'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California

[Robot]

WTF???

'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California

[Dino]

take time to read the whole article. No one is banning the words. The article is a rant and not based on any occurance.
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[captain]

take time to read the whole article. No one is banning the words. The article is a rant and not based on any occurance.
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But it will be.... Someones little boy will want to squat and pee with the girls.... Is that how you would want your daughter at the age of 5 to experince this? What about in high school when some guy pulls his pecker out and pees right in front of your little girl.

By offering up in schools to our kids that you can have two mom's or two dads that means that it's Okay to be that way because the teacher (whom should be a figure of authority) taught me how to add and subtract and how to spell so she has to right. Now the parents at home are on the defensive trying to explain why the teacher is only right some of the time...

Just more California BS

I don't let my 7yr old cross the street much less choose if he wants to be a boy or girl.....


Cap

[Robot]

But it will be.... Someones little boy will want to squat and pee with the girls.... Is that how you would want your daughter at the age of 5 to experince this? What about in high school when some guy pulls his pecker out and pees right in front of your little girl.

By offering up in schools to our kids that you can have two mom's or two dads that means that it's Okay to be that way because the teacher (whom should be a figure of authority) taught me how to add and subtract and how to spell so she has to right. Now the parents at home are on the defensive trying to explain why the teacher is only right some of the time...

Just more California BS

I don't let my 7yr old cross the street much less choose if he wants to be a boy or girl.....


Cap

Amen Brother

[VaBusa]

I'll admit, I didn't read the article...I saw signs of some bias and in media, whomever is writing or reporting the piece tends to put their spin on it...that's just a fact...

OK, so I'll go out on a limb here and say that what YOU and your family do in the privacy of your OWN HOME should not have bearing on me and my family, so long as people aren't being hurt (i.e. it would never be OK to abuse children in any way...gotta close that loophole). But, having said that, when you expect everyone around you to EMBRACE everything about you, your beliefs, your culture, your practices, that's one step beyond just "acceptance and tolerance", that's when we're all forced to step outside of our comfort zones and in all honestly, why should we? I'm not forcing my life on others, so why should others be allowed to force theirs on me?

It's pretty simple...live your life as you wish, not hurting others if possible...don't expect everyone to pander to your differences just because you want it to be PC...

[Dino]

cap,

Your last statment was that you don't let you kid do things that you deem fit. So what are you worried about?
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[Dino]

the words were NOT banned. That title is misleading.
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[Robot]

the words were NOT banned. That title is misleading.
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Quote: ""Having 'mom' and 'dad' promotes a discriminatory bias"

[Dino]

Quote: ""Having 'mom' and 'dad' promotes a discriminatory bias"

You are quoting the author not the legislaiton. I could easily argue the opposite.
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[wharthog3]

The article is from October 2007. Has anyone heard of something coming of this "law" after its passing?

If we looked at this issue in another context I can't see it making sense. Lets say, to keep it simple, there are TWO types of music POPular, and Alternative (to popular). If I like listening to alternative music and I went to a place that was playing POP I wouldn't demand that they also play my alternative at this function or face legal action. If I want to listen to alternative I would go to a concert featuring that music, and if someone who liked POP didn't like that music, they don't have to attend.

I can't see why "acceptance" is getting confused with "tolerance" or with forced integration.

I have my own personal beliefs on moral issues but don't think everyone has to follow what I believe, and I have friends that believe differently than me, but we're still friends.

I've been out at a "gay" bar with friends and wasn't uncomfortable. Why would I be? I just think people should RESPECT others more. If someone oversteps their bounds, gay or straight, to FORCE opinions onto the other, then the respect is lost in that situation.

[captain]

cap,

Your last statment was that you don't let you kid do things that you deem fit. So what are you worried about?
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The problem is that I wouldn't be there to guide him.... I leave my child in the hands of the school and teachers with an understanding that they are to take care of him.... In the legislation the school would not be able to stop him if he chose to go into the girls bathroom. I would expect the same thing to happen if I left my son on the sidewalk and told him to find home. At 7 he doesnt really grasp the consequences of getting hit by a car. So to alleviate that situation where I know he just doesn't have the ability to deal with those decisions I hold his hand and make sure that I stay with him when we walk down the street.

In my absence at school he would be leaning on what he knows at the age of 7 and what he sees the other kids doing. The very teachers that I have left him with would not be in a situation where they could not keep him from making a bad decision.

You must be ok with your kid doing what they want! Sometimes what they want isn't whats best for them..

Cap

[Robot]

I just speed read the law, as well as, many conflicting opinions on it's interpretation, one person said:

"The new law means that a student’s sex is no longer determined by genetic make up but rather as his or her “gender identity." In other words, in California, you are no longer a boy or girl based on how the genes were doled out and expressed at birth but rather what you feel about yourself. So if you feel you're a boy but you are a girl by birth, according to law, you are now a boy."

Others said this is not true, just wait until someone pushes the "meaning" in court

[SANDFLEA85]

wow,my 3yr old son has a kid in his class that has 2 moms,its kind of awkward,I was at a halloween party they had at school for the kids and I honestly had to say I felt bad for the kid,everyone else had mom and dad there,this kid is gonna endure lots of cruelity from other kids growing up,its one thing adults want to live with the same sex,I dont have a problem with that but when you drag an innocent kid into the mix,thats where I drw the line,it just isnt natural,accepted or not.

[Revlis]

Scary for some I guess...

[dmrowe]

WTF???

'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California

This legislation is way over due, I wish they had passed it back in the 60's when I was in jr. high and high school. I always wanted to use the girls looker...I mean locker room!!!

[Wag]

Start home schooling your kids, folks.

It's reprehensible just how much the gub'mint has poked it's massive head into our personal lives. Frankly, I feel for parents from the bottom of my heart.

--Wag--

[outtahand]

Sheesh.

I just want to know, does the law also prohibit young gay guys from referring to their older lovers as "dads"?

Hopefully the court will get the chance to hash this out so it makes better sense.
I just don't see how that's possible...

[Mr Bogus]

Isnt this just typical of how things evolve into other things that are irrevocably damaging to a society..

Slight erosion here and there of what the "norm" is considered.. As that slight deviation is accepted, further cuts into the moral fiber are then indulged.. Simple case in point is our movie ratings system as well as what is accpetable on TV, listen to the dialog.. If I was raising a young child today? there would be no "unsupervised" tv in the home.. You could not put a typical "tv show" on the air that we have today 20 years ago..

SJ, you represent what is wrong with much of society IMHO.. You will allow the small incurrsions into what any normal parent would consider inappropriate and call it something like politically correct... it is sad and sickening.. I am guessing it was your upbringing.. Or could be you lack any moral fortitude and allow yourself to be brainwashed into what ever the "cause of the day" is...

Used to be a time when I cared about people getting killed on the streets.. Having lived in the big city for as many years as I did, I decided that the murders were ok in a strange way.. Sort of like a self cleaning oven..

The bad guys are killing other bad guys.. An occassional good guy gets caught in the crossfire every now and then and that is sad but for the most part? scum bags are killing other scumbags over drugs, turf or gang violence... knock yourselves out.. I no longer have the energy to care if some gang kid kills another gang kid (as long as it is not in my neighborhood) Let the ghetto rats wipe theselves out.. I blame it on their parents myself (or lack thereof)

[WWJD]

when you expect everyone around you to embrace everything about you, your beliefs, your culture, your practices, that's one step beyond just "acceptance and tolerance", that's when we're all forced to step outside of our comfort zones and in all honestly, why should we? I'm not forcing my life on others, so why should others be allowed to force theirs on me?

word!

[WWJD]

anyone hear GAY restrooms are next? used to be:
MEN & WOMEN

now it will be:
Men, Woman, Family, Children, Gay males, Gay Females, Bisexual, pedophiles, Priests, Nuns, Hermaphrodites, Vasectomys, Historectomies, Christians, Satanists, Buddahs, Muslim, Catholic restrooms.... and WHO is going to pay for all those?

Folks, isn't it getting a little out of hand? We are not being real.