.


Unknown to me a couple other veterans were at the check out behind me and they started clapping......

One of the lot associates who got my propane wasn't wearing the pride stuff and when I asked him he said wearing that in his opinion is in poor taste as it creates division not inclusivity......he was a smart kid

I met one of the soldiers in this video.

[Red05]

You’re not obsolete. It’s just pride month. Big parade in town this weekend and there will be plenty of protesters there that agree with you. Just human nature to have an opinion one way or another. I tend to sympathize with both trains of thought as both have merit.
I find a lot of social issues to be this way.
Getting all worked up won’t change a thing.

[CBXRider]

Veterans Day here began in 1919. Granted it was just a day but all ‘holidays’ were a single day, even Washington and Lincoln’s birthday. D Day was made a day of observance not a holiday. Pride month is not a get a day off work holiday, it’s new and its goal beyond celebrating w/o cops shutting participants down in their celebrations, was designed to make people aware. Didja know that until fairly recently, gay clubs were raided by the police, bars closed down, participants jailed? Give em time, celebrations will die down.

As to D Day, what an undertaking by the Allies! The scheduling and planning that went into it!

There were many successes and failures that day. One very sad sight is in the actual footage of the landing. Not sure which beach and the scene is not just in a documentary but also in at least one commercial movie about the landing. It shows several soldiers running from the water and one poor soul, still running on wet sand just a few feet from the water’s edge gets hit and drops. All that prep in England, the delays, the training, crammed aboard transport ships, the trip across the channel in the dark, riding the crowded Higgins boats towards the beach and then just a few feet on the run out of the water and…..

A very sad day for those lost but a great day for our eventual success.

[Bumblebee]

In the video I provided, I met the second guy out with the ladder....he said there were very few from his regt left when they got to Holland.....there were also few replacements so units formed together to make up assault forces.

Right now I'm watching a good documentary on the History channel which has 14 stories from various people who where there including civilians and Germans....it's pretty interesting...

I recall years ago during at this time of year we were all standing around discussing D-Day and one of my guys spoke up and said "my grandfather was in Normandy, he was there waiting for your grandfathers" His grandfather was a German soldier and was very young...he said he rode around on a bicycle with messages and had a Panzerfaust strapped to it...he was eventually captured and eventually sent to Alberta where he stayed after the war.

[Bumblebee]

Veterans Day here began in 1919. Granted it was just a day but all ‘holidays’ were a single day, even Washington and Lincoln’s birthday. D Day was made a day of observance not a holiday. Pride month is not a get a day off work holiday, it’s new and its goal beyond celebrating w/o cops shutting participants down in their celebrations, was designed to make people aware. Didja know that until fairly recently, gay clubs were raided by the police, bars closed down, participants jailed? Give em time, celebrations will die down.

As to D Day, what an undertaking by the Allies! The scheduling and planning that went into it!

There were many successes and failures that day. One very sad sight is in the actual footage of the landing. Not sure which beach and the scene is not just in a documentary but also in at least one commercial movie about the landing. It shows several soldiers running from the water and one poor soul, still running on wet sand just a few feet from the water’s edge gets hit and drops. All that prep in England, the delays, the training, crammed aboard transport ships, the trip across the channel in the dark, riding the crowded Higgins boats towards the beach and then just a few feet on the run out of the water and…..

A very sad day for those lost but a great day for our eventual success.

I just watched that footage of the US soldiers coming ashore and a couple of them drop from being hit....

Just think of the movie crew taking that footage....

[Rojo]

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[Bumblebee]

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Well Red, what that video also doesn't depict is the omission of the Lord's prayer from our schools as the prayer was not all inclusive to all religions that attend the school......I don't get why pride is introduced into the school system at all, we need to keep religion and sexual preference and deviant desires out of the school system..

[jellyrug]

When I look at all the WWII vets at the 80 year D-Day anniversary, I can’t help but think those folks were part of the best generation the US ever had. Sad to see where we are today in comparison.

[Red05]

Well Red, what that video also doesn't depict is the omission of the Lord's prayer from our schools as the prayer was not all inclusive to all religions that attend the school......I don't get why pride is introduced into the school system at all, we need to keep religion and sexual preference and deviant desires out of the school system..

Pre seventh grade I'm inclined to agree, although right about 13 years old I believe kids are primed and ready for social studies that give them a chance for critical thinking and forming opinions of their own. I'm not going to assume I know what you mean by deviant desires; to me it's the temptation to enter into illegal activities and the consequences therein. To mention religion and sexual preference in the classroom is not same as preaching it; it's part of society and I believe deserves being brought up.

When I look at all the WWII vets at the 80 year D-Day anniversary, I can’t help but think those folks were part of the best generation the US ever had. Sad to see where we are today in comparison.

Indeed

[Bumblebee]

Pre seventh grade I'm inclined to agree, although right about 13 years old I believe kids are primed and ready for social studies that give them a chance for critical thinking and forming opinions of their own. I'm not going to assume I know what you mean by deviant desires; to me it's the temptation to enter into illegal activities and the consequences therein. To mention religion and sexual preference in the classroom is not same as preaching it; it's part of society and I believe deserves being brought up.


Indeed

Surrounding impressionable young minds with pride articles and having drag queens read to them in schools is wrong at any age.

The deviancy I'm referring to is allowing adult transgenders into schools to give seminars on the process to become transgender.....

These are impressionable minds and this sort of ideology is being forced upon them against the will of many (many) parents who often times are not informed of these activities in advance so they can take appropriate measures to shield their children. The school boards are the ones who are deviant in this case, not the person giving the seminars.

There is no way that children (of any age) need to be exposed to any sexual preferences other than acknowledgment in the same way as they shouldn't be exposed to violence via films and photographs as it too is part of society sadly and something they will most likely be exposed to in their future more than sexual preferences.

Religion, sex (other than biology) should not be part of school curriculum in a public school. Kids have enough problems without adding to them.

If a kid is identifying as homosexual, this needs to be accepted, not explained in detail.

It's high time the alphabet people become part of society and lose all the drama of living their lifestyle. If a person is part of this lifestyle, why does the entire world need to know or celebrate it?

[Red05]

It's high time the alphabet people become part of society and lose all the drama of living their lifestyle. If a person is part of this lifestyle, why does the entire world need to know or celebrate it?

Nobody expects the entire world to celebrate or even acknowledge the gay lifestyle and they are very much a part of society already. If they want to have parades to celebrate the fact that they are not persecuted as badly any longer, I have no problem with it and I'll raise a toast with them. You and the rest of the world are free to ignore it.
What gives anybody the right to designate what the gay community does with their free time and energy? If you for instance want to celebrate Canada competing in the Copa America Soccer Tournament for the first time this year, what gives anybody the right to stop you from doing so?
For what it's worth, I don't think transgender people in elaborate costumes reading to young kids is a great idea, not to put any negativity on the joy of loving and enjoying the company of children.

[Bumblebee]

Nobody expects the entire world to celebrate or even acknowledge the gay lifestyle and they are very much a part of society already. If they want to have parades to celebrate the fact that they are not persecuted as badly any longer, I have no problem with it and I'll raise a toast with them. You and the rest of the world are free to ignore it.
What gives anybody the right to designate what the gay community does with their free time and energy? If you for instance want to celebrate Canada competing in the Copa America Soccer Tournament for the first time this year, what gives anybody the right to stop you from doing so?
For what it's worth, I don't think transgender people in elaborate costumes reading to young kids is a great idea, not to put any negativity on the joy of loving and enjoying the company of children.

Exactly, they are part of society, time for them to blend in and not feel they have to stand out...

If they had any clue at all, they would know that by blending in, they become part of society and not unique....not being unique is a good thing especially since the haters of their lifestyle wouldn't be able to readily identify and persecute them in any way....

........and when the schools are putting on mini pride parades in their hallways, this is forcing an ideology on impressionable minds....what about the rights of people who don't agree with this lifestyle.....why are these being trampled in the name of inclusivity.....this is a sexual preference, not a religion, ethnicity or race.....

[Red05]

Exactly, they are part of society, time for them to blend in and not feel they have to stand out...

If you celebrate something good in your or loved ones lives, are you attempting to stand out or are you expressing your happiness?

Gay people have as much a clue as anyone. There is no correlation of intelligence between gay and straight people.

why are these being trampled in the name of inclusivity.....

Rights being trampled because people are happy or celebrating? How exactly? From what I know of you, you're serious. All that resentment of something that isn't going away isn't going to do you much good.

[Gen3lover]

Let's remember that what is important us older folks is NOT important to those who are younger. Most under 40 (and the millions of arrivals from foreign countries) don't know or care about D-Day. Just like they don't care about other things that were significant to us - the Beatles, the Vietnam War, the time before computers and cell phones, social responsibility, etc.

Every generation goes through this. When I was 20 I was convinced my parents were old fashioned and out of step. Didn't we all?

[jellyrug]

If you celebrate something good in your or loved ones lives, are you attempting to stand out or are you expressing your happiness?

Gay people have as much a clue as anyone. There is no correlation of intelligence between gay and straight people.


Rights being trampled because people are happy or celebrating? How exactly? From what I know of you, you're serious. All that resentment of something that isn't going away isn't going to do you much good.

All I have to say about the above is I am really pleased about the fact that I think women are pretty and all men are fugly. I can add to that the gratitude for my kids never being exposed to that until they were educated and mature enough to decide for themselves. Their decisions followed normal conventional wisdom.

[Bumblebee]

If you celebrate something good in your or loved ones lives, are you attempting to stand out or are you expressing your happiness?

Gay people have as much a clue as anyone. There is no correlation of intelligence between gay and straight people.


Rights being trampled because people are happy or celebrating? How exactly? From what I know of you, you're serious. All that resentment of something that isn't going away isn't going to do you much good.

When I celebrate my birthday, anniversary or something similar, I don't project this to the community at large...it is something personal. The gay "community" is a very small percentage of our population yet demand their lifestyle be celebrated by everyone.

You are being literal.....I was not referring to intelligence but rather common sense-something which is sorely lacking these days.

Rights...exactly....the rights of others not wanting or wishing to celebrate this lifestyle are being trampled when this is forced into the school system....people who send their children to school for an education, not to be exposed to a specific lifestyle. I don't agree with the alphabet people encroaching into the school system where impressionable children are a captive audience.

If the school system is to educate young people on the presence of gay and other people in our society, that's one thing and it should be taught to older children in the form of a clinical style class-maybe in health class or biology....this is where this belongs....not in the hallways or cafeteria.

It has been my experience that groups pushing their agenda or striving for special uniqueness attract those who oppose this like moths to a flame....these same groups will then protest when this happens not realizing they were the catalyst to it happening in the first place.

Here in Canada, homosexuals have the exact same rights as heterosexuals so the need for them to seek unique status is moot and no longer necessary. We have a gay couple who live in our neighborhood and they go about their lives int he same manner as everyone else and don't draw any attention to themselves...even if someone was very much anti-LGBTQ, they wouldn't have a clue about the lifestyle these two are living.

In essence this couple has found a way to blend into society and not be a spectacle within it.

[Bumblebee]

Let's remember that what is important us older folks is NOT important to those who are younger. Most under 40 (and the millions of arrivals from foreign countries) don't know or care about D-Day. Just like they don't care about other things that were significant to us - the Beatles, the Vietnam War, the time before computers and cell phones, social responsibility, etc.

Every generation goes through this. When I was 20 I was convinced my parents were old fashioned and out of step. Didn't we all?

Significant events in history must be made important and remembered.....it's the lack of conviction by people which allow these events to fade into the darkness.....

When events are allowed to overshadow significant historical events, that's where the problem lies.

We may have thought our parents were obsolete and out of date but there is a time in our lives when we realize they were right about many things....and my kids now see that as well.....

[Gen3lover]

But see that’s the thing, a “significant event in history “ to you and me is not significant to others.
The majority of people alive today feel no connection to D- Day.
It also doesn’t mean anything to people in a lot of other countries , millions of whom have immigrated here in the last few years.

[CBXRider]

It’s 95 outside so I’m staying inside and watching a lot of WW2 shows on tv. From D Day to Berlin. The hardships endured…kind of a somber day.

[Red05]

Rights...exactly....the rights of others not wanting or wishing to celebrate this lifestyle are being trampled when this is forced into the school system....people who send their children to school for an education, not to be exposed to a specific lifestyle. I don't agree with the alphabet people encroaching into the school system where impressionable children are a captive audience.

I don’t believe that bringing up these specific social studies deprive children of the education they so deserve and need. All of the other studies are addressed.
Yes I’m a very literal person.
We will never agree. Discussing it can still be a positive.